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July 27, 2010 11:26:44 PM

Hello

I am a PC newbie looking to build a gaming PC. I'd prefer a build that's around $1200 (Canadian), though I'm willing to go up to $1400. My current build is closer to $1100. I'd like some advice on my current build.

Thanks

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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week

BUDGET RANGE: 1200-1400 Before Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, videos, surfing

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: http://www.newegg.ca/

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada

PARTS PREFERENCES: None

OVERCLOCKING: Yes

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1280x1024

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My current build:

Motherboard: MSI 790X-G45 AM3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Processor: i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Cooler: Cooler Master HyperTX 3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Graphics: XFX HD-587X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5870
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Harddrive: Seagate 7200.12 (1 TB)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Optical: Lite-On iHas124
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Power: Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Thanks in advance

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a b 4 Gaming
July 27, 2010 11:33:00 PM

Upgrading the monitor soon? For 1280*1024 the 5870 is 100% overkill.

Also, you picked an AMD AM3 motherboard but a Intel 1156, and they would NOT work. Choose which way you want to go.

Either get a P55 board or a Phenom II CPU.
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July 28, 2010 2:58:25 PM

Very good choice, excellent board. With such low resolution I would consider the GTX 460 (1gb), it is a lot cheaper and will be plenty of power for the resolution you have, with the added bonus that when you buy a new monitor you can overclock the GTX460 to cope with most games...or even better SLI them which from all the reviews has an insanely good result.

In fact, with a GTX460 you could save enough to nearly afford a nice 1920 x 1080 monitor.

The other alternative would be the 5850 as that can cope with 1920 x 1080, and this used to be my top card choice for games, but seeing the SLI performance of the GTX 460 has me starting to favour it
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July 29, 2010 8:26:41 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. Using the GTX460 can save quite a chunk. Before I buy the machine, I'll post my updated build. Lemme know if there are any issues or incompatibilities with my setup.

Thanks

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Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Processor: i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Cooler: Cooler Master HyperTX 3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Graphics: SPARKLE SXX4601024D5SNM GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Harddrive: Seagate 7200.12 (1 TB)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Optical: Lite-On iHas124
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Power: Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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July 29, 2010 8:41:15 PM

For PSU go to here
http://rankedpsulist.dabbledb.com/publish/rankedpsulist...
=or for different than 650w= http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/278567-28-ranked-list...

If you going to be getting a thermal compound go here
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

and some help with picking a CPU cooler
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm TOP 10 COOLERS FOR INTEL
and if you want a broader view with EXACT degrees cooled
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=252...

Good luck man
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a b 4 Gaming
July 29, 2010 8:45:13 PM

Hears a combo deal on the CPU/Mobo: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item...

And get the 768MB GTX460, for you its perfectly enough.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Also, a slightly less powerful (but still plenty for your needs) PSU for $10 less: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

If you're a fan of MIRs, this comes out to be cheaper and slight better than that corsair: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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July 29, 2010 9:07:08 PM

Here incase you decide to go with the Antec

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

The PSU is of MUCH better quality, MUCH! its much more stable and its made of great quality beats your corsair and with this combo they are vary comparable
THIS THING IS STABLE!!!!!!


"Ripple and noise levels were impressively low....."
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a b 4 Gaming
July 29, 2010 9:09:37 PM

belltollsforthee said:
Here incase you decide to go with the Antec

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

The PSU is of MUCH better quality, MUCH! its much more stable and its made of great qulaty beats your cosair and with this combo it ends up being much cheaper, thats a STEAL!

The Corsair is already an high quality unit, how much better can you go? LOLS.
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July 29, 2010 9:20:37 PM

Hey, PSU are complex units and they are the "heart" of your system, they can get up to crazy quality

and here just look at this chart ratings
the antec PSU beats out the Corisar HX! not even compared to the TX DANG!

the antec that im talking about will give you SUPERIOR STABILITY found in very few quality PSUs and the more wattage available will give you higher efficiency as it is overkill, but for the money you get ITS A STEAL! this thing will also give you more headroom for OCing and upgrading in the future, and possibly even go with you to your next build

plain and simple IT CAN GET BETTER

need some sauce?
http://rankedpsulist.dabbledb.com/publish/rankedpsulist...

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-TruePower-...
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/371/1
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a b 4 Gaming
July 29, 2010 9:29:33 PM

belltollsforthee said:
Hey, PSU are complex units and they are the "heart" of your system, they can get up crazy quality

and here just look at this chart ratings
the antec PSU beats out the Corisar HX! not even compared to the TX DANG!

the antec that im talking about will give you SUPERIOR STABILITY found in very few quality PSUs and the more wattage available will give you higher efficiency as it is overkill, but for the money you get ITS A STEAL! this thing will also give you more headroom for OCing and upgrading in the future, and possibly even go with you to your next build

plain and simple IT CAN GET BETTER

need some sauce?
http://rankedpsulist.dabbledb.com/publish/rankedpsulist...

