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$1330 Gaming Pc, First build, please review, and give advices[help]

Forum Systems : New Build $1330 Gaming Pc, First build, please review, and give advices[help]

This is my first post on here.

anyway...

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: with in 2 months

BUDGET RANGE: $1330 is the limit

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming Mostly, picture, and video editing, and website making

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS, case(lian Li something)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:Newegg, or any other trusted websites.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: where I'm living? United state

PARTS PREFERENCES: anything

OVERCLOCKING:Yes, CPU probably to 3.8 or 3.9 with 955. I heard 5870 overclocked dont do much

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: In the future, unless someone want to fund me. haha

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1280x720 minimum

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS

parts that I've chosen

MOBO:ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
$209.99 shipping- None

CPU:AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
$159.99 shipping None

GPU:HIS Turbo IcoolerV HD 5870(cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR 5
$445.99 Shipping None

Cooling:CoolIT SYSTEMS ECO-R120(ALC)
$71.99 Shipping $0.99

Thermal Compound:GELID Solutions GC-Extreme Thermal Compound
$13.99 shipping $2.99

RAM:G.SKILL PI 4GB
$139.99 shipping-none

HDD:Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
$94.99 shipping-none

PSU:COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W ATX12V v2.3
$164.99 Shipping-None

DVD:LITE-ON Black 24X DVD
$19.99 shipping-none

Any Better suggestion are welcome,

Message edited by Kittehlordz on 08-03-2010 at 08:19:00 AM

Reply to Kittehlordz

^ Have you thought of an Intel build ? IMO for that budget, the i5 would be a good option also P55 boards support SLI as well...
My pick would be

i5 750/ 760
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro
4GB DDR3 GSKillz/ Crucial/ Corsair/ Mushkin
A quality 650-700W PSU(XFX/ Corsair/ Silverstone/ Seasonic/ Antec EA or TP/ CM Silent PRO)
Samsung F3 1TB
And for the price that you are spending on that graphics card, you could get 2x GTX 460 in SLI, that would easily beat even a GTX 480...
So go with SLI now and later on if there is anything better, just get that...

Reply to gkay09

so you're sayin the gtx 460 would beat the 5870?

Reply to Kittehlordz

I am saying 2x GTX 460 will beat HD 5870...

Reply to gkay09

my bad, but would you're build beat my build? and did you check the price yet?

Reply to Kittehlordz

A good review
http://www.guru3d.com/article/gefo [...] i-review/6

Reply to gkay09

One question, would your build be more expensive than mine?

Reply to Kittehlordz

Reply to gkay09

but the 1000 watt i found is only 164 dollars

Reply to Kittehlordz

^ I dont think it would be of any use...
That Corsair 750W would be the max I would suggest even for HD 5870 Crossfire or GTX 470 SLI...

Reply to gkay09

but is it modular tho

Reply to Kittehlordz

Well even these are modular too...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817256035
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371025
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139010
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817207003
And most of the time, you get good combos too...

The main reason I say not to go with higher wattage is that these would be more efficient...

Reply to gkay09

so too much wattage lower the efficient?

Reply to Kittehlordz

Would you recommend CFing 5870 in the future or jst get SLI 460 now,

Message edited by Kittehlordz on 08-03-2010 at 10:23:51 AM

Reply to Kittehlordz

^ Both ATI and Nvidia are going to launch their newer cards by year end...
So I would rather get that than Crossfire HD 5870...
Also for resolutions upto 1080p, GTX 460 SLI can play nearly every game out there at High-Very High...

Reply to gkay09

The 460 is a beast, plain and simple. This is the 1st time since I've been paying attention that nVidia has finally nailed price/performance.

The 460 1 GB is a perfectly priced card.

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Reply to cmcghee358

should I wait for the 6000s cards and or new nvidia card or buy now, because i want to be future proof with this.

I want a future proof pc that dont cost more than 1330 or 1350

Message edited by Kittehlordz on 08-03-2010 at 01:34:25 PM

Reply to Kittehlordz

^ The new cards will out in 3-4 months, if you are willing to wait till then, then its fine...

Reply to gkay09

gkay how long would your build last me? year wise

Reply to Kittehlordz

CPU Life I would say 3-4 years at the minimum, but the graphics card life depends on your requirements as they tend to change...
So if your gaming requirements are moderate, then say 3-4 years...

Assuming you would be using the PC mainly for gaming and some productivity...
Again these are just assumptions and can go wrong

Message edited by gkay09 on 08-03-2010 at 02:06:32 PM

Reply to gkay09

A few things u should know about SATA/USB 3.0 tech and mobos as shown by our very own forums here
USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, Motherboards, And Overcoming Bottlenecks
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2583.html
Also note that LGA 1156 shall be usurped by LGA 1155 as soon as end of this year/possible Q1 next year if u intending to sink a wee bit on chip + board FYI...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/c [...] -next-gen/

Quote :

Yes, that's right, LGA1155 - one fewer pins than current LGA1156 CPUs. These sockets are NOT compatible, so you cannot use an existing LGA1156 CPU in a new motherboard or visa versa. Not only is the position of pin-1 different, the socket notch has moved from 9mm to 11.5mm from the centre and the entire voltage plane layout has changed.

