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July 23, 2010 5:42:17 PM

So Im finally thinking of upgrading from my 3 year old am2 build, and I just want some opinions or suggestions in any areas that could be improved, tweaked, not worth it, better parts for the price etc etc.

The only question i really have is that should i be taking advantage of sata 6gb/s, especially cause i dont have enough money for ssd (with shipping and tax this build is JUST over 1500)

I know the F3's are the best 3gb/s tb drives, but what about the Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
it's slighly more pricey, but i dont mind if the transfer speeds are much better. i can't seem to find any clear cut reviews, only some that have said 6gb/s is not noticeable over 3gb/s drives (but those were with pci-e cards, not integrated into the mobo like they are now)

also, if i plan on adding a spare 9800 gt for folding only, and possibly another fermi card later, would 750W be enough on the psu? 650W would definetly be out of the question right...

Much appreciated! =D So here goes:



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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 2 weeks to a month, once i get more paid =p

BUDGET RANGE: sub $1500 after rebates and whatnot, before tax and shipping.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: folding (on idle time), recreational avchd editing with cs5 (not too heavy, just want a smooth editing experience, decent encode and render times), light photoshopping, light gaming, everyday use multitasking.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.ca, any local retail stores that might be cheaper

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada

PARTS PREFERENCES: i7 build with fermi

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, plan to OC the 930 to 4ghz, oc vid cards.

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Possibly later, only for more folding though, not for gaming

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Heres the visual of my build, makes it easier so i dont have to type everything, will still provide links though



-Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
-SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
-CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ...
-GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
-Scythe SY1225SL12M 120mm "Slipstream" Case Fan
-LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
-GIGABYTE GV-N465UD-1GI GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
-G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI
-Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
-Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler


Thanks guys!!
July 23, 2010 5:59:48 PM

Looking very good!
snoshy said:
WD ... 6gb/s is not noticeable over 3gb/s drives

also, if i plan on adding a spare 9800 gt for folding only, and possibly another fermi card later, would 750W be enough on the psu? 650W would definetly be out of the question right...
Correct. HDDs are not yet able to saturate the 3GB/s SATA ports. No advantage in paying extra for something not used. And the Seagate 7200.12 and Samsung F3 still lead in overall performance.

2x GTX 465's plus a 9800GT? or will the 2nd GTX 465 replace the 9800GT? Either way I think 750W for sure.
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July 23, 2010 6:02:25 PM

Don't get a GTX 465. It's the same performance as a 1gb GTX 460 for more money.
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July 23, 2010 6:02:53 PM

WR2 said:
Looking very good!
Correct. HDDs are not yet able to saturate the 3GB/s SATA ports. No advantage in paying extra for something not used. And the Seagate 7200.12 and Samsung F3 still lead in overall performance.

2x GTX 465's plus a 9800GT? or will the 2nd GTX 465 replace the 9800GT? Either way I think 750W for sure.


why do they have 6gb/s drives then =/

I think i'll probably keep the 9800 gt in there just to fold, unless it generates too much heat. then i might move it to another computer.
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July 23, 2010 6:05:06 PM

banthracis said:
Don't get a GTX 465. It's the same performance as a 1gb GTX 460 for more money.


well the 465 has more cuda cores which is more useful for folding, rendering and encoding.

the only thing im worrying about is the heat. 460 runs cooler and possibly quiter?
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July 23, 2010 6:17:24 PM

snoshy said:
why do they have 6gb/s drives then =/


Marketing.

The only mechanical hard drives that can burst above SATA 3 Gb/s are the new Velociraptors, and only very very briefly...not enough to make it worthwhile.

Most SSDs don't saturate SATA 3 Gb/s yet, either...the only one that I'm aware of that does is the Crucial C300.
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July 23, 2010 6:22:53 PM

snoshy said:
why do they have 6gb/s drives then =/


Ah, my good sir, you have been victimized by the adulteration of technical specifications brought on by lascivious scum pining for money.

In other words: dem marketers almost got ya!

Yes it is technically true (maybe) that the cabling they use and the ports they have all support up to that transfer speed.
Leaving out the fact that the drives do not move at that speed is just good business!

edit: bah, coldsleep punched me to the beat.
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July 23, 2010 6:30:56 PM

snoshy said:
well the 465 has more cuda cores which is more useful for folding, rendering and encoding.
the only thing im worrying about is the heat. 460 runs cooler and possibly quiter?
Not that many more Cuda cores.
460 = 336 vs 465 = 352. The only reason I didn't wave the red flag on the 465 is the deep price cuts lately.
460 uses less power by a nice margin and not much difference when it comes to which is quieter. HIS has a reputation for being a tad quieter, but not so much as you'd actually notice the difference.
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July 23, 2010 6:36:59 PM

Temp/Power/Noise comparisons of GTX 460/465 and other contenders here
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July 23, 2010 6:41:31 PM

oh dang they got me all excited too.

well thanks guys for the quick replys =D


can anyone suggest a good GTX 460, preferably quiet and cool, wiht good cooler (oc'd doesnt really matter, as i was planning to oc myself anyways)

would it be better to buy just a cheap GTX 460 , like this one Palit NE5X460SF1102 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Sonic 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card]and just adding an aftermarket cooler.

or somethign like GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card because it has two fans and looks liek it could run cool, thus saving me the hassle of buying an aftermarket cooler and setting it up and all.
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