AMD $1100 budget game PC

[Civer]

Hello everyone!

I have been searching the webs, reading articles about amd/intel/nvidea and ati alot the last week. I think about 8-10 hours a day I live in the netherlands and I have to conclude that the products here are a bit higher priced then elsewhere.

I have assembled my own computer also with the help of a dutch forum I would just like to get a double check to see how it holds up Here it comes:

Case:
CM 690 II Advanced (RC-692-KKN2-GP)

Motherboard:
MSI 870A-G54 - moederbord - ATX - AMD 870

CPU:
AMD Black Edition AMD Phenom II X4 955 / 3.2 GHz
CPU cooler:
Scythe Mugen 2 rev.B SCMG-2100
RAm:
Corsair XMS3 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB - 1600MHz - CL7

GPU:
1gb Gigabyte GTX 460 (GV-N460OC-1GI)

PSU:
OCZ StealthXStream voeding - 600 Watt

HD:
Samsung SpinPoint F3 Desktop Class HD103SJ - vaste schijf - 1 TB - SATA-300

I didn't think getting 2 1gb gtx 460 were possible and I think I'll have enough in 1 overclocked 1gb card in a while. If I decide to get them in SLI (maybe for next pc) I atleast allready have 1. Or I could get a higher PSU and stuffs so I could get sli with this pc when I feel like buying another 210 euro's card.

My rig is mainly for gaming but I don't want to invest like 50% of the budget purely in my videocards. I also like a good working processor.

I read an article that AMD uses the phenom II x4 processor to make their x3 and x2 aswell. And that is was possible to unlock a x2 or x3 into the real x4 it really is. That is however only possible if the x2/x3 wasn't a defect x4 of wich only 2 or 3 cores still worked.

ANYHOOOO give me your thoughts and ideas and in the mean time I'll read more articles and builds on this forum

 

[Civer]

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[Civer]

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[Civer]

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/288311-13-homebuilt-buying-guide

$95-$110
AMD Phenom II X2 555
Only for overclockers and those looking to unlock the disabled cores. Otherwise look into the X3 440. Clocked high and has the added benefit of L3 cache and an unlocked multiplier. Not a good choice for multitasking, but works well for some games. Good overclocker. May potentially be unlocked into a quad core.

 

[Lmeow]

Could you please fill out the form in my signature? It will help a lot. (Homebrew Template)

Your build is pretty good though. I'm not sure if you know this, but that motherboard doesn't support SLI, like three AM3 boards do. The Asus M4N98TD Evo, MSI NF750-G55 & MSI NF980-G65 (none have SATA III or USB 3.0 support though).
I would go for a better PSU such as ones made by Corsair like the Corsair HX650W (modular cabling) or TX650W (non-modular).

You are right with the AMD Phenom II core disabling - it also happens on the Athlon II X3/X4 (sometimes the Athlon II X4 is really just a Phenom II X4 with disabled L3 cache).

You should be able to edit your posts, I am assuming you are on the UK website? If so then you can quick edit, the black page with the lightning bolt through it.

 

[batuchka]

At your budget and far less i would really go with at least one beefy HD 5870 ^^

 

[Civer]

The GTX 460's Are really good for overclocking since they keep so cool? And I could actually afford those in SLI

I could get 2 gtx 460's for the price of 1 HD 5870

The version I desire; The GigaByte (brand) gpu is very easily overclockable 22% is no feat from 715 to 870Mhz. The Zotac card reaches 26% but is more expensive and the toal Mhz is lower 850Mhz that is because they keep the stock MHz which is 675MHz

I could afford 2 gigabyte 1gb gtx 460 later on

 

[Civer]

Could you please fill out the form in my signature? It will help a lot. (Homebrew Template)

Your build is pretty good though. I'm not sure if you know this, but that motherboard doesn't support SLI, like three AM3 boards do. The Asus M4N98TD Evo, MSI NF750-G55 & MSI NF980-G65 (none have SATA III or USB 3.0 support though).
I would go for a better PSU such as ones made by Corsair like the Corsair HX650W (modular cabling) or TX650W (non-modular).

You are right with the AMD Phenom II core disabling - it also happens on the Athlon II X3/X4 (sometimes the Athlon II X4 is really just a Phenom II X4 with disabled L3 cache).

You should be able to edit your posts, I am assuming you are on the UK website? If so then you can quick edit, the black page with the lightning bolt through it.

I see I could save money with a cheaper but unlockable CPU (what version do u reccomend?)

