5870 vs 5870

[houdinii]

ok looking at a bunch of 5870s and wow didnt know there where that many different ones.

first question 1g vs 2g does it help frame rates or resolution or what.

theres two 2gb 5870s --- asus 2gb 900 clock $520 --- sapphire vapor x 2gb 850 clock $480
and the two fastest 1gb where --- giga 1gb 950 clock $500 --- hih 1gb 900 clock $500

now to me it looks like price to performance the sapphire 2gb 850 clock for $480 wins what do you think??


i saw my friends ffxiv benchmark and said OMG the 5770s (one now one later) i was going to get wasn't going to cut it for my standards so im dropping to a different mobo and droping 1 hd (getting later on) to pay for this card instead of the 5770s

 

[solidnickel]

I think the GTX 480 wins hands down at the price range...

The 5770's rock for the price though! 300 dollars for those 2 cards will get you past one 400.00 5870 if you OC the vcore to 1030 and memory to 1300

I am happy with my GTX 480's SLI by far, im kinda bored actually, no games can even challenge them

The extra ram will only help if you are running eyefinity on the 2gb cards

 

[houdinii]

and its the regular 2g cards not those weird 6 screen mini 2g cards if that even makes a difference.

 

[Misko195]

1Gb ram is enough, 2Gb, yes if you ran in eyefinity but for that price go for 2Gb.

About these card take ASUS, is manufactory overclocked at 900Mhz Or good option is to go with two HD 5770. For 350$ you got performance like HD 5870

And never buy card for overclocking, overclock it only if need it.

 

[ragingmercenary]

At the $500 price point, it gets unreliable. In many games, the 480 comes out on top of the 5870, but only at higher resolutions and with graphics settings maxed out. For most games, however, if you run it at lower resolutions with not the highest settings, the 5870 will almost always beat the 480. In addition, the 480 also uses a lot more power at both idle and full load, so you have to keep that in consideration as well, depending on what power supply you have.

 

[solidnickel]

1Gb ram is enough, 2Gb, yes if you ran in eyefinity but for that price go for 2Gb.

About these card take ASUS, is manufactory overclocked at 900Mhz Or good option is to go with two HD 5770. For 350$ you got performance like HD 5870

And never buy card for overclocking, overclock it only if need it.

Correction, "never buy a card for overclocking if you do not know what you are doing" I added 2 4770 Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 Rev.2 to my 2 5770's and the temps never went past 79 using furmark.

If you are spending close to 500 dollars, go with the GTX 480 even though you dont have alot of overclocking head room, it has many more advantages then the ATI 5000 series at that price range.

 

[solidnickel]

At the $500 price point, it gets unreliable. In many games, the 480 comes out on top of the 5870, but only at higher resolutions and with graphics settings maxed out. For most games, however, if you run it at lower resolutions with not the highest settings, the 5870 will almost always beat the 480. In addition, the 480 also uses a lot more power at both idle and full load, so you have to keep that in consideration as well, depending on what power supply you have.

I agree and hopefully the OP understands that even a 5870 1gb card is overkill for a resolution under 1920x1200 or (1080p) much less a 5870 2gb card

 

[houdinii]

the screen its going to be plugged into is a asus 24in 1920 x 1080 75/80 KHz refresh hd lcd

i play wow mostly but my goal for this computer is ffxiv and i see a lot of computers off the benchmark with 57xx cards and a x4 amd or i7 920 only scoring to play on medium settings and a 58xx card on high but with some lag.

i don't want the lag.


so for that stuff your saying the evga 480 super clocked will be better than the 5870 but only on high?

 

[ragingmercenary]

Neither WoW nor FFxiv are the most demanding games graphics wise, so you would be fine with the 5870 on any setting at the resolution that your monitor has.

 

[houdinii]

idk the heat and power consumption of the 480 is pretty high for the small looking performance increase.

i looked at a few bench marks and the 480 and 5870 where even one won some games the other won other games.

 

[houdinii]

i think whats getting me in the decision is the 480 sucks when theres not much going on but it kicks in when theres a lot going on. now does that mean lvling in an mmo there equal but in a raid with special efects and shadows on ultra high the 480 will win out??

 

[ragingmercenary]

Like I said before, the games that you play are not the most demanding games, and either card will handle them well at their highest settings in any context. That said, you could save some money and buy a 5850, which will also perform very well, probably just as well as the 5870 or 480 in MMOs, and save some money. The reason that I say this is that you see in benchmarks that the 5870 and 480 will have higher frame rates than the 5850, but since they all produce more than 60 fps, any difference above that will not be noticeable in gameplay. I would recommend the 5850 for your purposes.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150477

 

[houdinii]

looking at 2 5870s

one is 2gb 850 core clock/1200MHz effective memory clock

one is 1gb 950 core clock/5000MHz effective memory clock.

what one performs better on a single monitor (stats listed in previous post) and how does effective memory clock effect anything or is it just for overclockers. at 950 core clock can gigas soc cooling system compair to his or vapor x or will this thing be fast then super hot and blow up. (antec 1200 case)

both of those are almost the same price as a 480 (yes i know) but i don't think the 480 is worth taking a chance on, im reading a lot about games hatting or loving it but all games love the 5870.

 

[notty22]

If anyone is interested.
A 350 dollar 5870 shipped.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161329&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3891137&SID=194r0
10% off w/ promo code VGA061710

 

[ragingmercenary]

The one gig card would perform better because of the higher clock speeds. With one monitor, 2 gigs of graphics memory is overkill.

 

[ashkaji]

If anyone is interested.
A 350 dollar 5870 shipped.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161329&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3891137&SID=194r0
10% off w/ promo code VGA061710

Of course! Right after I order my XFX. Literally next day >:[ lol