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July 28, 2010 1:30:59 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within a month

BUDGET RANGE: 1000-1100 Before Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Moderate Gaming (WoW, CoD MW2, L4D, Maybe Crysis) web browsing, movies, music, light photoshop/illustrator use

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, OS, Speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg, open to suggestions

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States

PARTS PREFERENCES: I prefer the Radeon 5000 cards for dx11 and might want to mess with eyefinity a little down the road

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Crossfire in future

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: This budget includes the monitor

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CPU:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

159.99

MoBo:

ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

89.99

GPU:

SAPPHIRE 100282-3SR Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

284.99

or

XFX HD-587X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

379.99

Case:

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

54.99

PSU:

RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-530SS 530W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular LED Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

49.98

Do I need a bigger PSU for the crossfire expansion in the future?

Cooling:

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm Ceramic CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

28.99

Memory:

Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K2/4G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

94.99

Hard Drive:

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

55.99

Optical Drive:

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

22.99

Monitor:

ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1) Built in Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

189.99


If I'm forgetting anything please let me know. I need input and suggestions b/c I've never built my own computer before and have very limited knowedge about it. Thank you!


July 28, 2010 2:04:30 PM

Not that great of a build. You've got a good CPU, but went too cheap on everything else in the build. That PSU would be a POS and not enough to power two 5850s down the line.

I'd look into something like this:

CPU/GPU: X3 440 and HD 5870 $445
Mobo/Optical: Asus M4A78T-E and SATA DVD burner $114 after rebate. No USB 3/SATA III, so you could use that ASRock board you picked out with a cheap SATA DVD burner ($18)
RAM: G.Skill Eco 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $105
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $75
Case/PSU: Antec 900 and XFX 750W $145 after rebate
HSF: Sycthe SCMG-2100 $35
Monitor: Asus 23.6" 1080p $170 after rebate and promo code

Total: $1,089

I went lighter on the CPU because gaming doesn't really depend too much on the CPU's power. Using the savings from the CPU, I was able to fit in the 5870 and maintain quality across the board. I also included a larger case and PSU in order to fit the larger GPU and increased power demands of Crossfire as an upgrade option.
July 28, 2010 3:14:30 PM

This is where my lack of knowledge kicks in. I didn't really know the differences in motherboards especially and I figured the psu would need to be bigger but wasn't sure. I guess the case I picked would make the gpu get in the way of the hard drive bays?

And the CPU won't bottleneck that high end graphics card then? and I guess since it's AM3 I could upgrade to a 955 or better in the future?
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July 28, 2010 3:49:27 PM

Typically, you want to stay with Asus and Gigabyte for the motherboard. They're the most reliable and are generally higher quality. After that, MSI, EVGA and ASRock are the next best choices. Anything other than those should be avoided.

It's not just that the PSU is too small, it's also from a lower quality brand. RAIDMAX PSUs are absolute crap. You generally want to stay with the major brands (Corsiar, SeaSonic, Silverstone, XFX, Antec).

The X3 won't bottleneck the GPU. In fact, any recent CPU won't. Games are so dependent on the GPU now days that the CPU's impact on performance is bascially nothing. Also, the X3 could potentially be unlocked into a quad core. You definitely have a good upgrade path with the AM3 socket, so the potential issues are even lower.
July 28, 2010 4:00:53 PM

ok awesome. thanks for explaining! And I think I'll end up upgrading the cpu at some point in the next year and then add a 5870 when the prices come down a decent amount. I really want to try out the 3 monitor eyefinity though. It looks very cool.
July 28, 2010 6:53:21 PM

Any other suggestions or options? Or is there any way to get it down to 1000 total? Just trying to get the most for the money but still have quality parts although if it can't be cut anymore then thats fine. Just thought I'd ask for any other opinions

Thanks!
July 28, 2010 6:56:46 PM

You could knock $25 off by switching the case/PSU to this combo: Lian Li K62 and XFX 750W. After that, you're really looking at droping the 5870 to a 5850.
July 28, 2010 7:03:04 PM

Yea I'd rather not do that so I'll just live with it and see if any good deals come up on any of the parts over the next month. I think the 5870 is the way to go b/c the 5890 is just overkill and the 5850 would do fine I'm sure but I'm under the impression that to run eyefinity very well the 5870 is a must. I heard the crossfire and eyefinity have been buggy b/c of driver issues so the 5850 alone might not be enough power to play at decent settings on 3 1080p screens. Are my facts right?
July 28, 2010 7:07:03 PM

There is no 5890. I think you mean the 5970.

To run Eyefinity well, you'll need two 5870s in Crossfire or a single 5970. Anything less won't cut it. The 5970 is the only single card solution that can run Eyefinity with playable rates. To really do Eyefinity well, you'd need to be spending more in the $2,000 range (not counting the monitors).

As for driver issues, it might be a bit buggy, but it will get better over time. Each new driver improves it.
July 28, 2010 7:11:09 PM

Yes I meant 5970 sorry. I was thinking the 4000 series with the 4890. I guess I'll just stick with the one monitor then until I can get another 5870 but I think the 23.6" will be plenty to start with and that 5870 card is pretty awesome. Thank you for the quick responses and knowledge you've given me. It's helped a lot!
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