To get an SLI MoBo and a other Psu. what isnt good about this one? And uhm dont I need more Watt if I get a 2nd GPU (in the future)

 

[Lmeow]

I'd personally go with the Phenom II X4 945, 955 BE if you intend to overclock. I would only buy a Phenom II X2 if I needed a dual core - if it truly is a defective chip then you're stuck with a dual core.

650W = more than enough for GTX 460 SLI. If you want an SLI motherboard I would go for the MSI NF980-G65. The OCZ StealthXStream is not bad but I'd go for a higher quality PSU like ones made by Corsair.

Out for the night.

 

[Godspeed409]

I like your build, but why not spend the $15-20 extra bones and get a Radeon HD 5850? I bought one for $249 from Newegg last week on sale and its flat out better than the GTX 460. If you were planning on doing SLI with this computer, thats one thing.. but that little extra your trying to save getting the GTX 460 over the Radeon 5850 is hardly worth it.

If you dont really need the 1tb of storage on your HD get the 500gb samsung and use the savings for the video card.

 

[Rancid504]

Here is an AMD build which will get you a 5870 GPU and leave with the ability to Xfire in the future.

Phenom II 955 BE and HIS Radeon HD 5870 GPU : $525.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442795

Samsung Spinpoint f3 : $55.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

Antec 900 case and Antec 750 watt TruePower PSU : $150.00 (after rebates) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.458432

Asus M4A79XDT motherboard : $100.00 (after rebates) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402

GSkill Ripjaws : $100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231278

LITE-ON DVD burner : $23.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106334

Total comes to $953.00 after rebates

 

[Civer]

I like your build, but why not spend the $15-20 extra bones and get a Radeon HD 5850? I bought one for $249 from Newegg last week on sale and its flat out better than the GTX 460. If you were planning on doing SLI with this computer, thats one thing.. but that little extra your trying to save getting the GTX 460 over the Radeon 5850 is hardly worth it.

If you dont really need the 1tb of storage on your HD get the 500gb samsung and use the savings for the video card.

Hi, thank you for your reply.
Actually the GTX better then the 5850. The temperatures of the GTX 460 are real low compared to 465/470/480 I saw the benchmark of the 5850 where the load temperature was 75celsius and the idle temp 40? That's insane. The 460 is 40-50 in load. Also in the netherlands the cheapest Gigabyte gtx 460 card is 202-211 euro's and the Gigabyte hd 5850 card is 267 euro's. True the stock version of the gtx 460 has 675MHz and the stock version of the 5850 has 725MHz But the aftermarket 460 i was referring too has 715 Besides the gtx card is overclockable to 880MHz since it has such outstanding cooling. I saw 800MHz as the max for an stock cooler 5850 dont know about aftermarket ones.

Here is an AMD build which will get you a 5870 GPU and leave with the ability to Xfire in the future.

Phenom II 955 BE and HIS Radeon HD 5870 GPU : $525.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442795

Samsung Spinpoint f3 : $55.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

Antec 900 case and Antec 750 watt TruePower PSU : $150.00 (after rebates) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.458432

Asus M4A79XDT motherboard : $100.00 (after rebates) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402

GSkill Ripjaws : $100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231278

LITE-ON DVD burner : $23.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106334

Total comes to $953.00 after rebates

Those 8570 tend to get really hot and not easy to get a nice overclock out of. Lowest price in the netherlands is326 euro's compared to the gtx 460 with 202 euro's I cant find the Antec 900 case in any shops in the NL's but I really like the cm 690

It's also real hard to find any of motherboards u guys are suggesting =/

 

[Lmeow]

I'd stick with the GTX 460 if the price difference in the Netherlands is that great.

Give us the website you use, I doubt most of us can understand Dutch but all we need is a search bar. Besides, I've learnt some Dutch already. Like three words, from your post, and your budget too (in Euro currency), U.S. prices are a bit cheaper than most other places.

 

[Civer]

http://azerty.nl/ and http://www.afuture.nl/ mainly

1 Euro = 1.30800 U.S. dollars
1 U.S. dollar = 0.764525994 Euros

1100 dollars = 840 euro's

If I would assemble a pc in a US shop and ship is over here I have to pay 19% tax over it _0_

 

[Civer]

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I hope this is viewable. This is what I have at the moment without OS and monitor. But I do not need those yet. I am doubting my PSU btw I plan to get an extra video card in the future and put them in SLI (same card as I have in basket)