Is this a an upgrade?

So, the 9200 is better?

Look here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/graphics-card-radeon,revi...


Short awnser : No...

EDIT: I'm assuming your current MB doesn't have a PCI-E x16 slot and that's why you're considering the new computer with the 9200 IGP, which assumably DOES have a PCI-E x16 slot.. (otherwise it's really really not worth upgrading!!)

For around that price maybe a few bucks more, look at the HD5750

no the 9200 is worse

The HD 5750 is roughly $150 - $160 + tax in a retail store in the US.

for around $100 in retail stores, you would be looking at the ATI 5670 512mb. i don't know if bestbuy will let you order it in store.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sapphire+-+ATI+Radeon+HD+56...

microcenter has a better selection
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

a fall back card would be the ATI 4670

http://www.frys.com/product/6168029?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...

Let's say I got this computer, and bought an ati radeon 5750 from fry's.
Would it be easy to replace that 9100?

Should work.. ask at frys, they'll know more about that motherboard/case than we do... but as far as i can see it shouldn't be a problem.

Also if i'm right you can't replace the 9100 as such because it's not discrete (it's integrated)

On the other hand that unit doesn't seem great value for money, when compared to building yourself.. but if your mind is made up i guess i can't change that.

Just remember that unit only comes with a 300w PSU.. and the time your saving by buying a unit instead of building it will likely be spent changing out that crappy PSU in a years time anyway

you would need to upgrade the PSU if you want to run the 5750

if you get an ATI 5670, you will be fine.

they get a list of products to push, their computer knowledge stops there. plus they are not looking for the best product for you, they are looking to sell the best product for themselves.

http://www.frys.com/product/5086635?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...
Okay so if I upgraded to that PSU and bought the radeon 5750, will it work?

yes

no the 6600GT is a better graphics system than the 9200, but not significantly....

Thanks guys for all the answers, and sorry for all of the questions. I just want this new computer to be perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QtpihO53pM&feature=rela...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRzGnNB10b0
Anyway, I watched these videos and read that the 9200 integrated can play fallout 3 with a 1440x 900 resolution with most settings on medium and it can get a steady 40 fps. I'm kind of confused.

fallout 3 relies a lot on the CPU, more then most games

at medium level the work load is mostly all CPU, no clue what his specs are. he also did a similar one with crysis although it looked awful.

Thanks for helping me so much, ct1615!

Okay...to recap..
http://www.frys.com/product/6168029?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...
I get that computer, with god knows what kind of monitor.
Then I get...
http://www.frys.com/product/6141779?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...
But not before getting
http://www.frys.com/product/5086635?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...
But I did read somewhere that the 5750 could be fine with a 300W supply. I also read that I need a 6 pin something.

you need a 6-pin power connector, the antec PSU has one, or a 4-pin to 6-pin adapter that comes with just about every video card

you could get away with a 300w PSU running the 5750 if it was made by antec or seasonic. they notoriously undervalue the power of their PSU making them exceed their stated power. Even the old DELL 305w could probably run it...for a while.

the HP 300w is only average for a mass PC maker and not intended for gaming.

P.S. youtube is full of videos on how to install a video card and PSU if you need that info

http://www.frys.com/product/5045135
So, this PSU will work fine, too, right?

it should (it has 23a on the 12v) but the other unit is worth the extra $15

Okay thanks.

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