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BUDGET RANGE: Around $1000 on parts I don't already have.
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: office work, music playback, web development, HTPC, some photo editing, and I want to start checking out some FPS and auto racing games, and might or might not get more into games in the future.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: case, monitor, OS, keyboard, mouse, speakers
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, amazon.com, tigerdirect and circuitcity for bing cashback, centralcomputers.com for local pickup to save on shipping costs, maybe Microcenter
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: Western Digital drives. G.Skill RAM because they seem to have good support. I'm willing to pay more for good companies with good support and solid products.
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe next year
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe, for the same reasons as overclocking.
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200 for the HP ZR24w 24" monitor I just bought. Also need output via S-video to TV. Might go dual monitor in the future.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
Hi,
I think the Athlon II x4 635 + Asus M4A89GTD might be a good combo for me. What do you think?
This is my first build and the high performance uses are HTPC, some photo editing, and I want to start checking out some FPS and auto racing games, and might or might not get more into games in the future.
Many thanks to batuchka for pointing me in the right direction, summarizing my needs well, and picking out a CPU. I did my due diligence and read reviews and benchmarks and it looks like the Athlon II x4 635 is a great choice for me.
I need s-video, DVI or Displayport, and esata.
I want this machine to be fast, snappy, quick, and silent.
Overclocking next year maybe.
If I do light to medium overclocking, should I get this Scythe SCMG-2100 Sleeve CPU Cooler now or wait until next year when I start overclocking? I'm kinda thinking "now" so I won't need to redo it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142
Is the C3 version of the CPU worth $16 more +tax+shipping? Otherwise I'm buying the C2 version from tigerdirect or circuitcity with bing cashback. Unless I'm missing something, it looks like the answer is no from:
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/372/AMD_Athlon_II_X4_635_%28rev._C2%29_vs_AMD_Athlon_II_X4_635_%28rev._C3%29.html
Motherboard option 1:
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131631
Compared to the other boards below, it has the latest northbridge chipset, which probably wouldn't make much difference to me.
My gut is telling me to go with this board because of the on-board video and it has more newegg reviews than the Gigabyte boards.
Option 2:
GIGABYTE GA-890XA-UD3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128438
Someone in another thread wisely pointed out that this board has 2 extra sata ports which is enticing to me, but I prefer the on-board video on the Asus.
Option 3:
GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128441
This board has dual LAN ports. I'd get this board if I could connect my DSL modem to one port and another computer to the other port and allow the other computer to connect to the Internet. I don't think that's possible though, is it? I think I'd need a router.
This board doesn't have the latest Realtek sound and LAN chips it seems, which probably wouldn't make much difference to me.
Some CPU fans and heatsinks apparently get in the way of the RAM slots on the Gigabyte boards, and the RAM needs to be moved, limiting the board to only 2 slots. Eyeballing the proximity of the CPU socket to the RAM slots, it looks like it might be a concern and a reason to go with the ASUS.
I originally wanted to go with a Gigabyte board because I've read they have better quality and support overall, and good manuals which are good for first time builders. But I'm leaning towards going with the masses and getting an Asus.
Any reasons I should pick one of the Gigabyte boards? Any other boards I should consider? Functionality is more important to me than saving $20-$50.
RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276
Not exactly sure what I'm buying with RAM: latency, speed, etc., but it's listed in the QVL.
http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=5169&highlight=M4A89GTD
PSU:
SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087
Modular, silent fan, lots of SATA connectors, 5 year warranty, power switch that will likely never be in the "off" position.
I'm probably going to have 4-6 sata drives, 1 ODD, 1 Intel 40GB SSD boot drive.
Slots:
2 PCIe x1 - 1 or 2 capture cards
1 PCIe x1 - maybe a wireless card
2 PCIe x16 - 2 graphics cards?
At first, I was going to get this video card for s-video out:
XFX HD-435X-YAH2 Radeon HD 4350 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150335
This is the cheapest card with s-video and Win7 64-bit support that I could find.
But Asus said that their VGA port supports TV-out, so I can try to use this adapter first:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040113&p_id=2509&seq=1&format=2
With on-board video, can I get the max resolution on both DVI and VGA with unique (non-mirrored) displays, or do I need separate cards?
Case FYI:
ARK 4U-500-CA Black 4U Rackmount Case 3 External 5.25" Drive Bays
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811182566
My original thread is here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/290843-31-htpc-music-server-photo-editing-main-work-computer
Please let me know what you think about this rig!
Thanks!
