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Video Editing Builds, AMD 6 core VS Intel 4 Core??? Suggestions?

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July 25, 2010 8:36:44 PM

Hello All,

I am specking out a couple of different options for a mid a higher end Video Editing Station.
Three separate system are specked out I would like any suggestions you have for improvement!

Will be using Adobe CS5, Maya, and shooting with HD footage from a Canon 7D.
Maybe would like to do a hackintosh if possible. Wouldn't mind them being cheaper
if performance doesn't suffer much, THANKS and let me know your thoughts!

1. Sub $1000 AMD 6-Core (Video editing CS5, light Maya, some light gaming,
Like it to be compact, quiet and power efficient)

CASE LIAN LI PC-A05NB Black Aluminum ATX Mini Tower $90
PSU OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W $72
DVD Sony Optiarc Black DVD+RW $20
MB GIGABYTE GA-880GMA-UD2H $108
CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 125W (95W if available) $200
COOLER ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm Ceramic $29
V.C. SAPPHIRE 100284L Radeon HD 5750 $147
MEMORY G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 $95
HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB $75
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $99
FANS 2 X Rosewill RFX-120 120mm Case Fan $22
TOTAL = $975

2. Sub $2000 AMD 6-Core (Video editing CS5, Maya, Fast, Quiet, professional looking)

CASE Antec P183 Black $160
PSU Antec CP-1000 1000W $156
DVD Sony Optiarc Black DVD+RW $20
MB GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 $180
CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1090T $296
COOLER ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro $29
V.C. MSI N465GTX-M2D1G GeForce GTX 465 $240
MEM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 $100
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 $100
HDD OS WD SSC-D0128SC-2100 2.5" 128GB SATA II $200
HDD 1 WD SSC-D0128SC-2100 2.5" 128GB SATA II $200
HDD 2 WD Caviar Black WD2001FASS 2TB (backup) $180
OS Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack $140
TOTAL = $2,001

3. Sub $2000 i7 4-Core (Video editing CS5, Maya, Fast, Quiet, professional looking)

CASE Antec P183 Black $160
PSU Antec CP-1000 1000W $156
DVD Sony Optiarc Black DVD+RW $20
MB GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P $193
CPU Intel Core i7 875K @ 2.93Ghz Lynnfield $330
COOLER ZEROtherm 1156 CORE92 Cooler $34
VC MSI N465GTX-M2D1G GeForce GTX 465 $240
MEM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 $100
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 $100
HDD OS WD SSC-D0128SC-2100 2.5" 128GB SATA II $200
WD SSC-D0128SC-2100 2.5" 128GB SATA II $200
HDD 4 WD Caviar Black WD2001FASS 2TB (backup) $180
OS Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack $140
TOTAL = $2,053

So any suggestions???

Plus should i do the 6Core or 4Core system????

THANKS ALL!

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July 25, 2010 9:02:39 PM

Honestly you're not going to see a huge difference between the $1000 dollar rig and the $2000 rig in performance. Sure there will be measurable differences, but not $1000 worth of differences (not in my world anyway)

I'd go with the first build... I'd upgrade to a 5770 (they're like teh same price as 5750's these days) - and also go with slightly better ram. Maybe add another harddrive if you need to backup lots of big files. Either way, 1000 to 1100 is a good range for that build. *also make sure that video card will fit in a mini-atx case


Also, if you do go with one of the other two builds, you shouldn't be putting the GTX465 in anything. The gtx460's just came out and they beat the 465 in almost every category, all while being cheaper and quieter and consume less power.

I'd reccomend either the evga superclock (209.99 on newegg) or the Palit sonic platinum 1gb superclock ($249.99 on newegg)
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July 25, 2010 9:10:01 PM

This will help you with your decision "click" between x6 amd and x4 intel.
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a b B Homebuilt system
July 25, 2010 9:11:58 PM

It seems that the Adobe Software likes multicore Intel Processors and the Video Card you should be aiming for is NVIDIA which I believe has better support for Open GL. (I could be wrong though).
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July 26, 2010 12:57:28 AM

Great suggestions! Now i do full length production work so these projects will be 90 minutes or so - render times are the biggest factor and i have assumed that maybe not immediate but 6 cores will render faster then 4 hence my desire for the 10XXT cpu's you really think that the difference between the 1090T and the 1055T will be negligible - the larger systems would also be hooked into a server and a couple SATA external drives for backups on a constant basis - will look into lowering the specs on these - DO you think the difference in ram will not be an issue or that much of one - keep in mind i run Premiere, After Effects, as well ill chrome at the same time switching contantly back and forth between those and other programs?

The larger rigs also have 2 SSDs one for the OS and one for the "main" part bosy of work not large enought for evrything but when doing scene by scene it will work size wize. You think the SSD will make a significant bump in speed of work flow?

Thanks for the comments!

