SAPPHIRE HD5970 TOXIC which os? help
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derkevevin
June 21, 2010 1:53:09 AM
Bahahahahahaha
Rolf a 600w psu with a 5970.
Get a QUALITY 850w-1000w psu that isn't metallic toilet paper and if you want DX11 get Vista or Win7 that is 64bit either wise common sense is lacking. Also what is the rest of your system? Note if it is a p4 or a socket 754/939 am1 cpu then you should consider a lower end card. By the way the 5970 is a little over 12 inches long (38cm~).
_orbital_
June 21, 2010 2:07:26 AM
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_orbital_
June 21, 2010 2:14:00 AM
nforce4max said:
Bahahahahahaha
Rolf a 600w psu with a 5970.
Get a QUALITY 850w-1000w psu that isn't metallic toilet paper and if you want DX11 get Vista or Win7 that is 64bit either wise common sense is lacking. Also what is the rest of your system? Note if it is a p4 or a socket 754/939 am1 cpu then you should consider a lower end card. By the way the 5970 is a little over 12 inches long (38cm~).
get vista???????? for that card????
commmmmmmon
derkevevin
June 21, 2010 3:13:42 AM
nforce4max said:
Bahahahahahaha
Rolf a 600w psu with a 5970.
Get a QUALITY 850w-1000w psu that isn't metallic toilet paper and if you want DX11 get Vista or Win7 that is 64bit either wise common sense is lacking. Also what is the rest of your system? Note if it is a p4 or a socket 754/939 am1 cpu then you should consider a lower end card. By the way the 5970 is a little over 12 inches long (38cm~).
if i would know all that i wouldnt ask, douche
but ive already said it will probably need a new supply and maybe too long to fit my sys.
so calm down
ive checked a
Sapphire Radeon HD5870 Toxic (PCI-e, 2GB GDDR5 Speicher, HDMI) Full Retail
for 534 €/$
,too.
better choise?
and my system:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001OD1I76/ref=s9_simh_...
look for info at bottom of the page, too.
_orbital_
June 21, 2010 10:33:10 AM
You people can't be serious about needing an 850W power supply and recommending a 1200W power supply. Stop messing with the guy seriously, unless you were actually serious.
I have a 5970 and luckily a tool to measure power consumption from the wall socket. My system with an i7 920 as the processor draws only 190W idle and a little over 400W when doing prime 95 and furmark at the same time. When playing games, it only eats around 260W.
In fact the box only recommends 650W for a single 5970 and 850W for crossfire. The manufacturer recommendations are really generous too. I would recommend that if you overclock heavily and that is what the manufacturers are trying to cover.
To check how many watts your power supply has, just look at the sticker. It should have power information across all the power rails. Though you may still need a better power supply. If you bought a computer from dell or HP, they are usually trast and has absolutely no surge protection because it is cheaper for them to make and warranty the failed computers over the warranty period rather than giving customers quality parts to last forever.
I have a 5970 and luckily a tool to measure power consumption from the wall socket. My system with an i7 920 as the processor draws only 190W idle and a little over 400W when doing prime 95 and furmark at the same time. When playing games, it only eats around 260W.
In fact the box only recommends 650W for a single 5970 and 850W for crossfire. The manufacturer recommendations are really generous too. I would recommend that if you overclock heavily and that is what the manufacturers are trying to cover.
To check how many watts your power supply has, just look at the sticker. It should have power information across all the power rails. Though you may still need a better power supply. If you bought a computer from dell or HP, they are usually trast and has absolutely no surge protection because it is cheaper for them to make and warranty the failed computers over the warranty period rather than giving customers quality parts to last forever.
derkevevin
June 21, 2010 11:41:09 AM
_orbital_ said:
your system doesn't support ddr3 ram, so that's a bit sad. well.. 5870 is single gpu and 5970 is dual, but if the drivers are good than 5970 all the way.
5870 toxic is a great card as well.. will run any game like nobody's bussines
well i know that 5970 has dual (and more gddr), but it doubles the price, too.
but which limitations do i have without ddr3 and so?
and does it work good on XP = Without DX10/11?
is 5870 smaller than 5970?
do you think it fits my System? how can i check that
derkevevin
June 21, 2010 12:17:05 PM
rofl_my_waffle said:
You people can't be serious about needing an 850W power supply and recommending a 1200W power supply. Stop messing with the guy seriously, unless you were actually serious.I have a 5970 and luckily a tool to measure power consumption from the wall socket. My system with an i7 920 as the processor draws only 190W idle and a little over 400W when doing prime 95 and furmark at the same time. When playing games, it only eats around 260W.