If i were u i ditch the CHIV, stick to a beefy HD 5870, an 80+ 650W and just the 870 chipset and stick to single GPU solution all the way and upgrade accordingly hehe

Message edited by batuchka on 08-03-2010 at 02:10:47 PM

Reply to batuchka

^ Well as for the SATA 6GB/s and USB3.0, you should take a look at this
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2490.html
That is the reason why the ASUS board get the recommendation over the other...

And as for the socket, well next year, nearly all the sockets will either be replaced or will get a newer revision...
So if the OP is willing to wait till then, then its fine...

Reply to gkay09

Well, Gkay, I want to max out my games, and at high resolution, and I also will be doing graphic editing. So I want my best out of my 1330-1350 dollars, because I won't be buying any pc in a long time. Hope you understand my situation.

Reply to Kittehlordz

Hmm 1055T + aftermarket cooler then?

Reply to batuchka

I heard 6 core cpu are bad for gaming on some forum I read earlier.

Reply to Kittehlordz

Nah w/e games that make do with better clock speed rather than cores will also be fine with a lightly OCed 1055T but am suggesting even further hehe The video/graphics/render performance meanwhile....

Reply to batuchka

Also, IF I wait till next year, wouldn't the price for new product be really high, and also the glitch and the bugs

Reply to Kittehlordz

for AMD build I want the crosshair IV formula because it have the memOK feature, so i dont have to go in bios and enable it and such

Reply to Kittehlordz

^ Well the main problem with the 6-Core is the clock speed,
But in general, like you said they are not the best for gaming, but aren't bad either...

Also 1055T if you are comfortable with overclocking...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185142
With another fan in Push-Pull config...

Reply to gkay09

Well graphic design in the sense ? CS Suite ?? If Yes, then even the the i5 will also be good and once overclocked even better...But if your work involves video transcoding/ encoding, then X6...
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 613-8.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 613-7.html

But if you want even more performance, then the i7 8xx(Again like I said if your work will involve video encoding/ transcoding, then the 6-core but mainly CS Suite, then i5/ i7)...

Reply to gkay09

well I will want the pc to be optimized for gaming.

Reply to Kittehlordz

Then I would suggest i5 760/ i7 870 setup...
These are very good gaming CPUs, which can also do productivity task well...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115213

And the i5s and i7s are known to be very good overclockers...

Reply to gkay09

You can always say to wait a few months, technologie never stops.
If you wait to Christmas then you'll have new graphicscards, with Easter you'll have also new cards...
Its your choice but remember that the new cards will cost more!

Reply to barrymobiel

1055T despite being a locked multi chip makes the 1090T not worth the premium with its more than above average clocks hehe
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=250607

Message edited by batuchka on 08-03-2010 at 03:09:34 PM

Reply to batuchka

I dont think the 870 will fit in my budget lol

Reply to Kittehlordz

^ How come ?? With the above build, if you replace the i5 760 with the i7 870, it would add up $80 to the total as rest of the parts will remain the same...
So $1246 + 80 = $1326

Also note that right now there are no combos in that build...
So by the time you build the PC, combos would easily save ~$50 or more in total...

Reply to gkay09

nvm, I was guesstimating lol. I'm not going to wait for the new stuff to come out and buy them. Mostly because of the price, and I'm not going for the 6 core CPUs, just because I heard better from quad core CPUs. Also I've been researching since the mid of spring, getting pretty tired of waiting, if you know what I mean.

Reply to Kittehlordz

Hey, Gkay, I just check your recommended Mobo and it said dual 16x BUT (it also said, run at single 16x or dual at 8x 8x)

Reply to Kittehlordz

It has dual PCIe X16 slots, and when running 2 graphic cards, they will run with bandwidth split as x8x8...

Reply to gkay09

will that hinder my performance?

Reply to Kittehlordz

For cards like GTX 460, NO it wont...Only for cards like say HD 5870 and above (when in Crossfire), then you see a drop of say about ~5% to worst case of ~10%...

Reply to gkay09

Why would that be though?

Reply to Kittehlordz

Because the x8 bandwidth would be a limiting factor for those powerful cards...
This article would better explain...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2847/1

Reply to gkay09

So the dual gtx 460 would not be compromised by the 8x, so that mean, i dont have to buy the nf200 chip thing right?

Reply to Kittehlordz

^ Yes...
And you cannot buy NF200 chip...You can only buy mobos that come with NF chip as they are built-in...

Reply to gkay09

ok, one more big question, which of the build, my OP, and your recommended i7 870 with 460 sli OR single 470, would be a more upgradeable system in the future? I dont want to buy a whole new system, I want an ability to upgrade. If you got other idea(s) please tell

Reply to Kittehlordz

^ Well obviously a single GTX 470 would have better upgrade path as you can add 1 more later on...But you should also consider the fact that it is soon going to be replaced by a newer card with a more efficient and better performing chip...

Even the AMD build will be good, but I would certainly drop the PSU to 750W...

Reply to gkay09

yea im gonna drop teh psu, I thought it would not had made a different so I picked it because the price was low for a 1000 watt psu

Reply to Kittehlordz

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