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July 24, 2010 9:30:52 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Not sure.. hopefully next month

BUDGET RANGE: 2200-2300$ at MOST 2400... if need be

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming and web browsing, Movie watching

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor , mouse and keyboard

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Only newegg Please unless there is a REALLY good deal on another website

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada ( but have Us office so am purchasing of newegg )

PARTS PREFERENCES: Asus Mother board perferably, Intel cpu i7 ( probably 930 ) Asus gpu? ( 5970 ) Mushkin ram preferably unless theres better then obviously suggest .. windows 7 proffesional

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: For preffered parts Ill obviously make some exceptions if the selected alternative is a better deal or is more powerful for relatively the same cost

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July 24, 2010 11:15:00 AM

Here is a rough sketch.

win7: 120

case that you like: 100-200 Do you like aggresive case like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or are you more a fan of clean cases like this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu: 930: 300

mobo: ud3r(unless you prefer a more feature rich board like me): 210

ram: mushkin 6gb 998805: 200

psu: a corsair hx or a silverstone is what I reccomend I can't give a specific one yet as that depends on your gpu.

storage: spinpoint F3s for storage and SSDs(corsair, intel or OCZ mostly) for boot(sizes depend on you needs): 300-500

cpu cooler: noctua d14, titan fenrir or a scythe mugen 2. Hyper 212+ is good aswell but too expensive on newegg. A watercooling setup isn't absurd in this price categorie but it's a lot of work and expensive. What do you think?

Then the GPU: I wouldn't get a 5970 as it's hotter and marginally slower than the far cheaper 5850 crossfire. So the main question is will you add more cards later to upgrade or do you prefer just replacing?

So answer those questions and I'll go from there
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July 24, 2010 12:10:00 PM

here is a best performance for the money build build for $2,016.89

mobo&cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... (gigabyte and asus are top notch quality)

gpu&os: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... (sapphire is the best manufacturer for ati cards)

ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (intel has the best quality ssd's)

hsf: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (this hsf is a great preformer for the money)

ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (this g.skill pi is a high uality kit some people maneged to set it at cl6)

psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (better than corsair's tx's and sometimes better than hx's )

hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (reliable &fast)

case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (can fit any card on the planet and can cool it also it's as big as a fulltower)

odd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 24, 2010 12:16:20 PM
July 24, 2010 12:27:54 PM

+1 for the mrhoshos96's PSU suggestion since mine is not compatible with the case.
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July 24, 2010 12:57:32 PM

CPU: Intel Core i7-930 - $483.99 with mobo
Very fast already and can be overclocked even further.

CPU Cooler: Zalman Performa - $49.99
Will allow you to overclock your CPU a fair bit.

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R - $483.99 with CPU
Great board, supports 24GB of high speed RAM and dual x16 graphics cards.

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 3x2GB 2000MHz - $174.99
Very high speed, 6GB is plenty for now.

Graphics Card: Sapphire HD 5970 2GB - $769.98 with OS
Fastest card on the planet, can add another one in Crossfire later on.

Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $74.99
Fast, spacious drive.

Solid-State Drive: Western Digital 128GB - $199.99
Enough space on here for the OS and a lot of frequently used programs/files/games to speed up loading times.

Optical Drive: Lite-On 24x DVD RW - $17.99
Cheap, does the job.

Power Supply: XFX Black Edition 850W - $149.99
Enough power and connections for your system, won't have to worry about anything with this.

Case: Coolermaster HAF 922 - $89.98
Great case; looks good and cools very well, spacious too.

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - $769.98 with GPU
Same old really.

Total: $2011.89 - you've got a bit of room left over if you want to upgrade one or two things :) 
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July 24, 2010 1:24:33 PM

the intel x-25m is a much better quality ssd and will live longer and faster

also the ram has much slower timings
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July 24, 2010 2:04:23 PM

I always prefer to go for higher speed RAM at the expense of the timings but it probably won't make much of a difference either way. Not sure about the SSD but WD has always been known for making quality products. Maybe it won't be as fast but I beg to differ on it not lasting as long.
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July 24, 2010 10:04:29 PM

Thank you for all the suggestions everyone, I will take this into serious consideration.. keep posting suggestions!
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July 25, 2010 4:05:46 AM

I just built my computer. I installed the Asus P6X58D Premium board with an i7 930 with Corsair Dominator 1600 memory and a Corsair 750 wat PSU. I went by the best ratings on Newegg.

A couple of things to consider...

I have read that Windows 7 Home Premium only supports 16 gigs of memory, If you want to install up to 24 gigs in the future, you'll need to upgrade to Windows 7 Pro 64 or Ultimate 64. I would suggest installing Windows 7 Pro 64 when you build the computer if you plan to max out the memory. Buy the builder's kit, it's cheaper than the retail box because it only has one disc (either 32 bit or 64 bit) whereas the retail box contains both discs. You probably already know that the Windows 32 bit operating system only supports up to 3 gigs of memory.

If you use the Asus Motherboard and overclock the memory at 1600, the Asus manual states the following...

