banthracis said:
That's completely false. Temps are much higher than stock 5870 on both idle and load.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_48...
Further, fan noise is quite higher on load and idle
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_48...
Further, idle power is nearly double, load nearly 90 watts more.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_48...
Performance per watt is 40% behind a 5870
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_48...
Further, due to it's high price, performance per dollar is horrendous, 20% behind a 5870.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_48...
Finally, it's 13% average performance increase over a 5870, 5% over stock 480 for 35% price increase over stock 5870, 13% price increase over stock 480.
Complete waste of money.
Do your research and don't make stuff up.
In addition, it doesn't matter if he's using a zotac 480, his current build won't be able to use that GPU's full potential. He'll run into the aforementioned bottlenecks first.
Why did you use the worst Zotac Amp review on the web to argue your case with?
The guys at TechPowerup are ATI fan boys. Their opinions and results are going to be skewed.
Your points for argument are void and null because that review is approaching 2.5 months old. Of course the price per performance chart is going to be in favor of an old card that has been out for a almost a year, of course the GTX card is going to be priced higher the month of it's debut. But oh wait! I bought mine for $499 just this month, and that's the exact same price as the 5870 2GB card (or less vs certain brands), and why do I compare it to the 2GB card? Because the GTX card has 50% more memory on it than the standard 5870 card, so why not actually compare apples to apples here why don't we? Looking at it from this point of view, the 5870 card suddenly DROPS far behind the GTX card in price/performance. OMG STATISTICS 101!
My point here is that review is highly biased towards the 5870. Everything about it. Fan noise? I CAN'T HEAR A THING coming from my zotac card until the fans are running at at least 75% speed... which they never even get to because the card doesn't get hot enough to warrant the software to turn them up! My Zotac card will not pass 78c no matter what I do to push it. OCCT GPU, 3Dmark, nothing, running at 100% load and maximum power consumption will make my card get past 78c. I call bullsheet on techPowerUp and their temps, their card was either broken or they are lying. Their review of the card doesn't even resemble any other Zotac 480 amp review on the web. Their admittance of a 13% overall performance increase over the 5870 is actually a pretty big difference. But it gets better! I'm overclocking my zotac card at 900MHz core and 1100MHz memory speed at default voltages 100% stable... at 78c max temps full load. That's a full 16.6% overclock on top of the overclock it comes with out of the box. Suddenly this card is 26% faster than the 5870 considering equal scaling, and what just happened to that price/performance chart now? LOL.
Of course it uses more wattage than the 5870 you moron. It's got a bigger engine. It goes FASTER. Who cares? You think the guy that owns a corvette cares his neighbor is getting better gas mileage than him with his Toyota corolla? Stupid argument.
"Further, fan noise is quite higher on load and idle"... OGM, first of all you are claiming 4db is "QUITE HIGHER" (is that even english?). You couldn't tell the difference side by side with a 4db change. Don't be retarded. Secondly techPowerUp just further shows their lazy failure methods by publishing idle fan noise with fans running at full speed. This is just so damn stupid I can't even comment further on that screw up. You not realizing this and using it to back your argument affirms you are no less a monkey brain.
You have got to be a Liberal Democrat by your thinking. Am I right?