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October 3, 2010 12:15:17 AM

Hi,

I have a Velocity Micro Gamer's Edge PCX machine that I bought about 4 years ago. It's great, but lately, I've notice that I'm not getting the best performance from some of the newer games, so I was thinking about upgrading.

I'm running Windows 7, and the Windows Experience Index is indicating the two bottlenecks on my machine are the Processor and the RAM.

Motherboard: nForce 680i SLI, SOcket 775, PCI-E, DDR2
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, dual 2.4 GHx cores, 4MB L2 cache.
RAM: 2048MB Corsair DDR2 PC 5300 DDR667 (2x1024)
CPU Cooling: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Heatsink, Ultra Quiet Fan, Copper Heat Pipes, plus Artic Silver 5 Thermal Compound

All of that is from the invoice, but I'm not a hardware expert. I'm not sure what CPU's my motherboard can support, or what kind/how much RAM it can take. And I am afraid I will buy something incompatible by mistake.

Basically, I have 2 questions:
1) Should I go by the Windows Experience data and update my CPU and RAM?
2) If so, what CPU should I get, and what RAM should I buy to give me the best bang for my buck?
a c 105 à CPUs
October 3, 2010 12:25:17 AM

1. what video card do you have?
2. what is your monitor's native resolution?
3. what new games are giving you trouble?
4. what PSU do you have?
5. upgrade your RAM to 4GB
6. have you tried to Over Clock your CPU?

to answer your questions
1. windows experience is useless
2. depends on your budget and your answers to the above questions
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October 3, 2010 12:27:13 AM

the cpu and ram are indeed bottlenecks, you need 2x2048MB DDR2 ram, you also need a better cpu, see if you can get me more info on your board so i can make a educated choice on which cpu to recommend


^what he said
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Anonymous
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October 3, 2010 5:41:06 PM

ct1615 said:
1. what video card do you have?
2. what is your monitor's native resolution?
3. what new games are giving you trouble?
4. what PSU do you have?
5. upgrade your RAM to 4GB
6. have you tried to Over Clock your CPU?

to answer your questions
1. windows experience is useless
2. depends on your budget and your answers to the above questions


1) nVidia 9800GTX
2) I have dual monitors, 1280x1024
3) Right now, Civilization V. But I also don't get a great framerate from Champions Online.
4) 700 Watt Seasonic M12 Modular PSU 80Plus certified SLI-Ready
5) Just 4? I was thinking of going higher so I don't have to upgrade for a while. :)  But anyway, I'm not sure what kind of RAM my motherboard will accept or how to find out.
6) No.

The motherboard is an nVidia, model #180-7R093-000-B00
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October 3, 2010 6:47:53 PM

1) the Nvidia 9800GTX is fine for 1280x1024. Civ V though really likes new Nvidia cards, GTS 450 and above. Champions online really like a quad.

We were surprised at how poorly the GeForce GTX 200 series performed, while the GeForce GTX 400 series dominated its Radeon competition. As it stands, the GeForce GTX 400 series is far superior to the Radeon HD 5000 series when playing Civilization V. Meanwhile, the Radeon HD 4000 cards dominated the GeForce GTX 200 line in all of our tests.

http://www.techspot.com/review/320-civilization-v-perfo...

In all honesty, to run the game with maxed visuals you need a fast quad core and a GeForce GTX 285 or ATI Radeon HD 4890. Seriously. Even then you'll see a stutter or two and some LOD-popping as you move around but at least the action during normal fights runs as it should.
Champions Online Graphics Review
http://www.yougamers.com/gameometer/10350/
http://www.yougamers.com/reviews/25533_champions_online...

2) your mobo can use 800 MHz DDR2 RAM and 4GB is plenty of memory. By the time you need more, you would need to replace your mobo.

3) if you live near a microcenter, the q9300 would be a nice upgrade for you
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

otherwise you can OC your CPU, check Toms OC forum for articles and help

4) GPU wise you are OK; ATI 5770, Nvidia GTS 450 or GTX 460 768mb could give your graphics a nice kick after a CPU upgrade.
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October 3, 2010 6:51:54 PM

The E6600 is a great overclocker. The 680i isn't that great of a mobo, but you should be able to hit 3.0GHz without too much trouble. Then it would be almost as fast as an E8400 and should work well with a 5770, GTX460, etc
Anonymous
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October 4, 2010 1:45:01 AM

Just ran CPU-Z to find out what my mainboard is.
EVGA Model NF68

So will a Core2quad be compatible?
Should I be concerned about cooling?
Is it difficult to install? I'm installed a video card and RAM, but I've never installed a CPU before. :) 
Anonymous
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October 4, 2010 2:03:16 AM

I found the manual!

Okay, the full model number is 122-CK-NF68-AR.
It says here I have 4 1.8V 240-pin slots for DDR2 memory. So I have two empty Dimm slots right now. Would it be better to get 2 more 1 GB Dimms? Do I need to worry about the new Dimms being compatible with the existing ones? Are all DDR2 Dimms the same, or are there variations in speed?
Anonymous
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October 4, 2010 3:11:23 PM

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best scenario - 4GB (2x2GB) sticks running in dual channel mode.
ddr2 pc2-6400 800hmz


So like this? :) 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So you don't think it's worth it to get any faster than that? Even if I upgrade my CPU?
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