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$1330 Gaming Pc, First build, please review, and give advices[help]

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August 3, 2010 5:56:55 AM

This is my first post on here.

anyway...

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: with in 2 months

BUDGET RANGE: $1330 is the limit

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming Mostly, picture, and video editing, and website making

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS, case(lian Li something)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:Newegg, or any other trusted websites.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: where I'm living? United state

PARTS PREFERENCES: anything

OVERCLOCKING:Yes, CPU probably to 3.8 or 3.9 with 955. I heard 5870 overclocked dont do much

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: In the future, unless someone want to fund me. haha

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1280x720 minimum

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS

parts that I've chosen

MOBO:ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
$209.99 shipping- None

CPU:AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
$159.99 shipping None

GPU:HIS Turbo IcoolerV HD 5870(cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR 5
$445.99 Shipping None

Cooling:CoolIT SYSTEMS ECO-R120(ALC)
$71.99 Shipping $0.99

Thermal Compound:GELID Solutions GC-Extreme Thermal Compound
$13.99 shipping $2.99

RAM:G.SKILL PI 4GB
$139.99 shipping-none

HDD:Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
$94.99 shipping-none

PSU:COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W ATX12V v2.3
$164.99 Shipping-None

DVD:LITE-ON Black 24X DVD
$19.99 shipping-none

Any Better suggestion are welcome,
August 3, 2010 6:39:17 AM

^ Have you thought of an Intel build ? IMO for that budget, the i5 would be a good option also P55 boards support SLI as well...
My pick would be

i5 750/ 760
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro
4GB DDR3 GSKillz/ Crucial/ Corsair/ Mushkin
A quality 650-700W PSU(XFX/ Corsair/ Silverstone/ Seasonic/ Antec EA or TP/ CM Silent PRO)
Samsung F3 1TB
And for the price that you are spending on that graphics card, you could get 2x GTX 460 in SLI, that would easily beat even a GTX 480...
So go with SLI now and later on if there is anything better, just get that...
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August 3, 2010 6:43:15 AM

so you're sayin the gtx 460 would beat the 5870?
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August 3, 2010 6:46:20 AM

I am saying 2x GTX 460 will beat HD 5870...
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August 3, 2010 6:47:38 AM

my bad, but would you're build beat my build? and did you check the price yet?
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August 3, 2010 6:55:39 AM

One question, would your build be more expensive than mine?
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August 3, 2010 7:07:28 AM
August 3, 2010 7:16:49 AM

but the 1000 watt i found is only 164 dollars
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August 3, 2010 7:19:02 AM

^ I dont think it would be of any use...
That Corsair 750W would be the max I would suggest even for HD 5870 Crossfire or GTX 470 SLI...
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August 3, 2010 7:22:26 AM

but is it modular tho :D 
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August 3, 2010 7:34:24 AM

so too much wattage lower the efficient?
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August 3, 2010 7:36:24 AM

Would you recommend CFing 5870 in the future or jst get SLI 460 now,
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August 3, 2010 9:07:07 AM

^ Both ATI and Nvidia are going to launch their newer cards by year end...
So I would rather get that than Crossfire HD 5870...
Also for resolutions upto 1080p, GTX 460 SLI can play nearly every game out there at High-Very High...
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August 3, 2010 9:43:03 AM

The 460 is a beast, plain and simple. This is the 1st time since I've been paying attention that nVidia has finally nailed price/performance.

The 460 1 GB is a perfectly priced card.
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August 3, 2010 11:25:57 AM

should I wait for the 6000s cards and or new nvidia card or buy now, because i want to be future proof with this.

I want a future proof pc that dont cost more than 1330 or 1350
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August 3, 2010 11:33:05 AM

^ The new cards will out in 3-4 months, if you are willing to wait till then, then its fine...
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August 3, 2010 11:58:24 AM

gkay how long would your build last me? year wise
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August 3, 2010 12:04:37 PM

CPU Life I would say 3-4 years at the minimum, but the graphics card life depends on your requirements as they tend to change...
So if your gaming requirements are moderate, then say 3-4 years...

Assuming you would be using the PC mainly for gaming and some productivity...
Again these are just assumptions and can go wrong ;) 
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August 3, 2010 12:06:23 PM

A few things u should know about SATA/USB 3.0 tech and mobos as shown by our very own forums here
USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, Motherboards, And Overcoming Bottlenecks
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-sata-6gb,25...
Also note that LGA 1156 shall be usurped by LGA 1155 as soon as end of this year/possible Q1 next year if u intending to sink a wee bit on chip + board FYI...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/04/21/intel-...
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Yes, that's right, LGA1155 - one fewer pins than current LGA1156 CPUs. These sockets are NOT compatible, so you cannot use an existing LGA1156 CPU in a new motherboard or visa versa. Not only is the position of pin-1 different, the socket notch has moved from 9mm to 11.5mm from the centre and the entire voltage plane layout has changed.




