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Need suggestions on $1400 Gaming Build

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July 24, 2010 5:56:42 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within hours

BUDGET RANGE: USD $1400 before shipping

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Games > Movies > School

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Everything including a monitor is needed

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States

PARTS PREFERENCES: Don't have a particular preference of brand

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Need new monitor

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Would like a PC that would satisfy my gaming and multimedia urges for a while. Plan on dual monitor in the future.


- This is the current build I have put together in my newegg shopping cart:

CPU & MOBO Combo: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750 and ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
= $359.99 after rebate

GPU & PSU Combo: XFX HD-587X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card and XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular
= $459.98 (seems to also come with a free KWORLD Digital Media Player M101)

RAM: G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO
= $104.99

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
= $74.99

HSF: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long
= $49.99

Case: HAF 922
= $89.98

Monitor: ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor
= $189.99

SUBTOTAL: $1,353.90 before shipping&tax
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I have about a $50 breathing room from the current subtotal.

Is everything compatible with this list? Anything missing?

I am unsure about the HSF, Motherboard, and Monitor I have chosen... any recommendations?

Should I go with Arctic Silver 5 for thermal paste?

How vital is a static wrist band?

I am ready to purchase this right after I hear from any suggestions you all might have. I greatly appreciate any input. Thank you.

~Hideo Tamaru
July 24, 2010 6:00:56 AM

great, great, great build. i may be able to improve on it, but just wondering, are you willing to do AMD?
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July 24, 2010 6:03:52 AM

Newegg has jacked up the price of the 212, as someone told me in another thread. TigerDirect has it for cheaper and for a lower shipping cost.

I don't know about the parts, but I can answer the technical questions -

Arctic Silver is very good for its price, and provided you don't OC too extremely, should be sufficient. If you're worried, you can likely spend a bit more on a different compound type (some people prefer ceramic over silver, etc.)

An anti-static wrist band isn't NECESSARY, but it's nice. Otherwise, you need to discharge static by touching a metal part on/in your case every once in a while, make sure you're working on a hard floor and sitting on a hard surface, and if you DO have carpeting and/or you're sitting on a padded chair, just don't fidget too much and keep discharging yourself.
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July 24, 2010 6:08:13 AM

Thanks for quick responses.

ares, Happy to hear your approval. I have my heart set on Intel, but then again I haven't given AMD a chance either. Could I end up saving a significant amount without sacrificing much performance going an AMD route?

WannaTurnUpTheHeat, thanks for the advice. I don't plan on overclocking much if at all till later on, so I might just go ahead and stick with the Arctic Silver 5 then.
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July 24, 2010 6:20:37 AM

AMD is an interesting proposition. in performance, yes they lose. but an AM3 build will be cheaper, cooler, use less energy, and have an upgrade path. on 1156, once you buy that cpu, you will have to buy a new motherboard the next time you want a new cpu. with am3, there are a lot of new CPU's coming out on it, so you can save a lot of money by keeping the existing ram and mobo. also, AMD motherboards are generally better than 1156 ones for the price. I, personally, have an amd x4 955 cpu, and im pretty sure the highest i have ever seen its usage go MIGHT be 50%. and i do some SERIOUS multitasking and everything you listed. Will the i5 750 be faster, yes, will it be a large difference, no, will you notice it in what you listed, NOPE. so basically the questions to ask yourself for amd are:

1. will i upgrade this without buying a whole new computer

2. do i not overclock (the 750 can oc higher than the 955, but both oc extremely well)

3. do i want a cheaper build, or make the cpu cheaper so i can put more into other parts

4. do i care about heat, energy consumption, multiple video card setups, and better motherboards.
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July 27, 2010 4:31:33 AM

ares, Sorry for late reply, but sounds very tempting. So would I have to switch out the mobo, cpu,and ram for an am3 build? About how much money could I save potentially? Could you give me a recommendation on those parts?

Thank you much for all the input.
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July 27, 2010 4:41:03 AM

On average, you'll save between $75-100 with an eqivalent AMD build. Gaming performance loss is negligible, except in a couple of specific games.

AMD Phenom II X4 955 + MSI 890GXM-G65 for $260. 8x/8x like the 1156 motherboard (not an issue unless you plan to CrossFire 2x 5970), USB 3.0, SATA 6.0 Gb/s.

955 + MSI 890FXA-GD70 for $330 (and an additional $20 MIR if you're into that) - FX chipset for CrossFire at 16x/16x, USB 3.0, SATA 6 Gb/s, etc. Flagship-ish motherboard, more features.

Lots of MSI deals right now.

Or just straight up:
Phenom II X4 955 - $160
option of:
Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H - $140 - 8x/8x, USB 3.0, SATA 6 Gb/s -- $300 total -- same/similar features as the Intel build.
ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 - $185 - FX chipset, etc. -- $345 total -- little savings, more features
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July 27, 2010 4:45:13 AM

Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106289
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

 
$17.99
1

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148395
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$5.00 Instant

 
$59.99
$54.99
1

MSI 870A-G54 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813130275
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate

 
$99.99
1

XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular ...
Item #: N82E16817207003
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$40.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate

 
$159.99
$119.99
1

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7S-4GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231307
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy

 
$99.99
1

XFX HD-587X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814150490
Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX
Item #: N82E16819103851
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$30.00 Instant
-$35.00 Combo

 
$609.98
$544.98
1

KWORLD Digital Media Player M101, RMVB support
Item #: N82E16815260025
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
-$60.00 Instant
-$39.99 Saving

 
$99.99
$0.00
1

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116754
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
NZXT Alpha Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Open Window
Item #: N82E16811146041
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
-$10.00 Combo

 
$169.98
$149.98
Subtotal: $1,087.91 + monitor ($189.99)= $1277.90

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July 27, 2010 1:17:47 PM

Hideo said:
ares, Sorry for late reply, but sounds very tempting. So would I have to switch out the mobo, cpu,and ram for an am3 build? About how much money could I save potentially? Could you give me a recommendation on those parts?

Thank you much for all the input.


if you have dual channel ddr3 RAM, you can keep it, and yes, you would need a new mobo and cpu, but thats a given.
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