In fact the box only recommends 650W for a single 5970 and 850W for crossfire. The manufacturer recommendations are really generous too. I would recommend that if you overclock heavily and that is what the manufacturers are trying to cover.
To check how many watts your power supply has, just look at the sticker. It should have power information across all the power rails. Though you may still need a better power supply. If you bought a computer from dell or HP, they are usually trast and has absolutely no surge protection because it is cheaper for them to make and warranty the failed computers over the warranty period rather than giving customers quality parts to last forever.
i checked the side where i bought it and it has 600 watts like expected
and i wouldn´t throw it away because somebody says i need a 2000$pc to play my games.
i can still buy it if i have to.
derkevevin said:
if i would know all that i wouldnt ask, douchebut ive already said it will probably need a new supply and maybe too long to fit my sys.
so calm down
ive checked a
Sapphire Radeon HD5870 Toxic (PCI-e, 2GB GDDR5 Speicher, HDMI) Full Retail
for 534 €/$
,too.
better choise?
and my system:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001OD1I76/ref=s9_simh_...
look for info at bottom of the page, too.
NAB
derkevevin
June 21, 2010 1:14:41 PM
derkevevin
June 22, 2010 4:27:05 AM
mosox said:
Yep it works with any windows.What brand is the PSU?
What's the length of that case, it's a custom case I think, the 5970 is pretty long.
LE: It's 305mm long, check if it fits.
the case is 48,8 cm long
the problem is the hd bracket
about 1,5cm to short.
but i might cut them out with a file,
without loosing hd slots.
sounds a little harsh, but it doesn´t matter
because the surface looks better anyway
Oh, and the power supply is noname, but reliable.
Even in continuous operation, i never had problems with that.
derkevevin
June 22, 2010 5:34:40 AM
derkevevin
June 22, 2010 5:36:41 AM
derkevevin
June 22, 2010 5:52:44 AM
rofl_my_waffle said:
You people can't be serious about needing an 850W power supply and recommending a 1200W power supply. Stop messing with the guy seriously, unless you were actually serious.I have a 5970 and luckily a tool to measure power consumption from the wall socket. My system with an i7 920 as the processor draws only 190W idle and a little over 400W when doing prime 95 and furmark at the same time. When playing games, it only eats around 260W.
In fact the box only recommends 650W for a single 5970 and 850W for crossfire. The manufacturer recommendations are really generous too. I would recommend that if you overclock heavily and that is what the manufacturers are trying to cover.
To check how many watts your power supply has, just look at the sticker. It should have power information across all the power rails. Though you may still need a better power supply. If you bought a computer from dell or HP, they are usually trast and has absolutely no surge protection because it is cheaper for them to make and warranty the failed computers over the warranty period rather than giving customers quality parts to last forever.
The Toxic might not need 850w but it is recommended by the manufacturer. A 650w is not going to power up this card under load.
derkevevin
June 22, 2010 6:21:21 AM
OvrClkr said:
The 5970 toxic is too much card for your screen, you can spend 300.00$ on the GPU and get the same exact outcome.Buy a bigger screen before you go nuts spending over 1k on the GPU. Not sure if this is some sort of parody but it seems hilarious to me...
haha.do you mean full hd or something?
i can still get a nice flatscreen later, to improve the quality.
I want to play my games with max settings and nice frames.
or do, i have a serious lag in game/White screen?
_orbital_
June 22, 2010 11:53:01 AM
_orbital_
June 22, 2010 12:52:41 PM
wortwortwort
June 22, 2010 2:13:44 PM
If you don't get a semi-decent screen, that graphics card is a waste. Even something that isn't expensive, like this ASUS VH226H. After rebates, shipping and taxes, you get a 1920 x 1080 monitor for $180. That's the monitor I just ordered for a 5870 build and that was already bare minimum. There's also the Dell ST2410 for $189.99 plus shipping and taxes. I'm not going to say that you should buy something like the Dell 3007 WFP, but most people who buy a ~$1000 graphics card are going to at least get a good screen to watch it on.
Vnix
June 22, 2010 6:47:36 PM
rofl_my_waffle said:
You people can't be serious about needing an 850W power supply and recommending a 1200W power supply. Stop messing with the guy seriously, unless you were actually serious.I have a 5970 and luckily a tool to measure power consumption from the wall socket. My system with an i7 920 as the processor draws only 190W idle and a little over 400W when doing prime 95 and furmark at the same time. When playing games, it only eats around 260W.