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-TruePower-...
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/371/1

Never said it cant get better, just not "MUCH better" like you said. The TP is a good deal, given he want a 900 also.

Besides, the HX620 and TX650 DOES NOT use the same design. the HX uses a Seasonic while the TX uses one from Channelwell.
Heres the review for a similar TX750 design, http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-TX750W-P...
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July 29, 2010 9:30:01 PM

Well, since your Canadian newegg dont have the combo available for you NVM
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July 29, 2010 9:37:39 PM

Timop said:
Never said it cant get better, just not "MUCH better" like you said. The TP is a good deal, given he want a 900 also.

Besides, the HX620 and TX650 DOES NOT use the same design. the HX uses a Seasonic while the TX uses one from Channelwell.
Heres the review for a similar TX750 design, http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-TX750W-P...



well the from what i have read the HX is a better design, and if you read the review, the "electrical noise level. Even though noise level was within ATX specs we expected that this unit would produce a lower noise level. This “problem” should not worry Average Joe, but if you are an extreme enthusiast looking for a flawless power supply you should look for another 750 W model with lower electric noise level."

thats the stability, am i right? how much it "wobbles" in the amount of power it is supplying


*and if memory serves me right they use the Taiwanese products in this build which have been prone to explosions?
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July 29, 2010 9:40:48 PM

the PSU is often overlooked in a build, and its one of the most vital parts because it powers everything, a good quality PSU is said to extend the life and quality of the components inside your build

Choose carefully
use this chart to help you out man
http://rankedpsulist.dabbledb.com/publish/rankedpsulist...
*ops here is the correct link


I recommend this one If you wont go with the Antec PSU
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
FOR 65 BUCKS CANAIDIAN! and free shipping and better quality build than HX or TX
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a b 4 Gaming
July 29, 2010 9:57:26 PM

belltollsforthee said:
the PSU is often overlooked in a build, and its one of the most vital parts because it powers everything, a good quality PSU is said to extend the life and quality of the components inside your build

Choose carefully
use this chart to help you out man
http://rankedpsulist.dabbledb.com/publish/rankedpsulist...
*ops here is the correct link


I recommend this one
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

FOR 65 BUCKS CANAIDIAN! and free shipping and better quality build than HX or TX

Any decent Corsair is better than those darn generics/Diabloteks/Raidmaxes etc., and after that, a little extra ripple doesn't hurt so much.

That Rosewill does look like a darn good unit for the price though, 2 year warranty is a bit short, and ATNG can get fishy. But that is value right there.
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July 30, 2010 12:01:17 AM

Thanks for all the feedback. What's fishy about ATNG? I'm nervous about getting a component only to have it break down after half a year

Any comments about the cooler? Is it sufficiently good?

Also, would the setup still be good if I decide to SLI the video card in the future?

Right now, my setup looks like this, but I'm unsure about the PSU:

Motherboard + Processor: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel
i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item...

Cooler: Cooler Master HyperTX 3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Graphics: Palit NE5TX460FHD79 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Harddrive: Seagate 7200.12 (1 TB)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Optical: Lite-On iHas124
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Power: Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Comes out to roughly $950. Very nice, it might save me enough for me to consider upgrading the monitor :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
July 30, 2010 12:08:27 AM

The thing fishy about ATNG is their product lacks consistency, badly. It could be so awesome on for one model it matches the top-brands like Antec/Seasonic, but another model can be SO BAD it fails under half the load. Rosewill is newegg's housebrand by the way, so if you want to take the "risk" go ahead.

Id say use the stock cooler for now, the TX3 isn't bad, but its not awfully good either. Id say when you have the cash for another GTX460, buy something nice like a Suger Mega/Performa and such. But since its so cheap, you could just get it anyways.
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July 30, 2010 3:26:21 AM

Thanks for all the feedback. I'm getting close to ready to purchasing/building.

That fan's considerably pricier. What are the pros of that one over the Performa I linked? I'm leaning toward going for the cheaper one if it does the job well

My (almost) final build looks like this:

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Motherboard + Processor: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel
i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item...

Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS10X Performa 120mm Long life CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Graphics: Palit NE5TX460FHD79 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Harddrive: Seagate 7200.12 (1 TB)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Optical: Lite-On iHas124
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Power: Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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July 30, 2010 8:12:52 AM

Very much depends on how much Overclocking you plan on doing to the i5 750. That expensive one would be tailored for those really wanting to push the i5 to the max, but if you are looking to just do some moderate overclocking then a lesser cooler would likely do
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August 6, 2010 7:41:23 PM

So I have most of the components. The cooler looks rather large and chunky. Is there going to be any problems with the cooler fitting neatly into the case, or is this setup fine as it is?

I haven't opened anything yet to check because if there are any problems, I wouldn't be able to refund it for the full price
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August 16, 2010 2:57:11 AM

Best answer selected by NoKnuckles.
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