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Does pentium dual core e6800 (3.33) suck?

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October 5, 2010 9:04:26 PM

i'm very poor but horny to upgrade so my choices are:
1. pentium dual core e6800 with evga gtx 460 or
2. i5-760 with asrok h55m and geil black dragon 2gb
but have to use old sapphire hd3870
the games i play with lag are assassin's creed 2, the sims 3

p.s. my old cpu is core 2 duo e6300 (1.86)
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October 5, 2010 9:39:48 PM

first thing first, are you sure your board supports the 45nm E6800?

i would say if compatible, get the gtx460 and the e6800
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October 5, 2010 10:33:16 PM

Don't get the E6800 - it has a fast clock speed but the cache is too low. You're better off get ing a cheaper E5x00 or E6x00 series and overclocking it. They make great overclockers. For slightly more than the price of a new E6800, you can get a used 65nm Core2Quad such as the Q6600, which would be way better.
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October 5, 2010 10:59:09 PM

I'd buy the g460 and over clock your processor.

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October 6, 2010 12:05:42 AM

no sucking at all
if you do not overclock
it is a good Idea as it is fast and quite cheap
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October 6, 2010 2:43:10 AM

Overclock your 65nm C2D E6300 to 2.8Ghz or more. It's a great chip for overclocking.
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October 6, 2010 6:40:45 AM

thank you. i'm worried if i buy e6800, it still lags. do you think so?
i used to oc e6300 to 4.0 ghz. with my dfi dark s.
for almost 4 years.
one day i saw a spark on the mobo area near cpu then
smoke floated and the smell is really bad but the cpu is still usable.
my precious dfi dark is gone and i end up using the unclockable
intel dg41rq.
this spark happens to my core 2 duo e6700 (es) too and
asus commando mobo. but my e6700 is not so lucky.
if i play games , it will freeze within 30 minutes results in hard boot.
i thought cpu could stand anything but i was wrong.
i don't think i'm gonna oc anymore.
sorry for the story but if you think cache size matters much,
do you also think the number of die transistors matters too?
e6800 has only 228 millions.
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October 6, 2010 7:17:26 AM

Bluescreendeath said:
Don't get the E6800 - it has a fast clock speed but the cache is too low. You're better off get ing a cheaper E5x00 or E6x00 series and overclocking it.

What? All the Wolfdale E6000's have 2 MB of cache. The E5200's only have 1 MB. And although the original E6X00 Core2's have more cache, you should be able to OC a Wolfdale E6800 fast enough to more than compensate for its smaller cache.
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October 6, 2010 10:02:01 AM

Thank you JSC. I was thinking to myself the cache is to low but he said get a 5200???

And I thought the 5200 has the same 2MBs L2 cache?
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October 6, 2010 1:57:11 PM

model said:
thank you. i'm worried if i buy e6800, it still lags. do you think so?
i used to oc e6300 to 4.0 ghz. with my dfi dark s.
for almost 4 years.
one day i saw a spark on the mobo area near cpu then
smoke floated and the smell is really bad but the cpu is still usable.
my precious dfi dark is gone and i end up using the unclockable
intel dg41rq.
this spark happens to my core 2 duo e6700 (es) too and
asus commando mobo. but my e6700 is not so lucky.
if i play games , it will freeze within 30 minutes results in hard boot.
i thought cpu could stand anything but i was wrong.
i don't think i'm gonna oc anymore.
sorry for the story but if you think cache size matters much,
do you also think the number of die transistors matters too?
e6800 has only 228 millions.


4Ghz? I doubt there's too much of need for that. Rather than sacrificing safety, keep it to 3ghz-ish and then go buy a 460. GPU matters far too much in gaming than CPU and 460 would go a long way.
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October 6, 2010 2:45:20 PM

jsc said:
What? All the Wolfdale E6000's have 2 MB of cache. The E5200's only have 1 MB. And although the original E6X00 Core2's have more cache, you should be able to OC a Wolfdale E6800 fast enough to more than compensate for its smaller cache.


E5200s have 2mb of cache just like most of the E6x00 C2D series.

What I was saying is, there's no point in paying more for a E6800 when he can get the E5x00/earlier E6x00 series for cheaper. They all have 2mb of cache and they're easily overclockable to make up for the difference.

The OP should just try overclocking the C2D E6300 to 2.8 or something and save money for a new build.
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October 6, 2010 9:03:15 PM

You're both right. I just checked my E5200 box. Could have sworn it said 1 MB. :( 
And I double checked new egg. :( :( 

Big advantage of the E5200 is the 200 MHz FSB freq. Works great in a G'byte G41M-ES2L.

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October 7, 2010 7:13:21 AM

@bluescreendeath the e6800 is around 100 bucks including tax.
do you think if i buy used q6700 for 130 bucks, it'll be better?
a seller said he'll take it out from his hewlett desktop.
it's been used for 3 years.
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October 7, 2010 10:21:30 AM

$130 is a bit high for a Q6700. I see the Q6600 going for $100 all the time on used forums, I can't imagine that little bump in speed is worth an extra $30/30%. It would be better then the E6800 once you OC it to 3GHz.
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October 7, 2010 10:38:49 AM

well that depends if you are getting a Q6700
(which I have never seen although not saying it does not exist it likely does ;)  )
or a Qx6700 which is an extreme processor which will go to 3ghz like snapping your fingers
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October 7, 2010 1:33:32 PM

The E5 series are great overclockers - I am typing on this one which does 3.8 easy ... but I run it at 3.46 normally.

Castrated Wolfies are cheap and grunty when you push them.

If it smokes up who cares?

Cost less than two cartons of beer.
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October 7, 2010 7:05:05 PM

reynods right
I have my wofldale e5300 @ 4 GHZ and was easy with a freezer pro 7
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October 8, 2010 2:32:55 AM

model said:
@bluescreendeath the e6800 is around 100 bucks including tax.
do you think if i buy used q6700 for 130 bucks, it'll be better?
a seller said he'll take it out from his hewlett desktop.
it's been used for 3 years.


Yep, it would be much better.

The Q8400 @ 2.66Ghz goes for $170ish new. A Q6700 for 130 used is a fairly decent price, since the Q6x00 series can overclock better than the Q8x00 series. You can hit 3.6GHz+ with a Q6700.
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October 9, 2010 10:46:26 AM

Plus the Q6700 has 8Mb of cache and a low (266 / 1066) FSB so it is easy to overclock with a crap mobo / ram combo.

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October 24, 2010 1:40:15 PM

thank you guys. i called him and he asks for 120 bucks for q6700
it's from his dell desktop not hewlett so he said he never overclock
this cpu and he doesn't know how to overclock either.

now i can get gtx460 but my little sister saw me bought it,
she took my gtx460.

so i ran to mom and complain about her. she gave me 300 bucks.
what should i buy for 300 bucks graphic card? should i wait for
something sexy?
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October 24, 2010 11:34:42 PM

6870
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November 4, 2010 5:38:35 PM

Best answer selected by model.
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December 31, 2010 9:24:51 PM

model said:
thank you guys. i called him and he asks for 120 bucks for q6700
it's from his dell desktop not hewlett so he said he never overclock
this cpu and he doesn't know how to overclock either.

now i can get gtx460 but my little sister saw me bought it,
she took my gtx460.

so i ran to mom and complain about her. she gave me 300 bucks.
what should i buy for 300 bucks graphic card? should i wait for
something sexy?


Talk about luck :/  if that happend to me i would just kick my sister's butt and get my card back XD

Anyway for $300 I would say get a radeon hd 6950 i heard you can flash them to become a 6970 too!
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