In fact the box only recommends 650W for a single 5970 and 850W for crossfire. The manufacturer recommendations are really generous too. I would recommend that if you overclock heavily and that is what the manufacturers are trying to cover.
To check how many watts your power supply has, just look at the sticker. It should have power information across all the power rails. Though you may still need a better power supply. If you bought a computer from dell or HP, they are usually trast and has absolutely no surge protection because it is cheaper for them to make and warranty the failed computers over the warranty period rather than giving customers quality parts to last forever.
He was talking about HD5970 Toxic @ 900/1200(factory defaults), and simply 650 is not enough for this card.
A minimum of a quality 650watt can run a regular 5970 2GB at stock (750watt for user OC), but a Toxic 4GB edition will need a minimum of a quality 750watt power supply (850watt for additional user OC).
5970 stock - quality 650watt minimum
5970 OC - quality 750watt minimum
5970 toxic stock - quality 750watt minimum
5970 toxic OC - quality 850watt minimum
5970 stock - quality 650watt minimum
5970 OC - quality 750watt minimum
5970 toxic stock - quality 750watt minimum
5970 toxic OC - quality 850watt minimum
Vnix
June 22, 2010 7:48:48 PM
OvrClkr said:
I think the OP is confused, pairing up a 1k+ GPU on a 500$ system is going to cause a massive bottleneck from the get-go. He needs a new screen, new PSU, raise the CPU clock to at least 3Ghz and then he can think of installing that toxic (assuming it will fit in that case).
True, true...
derkevevin
June 23, 2010 12:14:00 AM
mosox said:
If he has the money for a HD5970, he has the money for a HD5870+a good monitor.no, i would safe more to buy a 5970.
the 5870, i can buy next month.
plus a monitor http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/pr...
or a PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
derkevevin
June 23, 2010 1:05:30 AM
OvrClkr said:
I think the OP is confused, pairing up a 1k+ GPU on a 500$ system is going to cause a massive bottleneck from the get-go. He needs a new screen, new PSU, raise the CPU clock to at least 3Ghz and then he can think of installing that toxic (assuming it will fit in that case).
OK
i have some more questions
Does it REALY work with XP now?
CPU overclocking?why? its not to slow, works between 20 and 30% in gtaiv.
And it NEVER reached 100%, jet.
here my sys. again: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001OD1I76/ref=s9_simh_...
read my last post about my money and new screen/psu
does it work now with my 600 watts psu, until i get a new one or something?
or doesnt it even start or may it cause damage to my system?
(please help me with this psu!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=1...
it would look badass with my sys. and it still has 60% 5 star rewiews, but the 1 stars
say it will burn my whole system/hood wtf???)
and What about newegg, are they shipping to germany, too?(maybe you know? can i pay in€?)
look at this board http://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=97580;PROVID=2028
(or on newegg) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
is it a good choise? (compatible?)
Do i have to reinstall my os or something when changing the main board?
i wanna crossfire!
does the toxic 5870(remember not 5970)
like my 4850?
ok, thats it...
for the moment
derkevevin
June 23, 2010 2:43:43 AM
mosox said:
Oops didn't read your second post just the first one with the 5970. The 5870 Toxic is about 257mm.BUYA!
25,7 cm fit without problems
you didnt build my pc or the graph. card,
but thank YOU
ok, so ill probably buy this card soon.
but i still have some questions about hardware and
possible issues with my sys.
look at my last post, if you want.
derkevevin said:
OKi have some more questions
Does it REALY work with XP now?
CPU overclocking?why? its not to slow, works between 20 and 30% in gtaiv.
And it NEVER reached 100%, jet.
here my sys. again: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001OD1I76/ref=s9_simh_...
read my last post about my money and new screen/psu
does it work now with my 600 watts psu, until i get a new one or something?
or doesnt it even start or may it cause damage to my system?
(please help me with this psu!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=1...
it would look badass with my sys. and it still has 60% 5 star rewiews, but the 1 stars
say it will burn my whole system/hood wtf???)
and What about newegg, are they shipping to germany, too?(maybe you know? can i pay in€?)
look at this board http://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=97580;PROVID=2028
(or on newegg) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
is it a good choise? (compatible?)
Do i have to reinstall my os or something when changing the main board?
i wanna crossfire!
does the toxic 5870(remember not 5970)
like my 4850?
ok, thats it...
for the moment
You have a lot to learn
You are trying to squeeze a v8 motor inside a Ford Fiesta
, its not going to work.A card of that caliber needs to be paired with a system that can take full advantage of its power. Buy a bigger screen, something like a 24" BenQ or equivalent @ 1920x 1080, then get yourself a nice 750w PSU and then opt for the video card.
