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1st build, $~1500 AMD gaming rig

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July 28, 2010 2:26:47 AM

Looking for any and all input.

Looking to build a gaming rig that I will be able to update in the future.

Case COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, $60
PSU Rosewill Xtreme Series RX950-D-B 950W, $120
CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX, $180
GPU XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity, $310
Mobo Foxconn A7DA-S 3.0 AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard, $95
RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333, $110
HDD Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5", $90
DVD Drive Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM, $25

OS $105
Keyboard/mouse Logitech 967973-0403 Black 104 Normal Keys PS/2 Standard Deluxe 250 Desktop - OEM, $25
Monitor Dell ST2410, $190

plus S/H
plus taxes

~$1500.00CAD total when it's all said and done.



so, critiques, complaints etc etc, have at me.
July 28, 2010 2:57:02 AM

Also, I'm looking to crossfire eventually and upgrade the RAM to 8gb
July 28, 2010 4:13:25 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

Please fill out the form so we can help you better

Ill just copy a recommendation i gave someone else for now as i don't know much about what you want
Quote:

Amd Phenom II X4 955 BE(the exact same cpu as the 965 with lower multiplier, comes with multiplier unlocked for easy overclocking)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Msi 890XA-GD70 (5 pcie slots for good crossfire set ups in the future (up to quadfire))
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gskill Flare 4gb(2x2) DDR3-2000(pc3-16000) CL7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W + COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper black case(originally was going to suggest a different psu but saw this combo which actually cost less than a lower model psu(what i was gonig to recommend) and the case combined)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100283VX-2L Radeon HD 5770 (just copied what previous user recommended but if it were me id probably go for xfx cause of the warranty)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (can be upgraded to something better)


Scythe Mugen-2 Rev.B $47.99
http://www.amazon.com/Scythe-Mugen-2-SCMG-2100-74-25CFM...

You can choose a good HDD


That build got up to $1002.92


For the Rest these are my recommendations but feel free to look at others of course


HDD (choice/s)

Samsung Spinpoint F3 500gb $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500gb $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wester digital Caviar Black WD1002Faex 1tb $94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitors (choice/s)

Asus VW246H 24" 2ms $219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...






though can easily get a 5870 in there by taking things out(as in going to better value over performance that you wont use/notice) you wouldn't need
all prices are before MIR(if applicable)
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July 28, 2010 10:11:31 AM

I'm gonna say the copied/paste config is sinking too much into 'what ifs' i.e pricey multi GPU board at the price of golden real frames u can enjoy *now* No point building castles in the air at the cost or poor returns of investment frames/$$ Hence me advocating the best (or near the top of the food chain) single GPU solutions your $$ can buy you *now* for the best gains. So i would hit a 955BE + 870 + HD 5850/5870
July 28, 2010 10:18:14 AM

Any board that will support 8x/8x would be sufficient, although I'd recommend Gigabyte, ASUS or MSI. I hear the Foxconn boards have trapped souls of Chinese workers in them
July 28, 2010 3:25:07 PM

If you can find an AM3 board with SLI capabilities, I would suggest to get one with two GTX460.

Better option than a 5850 for around 70$ more.
July 28, 2010 3:31:32 PM

as a1l3 said fill out the form so we can help.
July 28, 2010 3:36:15 PM

Let's say...

PII 955
OCZ 650W Z serie
2 X GTX460
MSI NF980-G65 AM3
Antec Nine Hundred
Western Digital 1TB caviar black
4GB of any memory DDR3 1333 or 1600
July 28, 2010 3:40:59 PM

@redgarl
1-ocz psu's aren't better quality than xfx and corsair's plus it's a waste of money i would suggest an xfx 650w

2-also 2 gtx 460's will totally ruin the upgrade path

3-the haf 922 is muuch better than the 900

4-a samsung f3 1tb can beat that black drive and for a lower price

July 28, 2010 8:48:51 PM

Take 2:

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: ASAP, money is burning a hole in my pockets

BUDGET RANGE: $1000-$1500 inc taxes and shipping

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, surfing the web

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: N/A, I'm starting from scratch

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.ca

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada

PARTS PREFERENCES: AMD. I would like USB 3.0 compatibility as well.

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Possibly depending on what GPU I end up buying

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I'd like to be able to bump the RAM up to 8gigs (or more) in the future. My first build but I don't wanna go too cheap, I want something to be proud of. Also, I have essentially no idea what makes a good mobo choice.




AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Rosewill Xtreme Series RX950-D-B 950W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire Ready, Active PFC "Compatible with Core i7, i5" Power Supply

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM

Foxconn A7DA-S 3.0 AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9S-4GBRL

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Dell ST2310 23 Inch Full HD Monitor

Logitech 967973-0403 Black 104 Normal Keys PS/2 Standard Deluxe 250 Desktop - OEM

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

Rosewill RTK-002 Anti-Static Wrist Strap


July 28, 2010 11:45:40 PM

okay well for one take the 965 out of your list completely go straight for the 955 as they are the exact same cpu while the 965 just has a higher preset multiplier

still say this will save you money (case + psu)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.443720

I for one wouldnt go for a foxconn motherboard a gigabyte would be much better
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

with that budget you should be able to fit a 5870 in there but if you wont be doing much gaming than theres no point

you can get better monitors for the money

you might want to get a cpu cooler so you can raise the multiplier on the cpu

July 29, 2010 5:50:53 PM

what monitor would you suggest?
July 29, 2010 6:16:30 PM

OK, I've re-tooled my build quite a bit thanks to a1l3. (thanks!)

....anyone have any newegg rebate codes? I have a grand total of about $1625CAD and I'm looking to knock that back without have to downgrade.
July 29, 2010 8:04:45 PM

dmb what is the build youve got?

