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September 28, 2010 10:29:32 PM

Umm Hi, I am totally a newbie at computer-building and I have never done it before. That is why I'm ordering from this website which you customize it and they make it and deliver it to you.

I am build this : http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_II/

Under these settings:

-Azza Orion Gaming Mid-Tower Case with See-Thru Side Panel
Silver with Blue Lightning

Internal USB Extension Module:
-NZXT Internal USB 6-PORT Expansion Module

CPU:
-AMD Phenom™II X4 945 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology


-FREE Game: S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat
-FREE Game: DiRT™2

Cooling Fan:
-NZXT Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)

Motherboard:
- Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD 870/SB850 chipset DDR3 Ultra Durable™3 Socket AM3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, GBLAN, Support 6-core CPU, CPU Auto Unlocker, USB3.0, SATA-III, ON/OFF Charge for IPod, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI

Memory:
-4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1333MHz Dual Channel Memory

Video Card:
- ATI Radeon HD 5670 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card

FREE Blacklight: Tango Down Coupon with purchase of ATI Radeon HD5670 video card or above
FREE Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Power Supply:
-500 Watts - Standard Case Power Supply

Hard Drive:
-1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

Data Hard Drive:
-500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

Optical Drive:
-24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive

Sound:
-HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

Total Price:$753


Also, I have some questions:

1) How can I make this pc cheaper and perform kind of the same...

2) What is the difference between hard drive and data hard drive, is data hard drive neccessary?

3) How come there is Video Card, Video Card 2, Video Card 3?

4) Is cooling fan a must-have?

5) Is this a fair price or could I get a better one for a lot cheaper?


Thank you so much for taking your valuable time for reading this, any help would be appreciated.

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September 28, 2010 10:45:07 PM

Well the cooling fan is necessary but liquid cooling is not. You could prolly save some money by going with an air cooler.
Kind of the same? I'm not sure what you mean exactly, but I think that an Athlon II X3 CPU would perform similarly in games. The quad would be better for multitasking, but it would not be much different than the X3.

The main hard drive will carry the operating system. Some folks like a second hard drive for Data storage, in this case the data drive is smaller than the boot drive, which doesn't make a lot of sense. skip the data drive.

The video card 1,2 and 3 means the system is capable of using multiple video cards. For the 870 chipset, I would NOT recommend 3 video cards, 2 at most.

The price seems fair to me.
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September 28, 2010 10:49:22 PM

The Hard drive and data hard drive are the same type of drive, its just they're referring to the data hard drive as extra storage, which would be used more if you had an SSD as the "Hard Drive" option. As is you could do with just the 1TB Hard Drive and negate the Data hard drive.

The Video Card 2 and Vid Card 3 would be if you were running multiple Video Cards in one system, commonly referred to as SLI or Crossfire.

If you're talking about the hard drive cooling fan then no, it's not a must-have.

As far as making it more cost efficient, that would depend on how much you were looking to spend.
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September 28, 2010 11:35:16 PM

Another question, do you need a wireless network card in order for wireless?
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September 28, 2010 11:37:16 PM

Case: Azza Orion Gaming Mid-Tower Case with See-Thru Side Panel [-8] (Silver with Blue Lightning)
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]
CPU: AMD Athlon™II X4 640 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+46]
Freebies: None
Cooling Fan: AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK [-20]
Motherboard: GigaByte GA-870A-UD3 AMD 870/SB850 chipset support DDR3 Ultra Durable™3 Socket AM3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, GBLAN, Support 6-core CPU, CPU Auto Unlocker, USB3.0, SATA-III, ON/OFF Charge for IPod, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI
Motherboard Expansion Card: None
Memory: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB DDR2 16X PCIe Video Card [-55] (Major Brand Powered by ATI)
Freebies: None
Video Card 2: None
Video Card 3: None
Dedicated PHYSX Card: None
Free Game: FREE Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Multiple Video Card Settings: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
Power Supply Upgrade: 500 Watts - Standard Case Power Supply
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
Data Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: 120 Watt Stereo Speakers [-2] (Black Color)
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Network Surge Protector: None
Mega Notebook/Netbook/Server Bundle: None
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: None [-3]
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: PCI Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps Network Interface Card [+19]
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
Surge Protector: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
Floppy: None
Operating System: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS


With these setting, will I be able to do everything a normal bought computer would?