"To obtain the best performance of the X.M.P. DIMM or 1600MHz DIMM, install only one DIMM on each memory Channel"
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July 25, 2010 6:01:04 AM

@Dan__ I am aware I would not purchase Premium and would get Proffesional to begin with and yes I know to buy the OEM version not retail.

Also here is the build Ive been contemplating on my own research prior to this post.

HDD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
_digital_1tb_black-_-22-136-533-_-Product

Western Digital Black caviar 1tb 64mb Cache 7200rpm

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
11-119-160-_-Product

Gamer haf932 Full Tower Case

Gpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD Radeon 5970 2gb Asus

Cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
19-115-225-_-Product

Intel core i7 930 @ 2.8ghz lg1366

Psu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair Cmpsu 850tx 80+ Silver certified

Mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-_-13-131-614-_-Product

Asus P6X58D Premium lga 1366

RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-_-20-226-124-_-Product

Mushkin Enhanced Ridgeback 6b 1600 Cas 6 ddr3

HS&fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Zalman CNPS10x Performa 120mm Cpu heatsink and Fan

OS - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
proffesional-_-32-116-756-_-Product

Windows 7 Proffesional

OD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Lite-on Black 17.99$


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July 25, 2010 11:04:35 AM

hold on there buddy

the 1tb black isn't worth the money it's noisy not as fast as the f3 1tb and it isn't that eficcient just becuase it's sata 6gps doesn't mean it's going to be faster the only drive that can use the 6gps is the new ocz vertex 2 pro or the crucial real ssd.


the haf 922 is almost the size of the 932 and the 922 is almost equal in cooling also the 922 has dust filters.

for the 5970 get the sapphire they have great customer support and have the highest quality.

that mobo isn't worth the $100 difference between it and the x58a ud36 or the p6x58d-e see for your self http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|13-128-423^13-128-423-TS%2C13-131-641^13-131-641-TS%2C13-131-614^13-131-614-TS the only difference i can see is the premium has another lanport

for the ram get these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... they are lower voltage the same speed and timings and they r cheaper
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Anonymous
July 25, 2010 12:52:21 PM

+1 on all that.
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July 25, 2010 2:25:39 PM

I installed the Samsung F1 1T after reading negative comments about the Winchester Sata 6 1T at Newegg. If I could do it over, I would have gone with a 1.5T or 2.0T drive because Windows 7 allocates about 100 meg just for the operating system.

Btw, if you go with the Asus P6X58D Premium, you will receive an error message if you don't install a Sata 6 hard drive. The error message will state 'Hard Disc Not Detected'. Simply ignore the message. You can disable the Marvell Sata 6 connectors in the Bios later. The message appears everytime you start up the computer.

As you know, the Intel CPU comes with a stock fan. You might want to check out the cooler below if you plan to overclock...

CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 25, 2010 2:36:16 PM

Dan__ said:
I installed the Samsung F1 1T after reading negative comments about the Winchester Sata 6 1T at Newegg. If I could do it over, I would have gone with a 1.5T or 2.0T drive because Windows 7 allocates about 100 meg just for the operating system.

Btw, if you go with the Asus P6X58D Premium, you will receive an error message if you don't install a Sata 6 hard drive. The error message will state 'Hard Disc Not Detected'. Simply ignore the message. You can disable the Marvell Sata 6 connectors in the Bios later. The message appears everytime you start up the computer.

As you know, the Intel CPU comes with a stock fan. You might want to check out the cooler below if you plan to overclock...

CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


dan windows 7 allocates 16gb

and as i stated earlier the premium isn,t worth the money

also the corsair h50 sucks and it blocks of one expansion slot on the case
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3199/zalman_cnps10x_pe...
u can see that the cnps10x is a better preformer than the coolit eco which preforms better than the h50

the cnps10x preforma is $49 the h50 is $79 and the cnps preforms a hell lot better which would you buy???
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July 25, 2010 2:57:54 PM

mrhoshos96 said:
dan windows 7 allocates 16gb

and as i stated earlier the premium isn,t worth the money

also the corsair h50 sucks and it blocks of one expansion slot on the case
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3199/zalman_cnps10x_pe...
u can see that the cnps10x is a better preformer than the coolit eco which preforms better than the h50

the cnps10x preforma is $49 the h50 is $79 and the cnps preforms a hell lot better which would you buy???



When I set up my computer, Windows 7 Home Premium immediately allocated 100 gigs leaving me with roughly 890 gigs.

I found other people having the same problem...

Lost 140 GB when Windows 7 was installed

http://forums.techarena.in/operating-systems/1276492.ht...


System filling up hard drive, taking up 100 GB of space

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7perf...