Btw i wouldnt touch that monitor for gaming as the response time is 5ms so you will most likely (depending on how they measured it) get some ghosting

little more expensive but also a little bigger, better response time, and from the sounds of responses has better build quality(even if they are the same make)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

also i dot know what the ram you have picked out is but these sticks are good bang for the buck
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
July 29, 2010 9:11:20 PM
July 29, 2010 9:12:18 PM

stupid taxes and shipping. grrrrr
July 29, 2010 10:09:55 PM

500gb spinpoint instead of 1tb
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

this mobo still lets your crossfire in the future and has an integrated gpu just incase while offering alot of the features that the gd-70 has to offer
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

buy the case and a psu in a combo it saves money psu you chose 139.99 case 129.99 (total270) case + better psu combo 245
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (little cheaper good warranty)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
July 29, 2010 10:24:46 PM

question re: buying 2x2gb of RAM vs one 4gb stick- if I want to upgrade in the future, wouldnt the 2x2gb restrict me to a total of 4gb of RAM.

aka

How much RAM can I fit on a mobo?

also, that case/PSU combo isnt on newegg canada.
July 29, 2010 10:26:56 PM

The person above me is correct. Combo deals are the way to go, just not those combo deals. That psu is rediculously overpowered, you could settle for a 700w let alone a 1000w one. 500 should be fine over 1000gbs. I have seen 5870 builds much cheaper than this one. Here is my build, for 1066 AR:

CPU/Mobo: X4 955 and Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $285 after rebate (with free game)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 63938&SID=
GPU/PSU: HD 5870 and XFX 750W $430 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 63938&SID=
RAM: G.Skill Eco 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 63938&SID=
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 63938&SID=
Case/Optical: Coolermaster 690 and cheap SATA DVD burner $73
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 63938&SID=
OS: Windows 7 Home 64-bit OEM $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 63938&SID=

Total: $1,068 after rebates

EDIT: This was targeted at a1l3
July 29, 2010 10:29:47 PM

he lives in canada.
July 29, 2010 10:32:33 PM

yea, I'm using newegg.ca which doesnt really offer combos (why, I have no idea...)
July 29, 2010 10:56:36 PM

here is a build for $1,426.80 before rebates

cpu+mobo: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... (probably the most efficient and high quality mobo of the 890gx chipset also it can cf)

gpu+ram: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... (great gpu + ram combo both are very high quality)

psu: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (very high quality and cf)

hdd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

odd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

case: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (best case for the money on the market)

os: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

monitor: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
July 29, 2010 11:39:59 PM

hey MR you should name the parts your recommending as the links dont seem to work (though alot don't seem to lately :S)


Quote:
The person above me is correct. Combo deals are the way to go, just not those combo deals. That psu is ridiculously overpowered, you could settle for a 700w let alone a 1000w one. 500 should be fine over 1000gbs. I have seen 5870 builds much cheaper than this one. Here is my build, for 1066 AR:

CPU/Mobo: X4 955 and Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $285 after rebate (with free game)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 63938&SID=
GPU/PSU: HD 5870 and XFX 750W $430 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 63938&SID=
RAM: G.Skill Eco 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 63938&SID=
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 63938&SID=
Case/Optical: Coolermaster 690 and cheap SATA DVD burner $73
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 63938&SID=
OS: Windows 7 Home 64-bit OEM $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 63938&SID=

Total: $1,068 after rebates

EDIT: This was targeted at a1l3

cool i would have offered more combos but as they said hes in canada which also leaves my combo useless as well (just found out about that part)

you offered him the same priced ram (no savings) with same performance while the rips are of better build(arguably)

and imo the 690 case is no where near as good as a storm sniper/haf 922 and the only reason i recommend the storm sniper constantly is the extra fan on the window and the fan controller(though of course the haf could get another fan and a fan controller but that would end costing more than the ss) among other things

btw i stated that 1000w was overboard(way OB obviously) but when it came to the price he could get it cheaper than an 850w
also
Quote:
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Possibly depending on what GPU I end up buying
500w wont cover a CF 5870 build by adding in a more powerful psu such as 700w-850w you leave him with the OPTION to cf if he chooses to someday


BTW i dont see the point in adding in the "targeted at a1l3" this is no argument thread. trying to help out someone, don't attack others >.> you could have easily left it as it was without adding that in, take your filth(by filth i mean your addition) elsewhere
(though if im wrong about your "attack" sry for that ;)  )

im interested to see MRs build but i cant T_T
July 29, 2010 11:50:53 PM

just drag the links to the url box
July 29, 2010 11:55:20 PM

all but the hdd are broken even when dragging the link (maybe its just me than :S)
July 30, 2010 12:04:30 AM

they are all working for me
July 30, 2010 1:18:45 PM

Sorry a1l3, it was not supposed to be an attack of any sorts. Perhaps directed would have been a better word :/ 
July 30, 2010 1:52:19 PM

mrhoshos96 said:
here is a build for $1,426.80 before rebates

cpu+mobo: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... (probably the most efficient and high quality mobo of the 890gx chipset also it can cf)

gpu+ram: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... (great gpu + ram combo both are very high quality)

psu: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (very high quality and cf)

hdd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

odd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

case: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... (best case for the money on the market)

os: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

monitor: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...


win!

two more quick things

- is there any difference btwn windows 7 home and professional?

also, does newegg have promo/savings codes?
July 30, 2010 5:04:14 PM

newegg has promo codes but afaik they only do promos for specific things pls someone correct me if im wrong

July 30, 2010 5:57:45 PM

no, I think that's right. I'll keep searching to save some dough.
July 30, 2011 7:14:08 PM

dmbphan041 said:
Also, I'm looking to crossfire eventually and upgrade the RAM to 8gb



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