-- Ed
BUDGET RANGE: Around $1000 on parts I don't already have.
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: office work, music playback, web development, HTPC, some photo editing, and I want to start checking out some FPS and auto racing games, and might or might not get more into games in the future.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: case, monitor, OS, keyboard, mouse, speakers
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, amazon.com, tigerdirect and circuitcity for bing cashback, centralcomputers.com for local pickup to save on shipping costs, maybe Microcenter
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: Western Digital drives. G.Skill RAM because they seem to have good support. I'm willing to pay more for good companies with good support and solid products.
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe next year
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe, for the same reasons as overclocking.
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200 for the HP ZR24w 24" monitor I just bought. Also need output via S-video to TV. Might go dual monitor in the future.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
Hi,
I think the Athlon II x4 635 + Asus M4A89GTD might be a good combo for me. What do you think?
This is my first build and the high performance uses are HTPC, some photo editing, and I want to start checking out some FPS and auto racing games, and might or might not get more into games in the future.
Many thanks to batuchka for pointing me in the right direction, summarizing my needs well, and picking out a CPU. I did my due diligence and read reviews and benchmarks and it looks like the Athlon II x4 635 is a great choice for me.
I need s-video, DVI or Displayport, and esata.
I want this machine to be fast, snappy, quick, and silent.
Overclocking next year maybe.
If I do light to medium overclocking, should I get this Scythe SCMG-2100 Sleeve CPU Cooler now or wait until next year when I start overclocking? I'm kinda thinking "now" so I won't need to redo it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142
Is the C3 version of the CPU worth $16 more +tax+shipping? Otherwise I'm buying the C2 version from tigerdirect or circuitcity with bing cashback. Unless I'm missing something, it looks like the answer is no from:
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/372/AMD_Athlon_II_X4_635_%28rev._C2%29_vs_AMD_Athlon_II_X4_635_%28rev._C3%29.html
Motherboard option 1:
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131631
Compared to the other boards below, it has the latest northbridge chipset, which probably wouldn't make much difference to me.
My gut is telling me to go with this board because of the on-board video and it has more newegg reviews than the Gigabyte boards.
Option 2:
GIGABYTE GA-890XA-UD3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128438
Someone in another thread wisely pointed out that this board has 2 extra sata ports which is enticing to me, but I prefer the on-board video on the Asus.
Option 3:
GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128441
This board has dual LAN ports. I'd get this board if I could connect my DSL modem to one port and another computer to the other port and allow the other computer to connect to the Internet. I don't think that's possible though, is it? I think I'd need a router.
This board doesn't have the latest Realtek sound and LAN chips it seems, which probably wouldn't make much difference to me.
Some CPU fans and heatsinks apparently get in the way of the RAM slots on the Gigabyte boards, and the RAM needs to be moved, limiting the board to only 2 slots. Eyeballing the proximity of the CPU socket to the RAM slots, it looks like it might be a concern and a reason to go with the ASUS.
I originally wanted to go with a Gigabyte board because I've read they have better quality and support overall, and good manuals which are good for first time builders. But I'm leaning towards going with the masses and getting an Asus.
Any reasons I should pick one of the Gigabyte boards? Any other boards I should consider? Functionality is more important to me than saving $20-$50.
RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276
Not exactly sure what I'm buying with RAM: latency, speed, etc., but it's listed in the QVL.
http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=5169&highlight=M4A89GTD
PSU:
SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087
Modular, silent fan, lots of SATA connectors, 5 year warranty, power switch that will likely never be in the "off" position.
I'm probably going to have 4-6 sata drives, 1 ODD, 1 Intel 40GB SSD boot drive.
Slots:
2 PCIe x1 - 1 or 2 capture cards
1 PCIe x1 - maybe a wireless card
2 PCIe x16 - 2 graphics cards?
At first, I was going to get this video card for s-video out:
XFX HD-435X-YAH2 Radeon HD 4350 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150335
This is the cheapest card with s-video and Win7 64-bit support that I could find.
But Asus said that their VGA port supports TV-out, so I can try to use this adapter first:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040113&p_id=2509&seq=1&format=2
With on-board video, can I get the max resolution on both DVI and VGA with unique (non-mirrored) displays, or do I need separate cards?
Case FYI:
ARK 4U-500-CA Black 4U Rackmount Case 3 External 5.25" Drive Bays
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811182566
My original thread is here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/290843-31-htpc-music-server-photo-editing-main-work-computer
Please let me know what you think about this rig!
Thanks!
-- Ed