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August 3, 2010 1:53:09 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: End of August hopefully

BUDGET RANGE: 900$ or lower

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (sc2, WoW, etc...) movies, internet, homework, photoshop

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, monitor, mouse, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United states

PARTS PREFERENCES: intel cpu

OVERCLOCKING: maybe (I don't know how, but I'm willing to try)

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: no (later in the future, but not now.)

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

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This is my first time building a computer. I did a bit of research, but I'm still not sure if this will be a nice gaming pc.

CPU: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics: EVGA 512-P3-1153-TR GeForce GTS 250 Video Card (was cheaper here)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD2 LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard (not sure on this)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Antec TruePower New TP (not sure on this either)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooling: CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series (friend recomended this, but i'm not sure it's a bit pricy. is it worth it?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Is there anything I can do better on for a descent price?

On newegg the price for all of this is 901.83$

I still need to buy windows 7 so I'm hoping to save money on my build so I can buy it.

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August 3, 2010 2:26:08 AM

Do you have to do Intel?

You would be better served system wise going with an AM3 Athlon II X3 440 and a more power GPU than the GTS 250.
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August 3, 2010 2:33:28 AM

Swap the caviar black you have picked for this one, it costs $5 more but will be faster, its packing 500GB platters for better performance.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The H50 isnt worth it if you have a case that can hold a full sized heatsink like you do, something like the Frio cost $20 less and gives significantly better performance. Even the hyper 212+ that costs $30 on amazon performs better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you check back a week before you buy we can help you pick out combos which should knock between $30 and $100 off the price without sacrificing quality at all, right now its the beginning of the month so the combos arent set yet, but by the end of the first week they are usually all the ones that will be available for the month.
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August 3, 2010 3:21:59 AM

tecmo34 said:
Do you have to do Intel?

You would be better served system wise going with an AM3 Athlon II X3 440 and a more power GPU than the GTS 250.


I would prefer Intel, but I'm willing to look at others.


hunter315 said:
Swap the caviar black you have picked for this one, it costs $5 more but will be faster, its packing 500GB platters for better performance.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The H50 isnt worth it if you have a case that can hold a full sized heatsink like you do, something like the Frio cost $20 less and gives significantly better performance. Even the hyper 212+ that costs $30 on amazon performs better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you check back a week before you buy we can help you pick out combos which should knock between $30 and $100 off the price without sacrificing quality at all, right now its the beginning of the month so the combos arent set yet, but by the end of the first week they are usually all the ones that will be available for the month.


So a regular heatsink would be better then? I read that water cooling was pretty goof. A normal heatsink is much better and cheaper too.
I'll make sure I check back and look around for those combos. I was thinking about buying a little bit each week possible if a good deal comes up for the part I want.

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August 3, 2010 7:33:50 AM

the GPU is low choice get somthin like gtx 260 i think that would serve
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August 3, 2010 7:56:32 AM

At the resolution you play at you really want at least a GTX460, though WoW is much less demanding on a GPU, any other games you get now and in the future will need to be played at lower settings.

You can save some money going with the Antec Case and the XFX 650W PSU - $125 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

No need for 750W as your motherboard cannot Crossfire so you will only be using one GPU anyway, so the 650W is plenty and overall that saves $75 to put towards a decent GPU.

Personally, I don't like Micro boards myself, so I would spend the little extra for a standard board - Gigabyte GA P55 USB3 - $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Hydro definately is not worth it, a good air coooler is cheaper and better, the Hyper 212+ from Amazon for a start. That would save over $50.

So, spending $15 more for the motherboard mentioned, you have still saved $110, add that to the money you were going to spend on the GT250 and you now have $210, the GTX 460 1gb card costs $230 so hopefully it is now within range.

In fact, if you change your HDD to the excellent performing Samsung Spinpoint F3 ( a favorite around here) you will save another $15 which puts you right in range for the card.

You can also save $10 on Windows 7 if you comboo deal it with the GTX460.