The card works fine in XP, but if you are going to spend that much money you might as well update the OS. No point in running a DX11 card in XP.
derkevevin
June 23, 2010 7:28:23 AM
OvrClkr said:
You have a lot to learn
You are trying to squeeze a v8 motor inside a Ford Fiesta
, its not going to work.A card of that caliber needs to be paired with a system that can take full advantage of its power. Buy a bigger screen, something like a 24" BenQ or equivalent @ 1920x 1080, then get yourself a nice 750w PSU and then opt for the video card.
The card works fine in XP, but if you are going to spend that much money you might as well update the OS. No point in running a DX11 card in XP.
?
i´ve listet some hardware i could get above?
a main board
a psu
and a screen
didnt you read?
derkevevin
June 23, 2010 1:54:18 PM
mosox said:
here it is:http://www.hoh.de/Hardware/Grafik-/Video-/TV-Karten/ATI...
http://www.hoh.de/Hardware/Netzteile/700-1000-Watt/Ante...
+ a monitor
psu
http://www.hoh.de/LC-Power-LC8750-Metatron-Prophecy-750...
screen
http://www.hoh.de/Monitore/610-cm-24/Samsung/Samsung-SM...
and maybe this board
http://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=97580;PROVID=2028
what do you think?
Thanks for deutschen shop
Vnix
June 23, 2010 3:27:54 PM
choose another PSU, and mobo. screen should be enough.
- I can recommend you this power supply:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/OCZ-Gold-SLI-Ready-Active-Modul...
-And this motherboard:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GA-EX58-UD5-GA-X58A-UD...
- I can recommend you this power supply:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/OCZ-Gold-SLI-Ready-Active-Modul...
-And this motherboard:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GA-EX58-UD5-GA-X58A-UD...
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3221/pict0024f.jpg
If you can fit this than you will be ok since this card that I got is the same size as the 5970.
If you can fit this than you will be ok since this card that I got is the same size as the 5970.
derkevevin
June 23, 2010 9:46:30 PM
mosox said:
What are you doing with that mobo? Your CPU doesn't work in that.? because its made for i7?
does it only work with a i7 cpu?
well then i should pick another.
maybe you can help me again? (and maybe on a german side, again?
)and if you know about mobo´s
do you know how many gr.cards i can (and/or) should use for crossfire?
and does the 5870 toxic like my 4850?
or is it to "toxic"?
thanks!
Vnix
June 23, 2010 9:52:42 PM
derkevevin said:
? because its made for i7?does it only work with a i7 cpu?
well then i should pick another.
maybe you can help me again? (and maybe on a german side, again?
)and if you know about mobo´s
do you know how many gr.cards i can (and/or) should use for crossfire?
and does the 5870 toxic like my 4850?
or is it to "toxic"?
thanks!
for CF it is not necessary to be exactly the same card, but it should be 5800 series.
derkevevin
June 23, 2010 11:02:19 PM
Vnix said:
choose another PSU, and mobo. screen should be enough.- I can recommend you this power supply:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/OCZ-Gold-SLI-Ready-Active-Modul...
-And this motherboard:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GA-EX58-UD5-GA-X58A-UD...
well the psu seems to be good, but its expansive, too.
how many pci-e "slots" does it have?
i found it on a german side, too.
http://computer.hitmeister.de/energieversorgung/oczz850...
is it crossfire ready too, or only sli?
and the board is too expansive,
i dont already need a high end board, i think and then
again this "compatible: cpu i7 extreme" thing. wtf?
are they stupid?
but this one is like made for me, i think:
http://www.hoh.de/default.aspx?TY=item&ST=1&IT=119220&C...
it has the most pro`s of your board, too and usb 3.0
you may search it for an english describtion
Vnix
June 24, 2010 8:47:30 AM
derkevevin said:
well the psu seems to be good, but its expansive, too.how many pci-e "slots" does it have?
i found it on a german side, too.
http://computer.hitmeister.de/energieversorgung/oczz850...
is it crossfire ready too, or only sli?
and the board is too expansive,
i dont already need a high end board, i think and then
again this "compatible: cpu i7 extreme" thing. wtf?
are they stupid?
but this one is like made for me, i think:
http://www.hoh.de/default.aspx?TY=item&ST=1&IT=119220&C...