Thanks for the well-written replies btw :D 
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September 28, 2010 11:56:52 PM

As per your Wireless question, you list in the most recent specs:

Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: PCI Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps Network Interface Card [+19]

Which would cover you on the wireless side, however you can also buy USB 802.11B/G/N for around the same price as that adapter card. Wireless N is the newest spec and is faster then B and G. That being said you have to have a Wireless N router to use it so that may also be a factor. However I'd say just buy a USB Wireless N adapter, it will work on B and G, and you have the upgrade path to N if you don't have it already.
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September 29, 2010 12:14:01 AM

@dassox Oh so I dont need those extra pieces if I connect my internet wired?

@amd655 I am using it for gaming/casual pc purposes.
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September 29, 2010 12:18:46 AM

If you are running this desktop over a wired connection then there is no need to have the wireless B/G PCI card added. Pretty much all motherboards nowadays come with onboard ethernet.

From your spec list:
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network

that will cover you if you're just running a network cable.
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September 29, 2010 12:25:06 AM

Wow thanks dassox and other answerers! Really helping me a lot here and learning so much!

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September 29, 2010 12:26:51 AM

So final decision before I order, I took your guys advices and set the price down to 600$

If I order, I have a default OS installed already, all the cables I need, all the drivers I need, I can just install my game and run it, and my internet is set to go?

Checking before I order.
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September 29, 2010 12:42:47 AM

Just as a heads up that 5450 may leave a lot to be desired as it is not a very powerful card. All depends on what sort of games you play, and at what resolution you plan on playing them.
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September 29, 2010 12:53:51 AM

Wait, does CPU really matter while running a high-quality game?

If so, is there a big difference between AMD Athlon™II X4 640 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology and AMD Athlon™II X2 250 Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology ? I dont want to waste 50 bucks :p 

Also, can you recommend any CPU and Video Card?
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September 29, 2010 2:36:30 AM

What is overlocking? And how do I increase this *gpu*
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September 29, 2010 2:38:56 AM

Ummm I ticked some stuff and how is this?

Case: Xion Predator 970 Gaming Series Mid Tower Case w/ 2 External Removable HDD Bays [-1]
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: AMD Phenom™II X4 955 Black Edition Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+90]
Freebies: FREE Game: S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat
FREE Game: DiRT™2
Cooling Fan: AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK [-20]
Motherboard: GigaByte GA-870A-UD3 AMD 870/SB850 chipset support DDR3 Ultra Durable™3 Socket AM3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, GBLAN, Support 6-core CPU, CPU Auto Unlocker, USB3.0, SATA-III, ON/OFF Charge for IPod, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI
Motherboard Expansion Card: None
Memory: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [+50] (Major Brand Powered by ATI)
Freebies: None
Video Card 2: None
Video Card 3: None
Dedicated PHYSX Card: None
Free Game: FREE Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Multiple Video Card Settings: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
Power Supply Upgrade: 600 Watts - Sigma SP-600AB ESP 80 Plus Power Supply [+8]
Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-41] (Single Hard Drive)
Data Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: 120 Watt Stereo Speakers [-2] (Black Color)
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Network Surge Protector: None
Mega Notebook/Netbook/Server Bundle: None
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: None [-3]
Gaming Gear: Razer Sphex Gaming Grade Desktop Skins Mouse Pad [+13]
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: All-in-One External USB 2.0 Card Reader/Writer (Blue Color) [+1]
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
Surge Protector: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
Floppy: None
Operating System: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: None
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September 29, 2010 3:27:12 AM

Okay that one was my final and I am ordering for Christmas! Thanks everyone for your support all day! This forum is really supportive!
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