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July 26, 2010 12:59:26 AM

Those stats are great but i am not looking for gaming performance i need to think about render times. If an app is multi threaded it should be better to get a 6 core right?
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July 26, 2010 1:56:02 AM

try this motherboard instead..ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard its only 100.00 bucks.. and supports 2 gpus @ full 16x and it can go nice with the 1055t cpu.. using that micro MB scares me a little.. you wanna make sure your video cards fit. and with this motherboard being bigger.. heat will be less of an issue.. i personally would go with your first amd build.. only thing i would change is the MB i suggested and a beefier power supply. and totally off topic.. since your using cs5.. PLEASE get an intuos4.. thats one of the best investments ive ever made.. i looovvvee my intuos. :) 
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July 26, 2010 2:36:41 AM

All about Intuos Had several over the years and yes a HUGE benefit in all programs in my opinion, less strain on the wrists too

I guess the case i have picked will fit the ATX board and i have built with ASUS before and love there quality (same with Gigabyte)

Is the micro boards only concern the fitting of the video card? I original was going to go with a smaller case hence why i have the micro ATX board - I also like that it is newer the the ASUS - I will definitely take that suggestion to heart maybe look for an ATX board that is slightly newer i do not want to have to do some crazy bios flash hence why i didn't go with MSI - read a lot of reviews they didn't natively support the new AMD 6 cores? Gonna look more into taht MB and thanks for the suggestions!
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July 26, 2010 2:54:45 AM

Any thought sbetween these three boards i like the ASRock at the bottom great stuff on board but can ASRocks be trusted?

all from newegg

ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

ASRock 880G EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
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July 26, 2010 2:58:20 AM

These might be better benchmarks for your purposes:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/46?vs=146

That's a comparison between a core i7 clocked at 2.93 GHz versus an AMD 1090T at 3.2 GHz. The i7 wins almost every benchmark (note that in some, "lower is better") even with a clockspeed disadvantage.

After a little research, CS5 sees and can utilize all of the virtual cores of the i7, so it's more like you're using 8 cores than 4. The benchmarks linked are from CS4.

So, I guess it's kind of close. I'd be inclined to go with Intel since all single-threaded processes will be faster and multi-threaded performance will be so close or in favor of intel.

And you definitely want an Nvidia card for graphics, since they support CUDA, which the "mercury engine" in CS5 uses for some accelerated features.

Then you have to consider whether an upgrade to a "bulldozer" CPU is worth it for you. This is AMDs new architecture that will be compatible with the current AM3 socket. Of course, nothing is known about price or performance, but you'd have the option.

So, I guess I like your sub-$2000 AMD build.

You may want to do some research on those SSDs, though. As far as I know, the OCZ Vertex 2's with the Sandforce controllers are the best alongside any SSD for which Intel makes the controller.

EDIT: For motherboard, stick with ASUS or Gigabyte.
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July 26, 2010 3:07:08 AM

THANKS! I will Stick with ASUS or Gigabyte and as far as the chip i am still teetering on the 4 core vs 6 core - i know bench marks now are going to favor the intel but once programs utilize more cores it could be a better long term deal. Thanks for the link!

Now as far as supporting CS5 and CUDA dont only the quadros really support that???

THANKS

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July 26, 2010 3:14:51 AM

Think i found the board!


ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
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July 26, 2010 9:13:04 PM

acromie said:
All about Intuos Had several over the years and yes a HUGE benefit in all programs in my opinion, less strain on the wrists too

I guess the case i have picked will fit the ATX board and i have built with ASUS before and love there quality (same with Gigabyte)

Is the micro boards only concern the fitting of the video card? I original was going to go with a smaller case hence why i have the micro ATX board - I also like that it is newer the the ASUS - I will definitely take that suggestion to heart maybe look for an ATX board that is slightly newer i do not want to have to do some crazy bios flash hence why i didn't go with MSI - read a lot of reviews they didn't natively support the new AMD 6 cores? Gonna look more into taht MB and thanks for the suggestions!



thank you :D  and yes this MB will also support 6 core cpu's.. and not only the video cards fitting but the features this board offers are awesome IMO..and the temp stays nice and cool.. to be honest its the board im using as i type you this.. :)  asus has never done me wrong..
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July 27, 2010 12:07:36 AM

ASUS makes a great product i have decided to go with this one

ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3

little more money but it has a 1394a and eSata port that will save me a card to install well for now! Thanks for the input!

Systems Specs if you are interested -


CHEAP SYSTEM

CASE/OS COMBO LIAN LI PC-A05NB Black Aluminum ATX Mini Tower $180
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU/MB COMBO ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 $295
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 125W
VC/PSU COMBO OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W $190 -$20 MIR
ASUS CuCore Series Radeon HD 5770 -$20 MIR

DVD Sony Optiarc Black DVD+RW $20
CPU COOLER ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm Ceramic $29
MEMORY G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM $95
HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB $75
KEY/MOUSE Rosewill RK-7300 Black Keyboard $15
CASE FANS ENERMAX MAGMA UC-MA12 120mm Case Fan $20

TOTAL $920 - $40 MIR = $880




HIGHER END SYSTEM

CASE/PSU COMBO 1. Antec P183 $240
2. Antec CP-850
MB/CPU COMBO 1. AMD 1055T $350
2. GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5

VC GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-768I GeForce GTX 460 $200
MEM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM $100
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM $100
HDD OS WD SSC-D0128SC-2100 2.5" 128GB SATA II $200
HDD 2 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB $75
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB $75
OS Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack $100
ENERMAX MAGMA UC-MA12 120mm Case Fan $20
COOLER ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro $29
DVD Sony Optiarc Black DVD+RW $20
TOTAL $1,460


Thanks for all the help!!!
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