Someone on the link above states the huge size is for recovery purposes


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July 25, 2010 3:01:25 PM

if u just install windows correctly on a new formatted hdd windowes home will only allocate 16gb
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July 25, 2010 3:07:08 PM

The Corsair CH50 CPU Cooler does not use an expansion slot, it uses a 120mm Fan opening. I did not see the Corsair on the chart link you posted above
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July 25, 2010 3:11:21 PM

Dan__ said:
The Corsair CH50 CPU Cooler does not use an expansion slot, it uses a 120mm Fan opening. I did not see the Corsair on the chart link you posted above


i know i am saying that it will block of an expansion slot and the chart has the coolit eco which is better than the h50 and sometimes equal in performance

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1260/5/

here u can see that the preforma beats the h50
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July 29, 2010 7:55:58 AM

Alright Ive decided on the samsung spinpoint f3 1tb ( maybe 500gb if its faster? ) and as for the ram I think Im still going to go with the enhanced ridgeback out of stubbernous ;) 
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July 30, 2010 10:09:05 AM

Alright 1tb it is then, and hmm.... your probably right.. alright Ill get the G.skill Ram .. thanks alot mrhoshos :) 
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July 30, 2010 10:14:14 AM

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD7 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Model #:GA-X58A-UD7
$349.99 -$10.00 Instant $339.99
. .
Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
Model #:BX80601930
$289.99
. .
Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
Model #:NH-D14
$89.99
. .
2 X EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ...
Model #:01G-P3-1373-AR
$249.99 $499.98
. .
Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998805
Model #:998805
$199.99
. .
Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Model #:CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1
$349.00 -$85.00 Instant $264.00
. .
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD1002FAEX
$94.99
. .
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Model #: DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
$23.99
. .
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Model #:RC-942-KKN1
$199.99 $199.99
. .
COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AR-GP 200mm Red LED Case Fan
Model #:R4-LUS-07AR-GP
$21.80
. .
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:CMPSU-850HX
$189.99 -$20.00 Instant $169.99
. .

Subtotal: $2,194.70

I actually just posted this same-ish- question a minute ago: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/291388-31-gaming-buil...
guess I can use this thread for my choices as well!
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July 30, 2010 11:21:41 AM

@3nn10
the x58a ud 7 isn't worth it unless u r watercooling
2 gtx 460's will ruin the upgrade path
the mushkins aren't worth it either
the f3 1tb is just as fast as the black and it's cheaper
the haf 922 can do the job of the haf x
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July 30, 2010 11:42:26 AM

mmm

the ud7 has amazing heatsinks though. Overkill but amazing nonetheless.

Yes they will but they are the best bang for buck on the market comparable to the much much more expensive, louder and hotter 5970.

Mushkins are fast and low profile and are one of the few ram sticks that fit under a d14. their speed may not make a large difference in day to day performance but they are fast and can be OC'd nicely. Mine run at cl6 1600 at 1.5v.

F3s are more than 10percent slower in day to day performance making loading and booting slower by aound the same amount. In long copying operation of very large files the f3 will be slightly faster though. In conclusion they are both worth their money.

true but the 922 is ugly as hell. Has steel interior which pretty much speaks for itself. Good cable management is a nightmare due to the fact that their is no separation between the pcu and mobo and that the mobo is far away from the drives. And also the steel interior adds to the fact that the cables are very visible. And the 942 undoubtably cools better.

So yes the things he said are kind of true but he exagurates(however you write that)
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July 30, 2010 11:58:41 AM

922 is an amazing case with amazing cable manegement and no body cares about the inside of the case the only thing you will look at is the monitor i mean who will open his case and keep staring at it.

and t pi's can be easily clocked at 1600mhz 6-7-6-24 @1.5v

also the nh-d14 is expensive and only outpreforms some cheaper hsf by 1-5 degrees

also i don't think it's faster than the f3 http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-har...[3016]=on&prod[2365]=on

also if he can wait till the spinpoint's f4 come out it will beat the 300gb velociraptors
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July 30, 2010 12:25:14 PM

If that would be the case what's the point of cable management in the first place? Exept the neglectable difference in airflow.

Yes but mushkins can be clocked even lower while being lower.

1-5degrees is significant. It can give you an extra 200mhz orso.

Read throughput is mostly irrelevant. Random read/write is what matters for everything exept for copying large files. And there blacks exel. Read the toms review of a sinpoint f3 in the conclusion they write that for enthousiasts blacks are still the way to go.

again that wouldn't be in random read/write which is what matters.
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July 30, 2010 12:27:42 PM

anyways it's the op decision and he is getting a ssd anyways.
nuff said.

offtopic:
Spoiler
hi 007 did u get anothe 470gtx
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July 30, 2010 12:35:11 PM

yup indeed enough said. I mean wether you go with mrhoshos96's reccomendations or mine it doesn't really matter. I'm sure you'll be more than satisisfied with both.

It's as banthracis one said and then coldsleep repeated after him "It's like going to an office supply store and asking which pencil is best" (that's not really it but I forgot what it was exactly)

In the end all our reccomendations are good.

And no not yet I'm still wondering what to do with my system and I'd like some input. If you'd post on my thread I'd be very happy :D .

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/291118-13-need-filg...

Since if I get one big screen my single 470 would be adequate. Why do you ask?
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