If i were u i ditch the CHIV, stick to a beefy HD 5870, an 80+ 650W and just the 870 chipset and stick to single GPU solution all the way and upgrade accordingly hehe
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August 3, 2010 12:10:34 PM

^ Well as for the SATA 6GB/s and USB3.0, you should take a look at this
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-performance...
That is the reason why the ASUS board get the recommendation over the other...

And as for the socket, well next year, nearly all the sockets will either be replaced or will get a newer revision...
So if the OP is willing to wait till then, then its fine...
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August 3, 2010 12:14:25 PM

Well, Gkay, I want to max out my games, and at high resolution, and I also will be doing graphic editing. So I want my best out of my 1330-1350 dollars, because I won't be buying any pc in a long time. Hope you understand my situation.
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August 3, 2010 12:15:21 PM

Hmm 1055T + aftermarket cooler then?
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August 3, 2010 12:19:09 PM

I heard 6 core cpu are bad for gaming on some forum I read earlier.
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August 3, 2010 12:22:26 PM

Nah w/e games that make do with better clock speed rather than cores will also be fine with a lightly OCed 1055T but am suggesting even further hehe The video/graphics/render performance meanwhile....
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August 3, 2010 12:23:43 PM

Also, IF I wait till next year, wouldn't the price for new product be really high, and also the glitch and the bugs
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August 3, 2010 12:25:17 PM

for AMD build I want the crosshair IV formula because it have the memOK feature, so i dont have to go in bios and enable it and such
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August 3, 2010 12:43:01 PM

^ Well the main problem with the 6-Core is the clock speed,
But in general, like you said they are not the best for gaming, but aren't bad either...

Also 1055T if you are comfortable with overclocking...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
With another fan in Push-Pull config...
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August 3, 2010 12:47:52 PM

Well graphic design in the sense ? CS Suite ?? If Yes, then even the the i5 will also be good and once overclocked even better...But if your work involves video transcoding/ encoding, then X6...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-10...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-10...

But if you want even more performance, then the i7 8xx(Again like I said if your work will involve video encoding/ transcoding, then the 6-core but mainly CS Suite, then i5/ i7)...
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August 3, 2010 12:52:48 PM

well I will want the pc to be optimized for gaming.
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August 3, 2010 1:06:39 PM

You can always say to wait a few months, technologie never stops.
If you wait to Christmas then you'll have new graphicscards, with Easter you'll have also new cards...
Its your choice but remember that the new cards will cost more!
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August 3, 2010 1:16:20 PM

I dont think the 870 will fit in my budget lol :p 
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August 3, 2010 1:26:57 PM

^ How come ?? With the above build, if you replace the i5 760 with the i7 870, it would add up $80 to the total as rest of the parts will remain the same...
So $1246 + 80 = $1326

Also note that right now there are no combos in that build...
So by the time you build the PC, combos would easily save ~$50 or more in total...
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August 3, 2010 1:36:45 PM

nvm, I was guesstimating lol. I'm not going to wait for the new stuff to come out and buy them. Mostly because of the price, and I'm not going for the 6 core CPUs, just because I heard better from quad core CPUs. Also I've been researching since the mid of spring, getting pretty tired of waiting, if you know what I mean. :D 
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August 3, 2010 3:32:21 PM

Hey, Gkay, I just check your recommended Mobo and it said dual 16x BUT (it also said, run at single 16x or dual at 8x 8x)
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August 4, 2010 3:59:27 AM

It has dual PCIe X16 slots, and when running 2 graphic cards, they will run with bandwidth split as x8x8...
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August 4, 2010 4:00:53 AM

will that hinder my performance?

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August 4, 2010 4:05:18 AM

For cards like GTX 460, NO it wont...Only for cards like say HD 5870 and above (when in Crossfire), then you see a drop of say about ~5% to worst case of ~10%...
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August 4, 2010 4:08:22 AM

Why would that be though?
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August 4, 2010 6:13:42 AM

So the dual gtx 460 would not be compromised by the 8x, so that mean, i dont have to buy the nf200 chip thing right?
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August 4, 2010 6:30:10 AM

^ Yes...
And you cannot buy NF200 chip...You can only buy mobos that come with NF chip as they are built-in...
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August 4, 2010 7:21:22 AM

ok, one more big question, which of the build, my OP, and your recommended i7 870 with 460 sli OR single 470, would be a more upgradeable system in the future? I dont want to buy a whole new system, I want an ability to upgrade. If you got other idea(s) please tell :D 
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August 4, 2010 7:31:08 AM

^ Well obviously a single GTX 470 would have better upgrade path as you can add 1 more later on...But you should also consider the fact that it is soon going to be replaced by a newer card with a more efficient and better performing chip...

Even the AMD build will be good, but I would certainly drop the PSU to 750W...
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August 4, 2010 7:43:33 AM

yea im gonna drop teh psu, I thought it would not had made a different so I picked it because the price was low for a 1000 watt psu
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