it has the most pro`s of your board, too and usb 3.0
you may search it for an english describtion
When it is SLi ready, then of course it is CF ready
, if we dont count the 5970 Toxic, which needs 2x 8pin connection for proper power usage. It may have a higher price but you can count on it. Better to have tougher power supply, than fried computer
-Motherboard that i recommended is same price (236 Euros, to be more precise) as the last one you posted so...
derkevevin
June 24, 2010 4:36:28 PM
Vnix said:
When it is SLi ready, then of course it is CF ready
, if we dont count the 5970 Toxic, which needs 2x 8pin connection for proper power usage. It may have a higher price but you can count on it. Better to have tougher power supply, than fried computer
-Motherboard that i recommended is same price (236 Euros, to be more precise) as the last one you posted so...
ok, but if i buy a good psu, i want it ready for the next
cards. i dont think that ati will need 4x 8 pin(or are they stupid?)
but i think i should have more.
i dont need 20 different hd cables instead.
and what about short circuit protection,
will it safe my system in 5 years? or doesnt help it at all?
and if i buy a 1000w for example, is it only at 1000w when the sys. needs it,
or does it only waste all the time?
about the mobo (sounds like hobo
) i expectet a price about 290 € because i thougt the pound has a higher value,
and the asus is still cheaper
and this "compatible: cpu i7 extreme" wtf - thing,now?
i think this psu mobo thing will take a while...
Kevin
derkevevin
June 24, 2010 7:11:29 PM
mosox said:
Don't buy a mobo you don't need it. If you buy a new mobo you'll need to change the CPU and the RAM. You only need a PSU, a better video card and a monitor.whats wrong with my cpu?
ok my ram is only ddr2. but can i still use it with better ddr3 together?
maybe i dont have to buy a new mobo
but i need it for crossfire, and MORE ram.
the current only has only two ddr (2) ram slots.
and they only detect 3,5gb (of4) ram.
of course i want a mobo that detects all my fcking memory...
system details at bottom of this side:
http://redirectingat.com/?id=1402X558040&xs=1&url=http%...
maybe you look at my last questions, too.
(for example DO I HAVE TO REINSTALL OS, WITH A NEW MOBO???)
Kevin
derkevevin
May 31, 2011 4:54:29 AM
hehe
hey guys
remember me?
wanna know what i bought and what i didnt buy?
well
i have a new monitor still a fat old one xD but its bigger (screen, and the wight is about 25kg
)
AND
i have a new graphics card of course
i kept looking for the 5870 toxic but it was like
aliens came and took it away because human race is not ready for that technology xP
anyways, when searching for it ati released new generations, the 6000 series
and there were new sapphire toxic editions o.0
finally there was 6870 and 6890
i took the
Sapphire HD 6870 TOXIC 1GB
WITH ->970(!!!!!!!!)fricken Megahertz<- !!! ;///
-even faster then the 5870/5890 and every other card ive seen yet ;/
i didnt change mainboardcpu psu or anything else (running fine with 600w)
first i had it on win XP, then on win7 32/64bit
ok, i think i could get more power with more ram, better mainboard cpu and stuff,
but i can play most games on max settings with no problems
and in the end i didnt pay 2000$ for it
the new card was just 209€ btw! great price, huh?
comp was 535€ -about 65€ for HD 4850 +209€ = 679€ ;/
k then guys, thanks for helping and stuff
greetings,
derkevevin
hey guys
remember me?
wanna know what i bought and what i didnt buy?
well
i have a new monitor still a fat old one xD but its bigger (screen, and the wight is about 25kg
)AND
i have a new graphics card of course
i kept looking for the 5870 toxic but it was like
aliens came and took it away because human race is not ready for that technology xP
anyways, when searching for it ati released new generations, the 6000 series
and there were new sapphire toxic editions o.0
finally there was 6870 and 6890
i took the
Sapphire HD 6870 TOXIC 1GB
WITH ->970(!!!!!!!!)fricken Megahertz<- !!! ;///
-even faster then the 5870/5890 and every other card ive seen yet ;/
i didnt change mainboardcpu psu or anything else (running fine with 600w)
first i had it on win XP, then on win7 32/64bit
ok, i think i could get more power with more ram, better mainboard cpu and stuff,
but i can play most games on max settings with no problems
and in the end i didnt pay 2000$ for it
the new card was just 209€ btw! great price, huh?comp was 535€ -about 65€ for HD 4850 +209€ = 679€ ;/
k then guys, thanks for helping and stuff
greetings,
derkevevin
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