So a combo here and there, slight tweaking and you can get yourself a great GPU without having to swap to AMD (not that there is anything wrong with AMD). If you did go AMD you would probably be able to get a 5850 if you wanted it
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August 3, 2010 8:43:04 AM

GET this SETUP works GREATE

BRAND NEW
here are the links

motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...\-_-19-103-846-_-Product
ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
dvd drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
graphics card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


the thing is you can use different cases and different power supply (recommended) and also use the ram you picked or this one should be fine and get a cpu cooler this would be good basic one

cooler master heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i am not sure but other people please advice on this build in this form specially for heatsink and processor

all of this adds up to $748 without tax and you canswitch out ram,processor,psu and case to make a good pc i would only recommend switching out case and ram with ones you have and for the psu and case i will let other people advice you
by the way i rounded up prices to 10's and without rebated
other people please advice and rate this build
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August 4, 2010 12:49:25 AM

ATi Can go to hell. Great products shitty ass drivers. No thank you.

Grab a different heatsink.

Rams fine

600W is good if ur running a single card, Kingwin, Ultra (THey have double lifetime warranty's) are good, Silverstone to

DVD burner is great,



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

^_ Cheaper HDD <3 Seagate

Intel = Awesome.
AMD = FAIL.

Sure AMD processors are a bit cheaper but they still cannot run with the big boys of its kind still. Ever sense AMD ate Ati they just keep falling down the rabbit hole :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

Yea Intel is a little expensive but the performance to price is worth it.

As for the Mobo, an ASUS would prob be best than a Gigabyte as they have more of a well built reputation but that one is really up to you on that.
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August 4, 2010 1:59:59 AM

I would go with AMD and get a better GPU that GTS250 wont cut it, just won't or go with ATi. Squall is wrong, if you have a 1000 regular gaming PC you need to have some upgrade path, buy an AMD chip and wait for bulldozer platform, it will be awesome! and for SQALL, AMD is not falling down the rabbit hole, as they are more climbing up have you seen the sales lately? lol Get an AMD and a better GPU thats just the way to go and you can upgrade easy :) 
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August 4, 2010 2:42:47 AM

Sales don't easily make up for performance, go read Performance reviews and tests between the i5 and i7 vs AMD Counterparts. Both will preform ahead of AMD in nearly ever aspect 3 to 1. (or in Core i5's case, 4 to 1)


Reason why they sell more is because their cheaper but price/performance takes a hit as apposed to Intel's.

Quote:
In most scenarios Core i5 and Phenom II X4 achieved the same performance level and in most cases when one particular CPU was faster than the other the performance difference was practically negligible.

There were three important exceptions, however. When converting a full-length movie from a DVD (MPEG2) to DivX format Core i5-750 was 16% faster than Phenom II X4 965 and 20% faster than Phenom II X4 955; rendering a sample project on After Effects CS4 Core i5-750 was 22% faster than Phenom II X4 965 and 26% faster than Phenom II 955; and compressing files with WinRAR Core i5-750 was 19% faster than Phenom II X4 965 and 22% faster than Phenom II X4 955.

So for the user working professionally with video editing, Core i5 is the CPU to go and there is no question about it. For the average user picking the “right” CPU will depend on the brand he or she likes best, although the results move the tip of the scale towards Intel. Another item that may help decide the best CPU to choose from is the cost of the motherboard, which was not analyzed in the present review.

One very important discovery made during this review is that if you have a high-end video card, the CPU has almost no influence in the system gaming performance. So if you are building a high-end gaming machine, maybe it is better to pick a cheaper processor and invest the price difference on a faster video card.


http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i5-vs-Pheno...


Only "upper hand" is that AMD's sockets stay the same and Intel changes them every new line of CPU's they produce. Thats about it.
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August 4, 2010 8:03:27 AM

The other upper hand AMD has is clearly price - where Intel wins is on stuff that many people do not use. If you arebuilding a gaming machine the AMD CPUs perform incredibly well for far cheaper. What you just quoted even underlines that point - the money saved on AMD allows for a better GPU, ultimately that allows for a computer that performs better at gaming than an Intel CPU.

Persoanlly, I am an Intel fan and have never gone with AMD, but then, I am lucky that going Intel has never compromised the quality GPU I can get. But if I am honest, going AMD probably would have been smarter than going i5 because if I had then I would have afforded a motherboard wih XFire and probably USB/SATA III.
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August 4, 2010 11:47:12 AM

here is an intel build for $915.93 BR and $875.93 AR and it's sli ready

mobo+ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

gpu+cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

case+psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

odd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and if u want win7 it will add $99.99
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here is a build for $795 after $45 rebates and it's cf ready (vey important for future proofing)

cpu+gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

mobo+ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

case+psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

odd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 21, 2010 7:12:23 AM

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