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Cant adjust my gpu fan. help:(

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June 27, 2010 9:15:54 AM

i using a Palit 9500gt 512mb 128bit. yeah, it has a fan plug onto itself. i tried to overclock it:
core clock: from 450 to 529mhz
shader clock: from 1125 to 1250mhz

i cant adjust the fan speed from vtune, msi afterburner, rivatuner and evga precision. i was plannning to plug the fan on my motherboard but i was doubting coz i dont know if it will change anything and if it is safe.

my gpu temp shoots up to 80C according to furmark(i ran the test for like 20mins).

will it change the temp if i will plug the fan to my board? or i should buy myself an aftermarket gpu fan?

thanks:) 

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June 27, 2010 9:28:34 AM

is your 9500 gt a green edition?
the clocks are way to low
also the fan needs to be plugged to the card not the mobo, or it wont work.
also i would recommend getting a after-market fan too, unless you prefer to save your money and buy a better card and psu
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June 27, 2010 10:21:52 AM

80 c on furmark is ok as it pushes the card to its limit it will never reach that temp level on normal use
but i am wondering why you are unable to control the fan speed... because last day you said you controlled the fan speed
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June 27, 2010 10:26:42 AM

and one more thing....stick to one software to overclock the card..
dont install more than one as it may result in conflict between the 2 software...(can be a reason why you cant control the fan speed)
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June 27, 2010 12:35:24 PM

Is it a two pin or three pin fan? My 9500GT has a two pin fan and so adjusting the fan speed has zero affect as it's usually only the three and four pin fans that can be adjusted via software.
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June 27, 2010 12:41:47 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Is it a two pin or three pin fan? My 9500GT has a two pin fan and so adjusting the fan speed has zero affect as it's usually only the three and four pin fans that can be adjusted via software.

are you sure?
my gpu fan has only 2 pins and can be controlled via software..
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June 27, 2010 1:05:48 PM

That's why I said "usually", both my 9500GT and my 8800GT's have two pin fans and none of them can be controlled via software.
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June 27, 2010 1:17:34 PM

Mousemonkey said:
That's why I said "usually", both my 9500GT and my 8800GT's have two pin fans and none of them can be controlled via software.

ohk
might depend on the cooler
or is it like reference cooler's fan speed cant be controlled manually but of custom cooler it can be?
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June 27, 2010 1:30:33 PM

The 9500GT has the MSI non referance factory cooler on and the 8800's have Zalman HSF's on now but the standard HSF's were the single slot design and would ramp up and down with the temperature changes but still couldn't be controlled by software.
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June 27, 2010 1:53:18 PM

@alhanelem: yeah i was really freakin out while i was overclockin it because i only have a stock fan. can i still make my clocks higher?

whats a psu? green edition? i dont know. the box doesn't tell if its a green edition. but it actually looks like this:



@mjsharma: on vtune: yes, i did changed it to 30%. but when i checked earlier, it was reverted to 0%. so i tried to bring it back up to 30%. i cant get over that speed and i dont know why. anyway, i applied the changes and checked the fan again, i was reverted to 0%. so i closed the vtune and i used msi afterburner, which is the one u also told on my other thread.

i can't slide the bar of the fan. it was disabled just like this:



@mousemonkey: its a 3 pin and it has 2 cabls (i think. its a red and black cable?).
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June 27, 2010 1:59:20 PM

Two cables would suggest that like mine it's non adjustable unless the cards onboard temp sensor adjusts the power being sent to it.
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June 27, 2010 2:53:23 PM

it seems your fan can't be controlled
well don't worry.. 80c on furmark with 9500GT isnt a bad one...
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June 27, 2010 11:58:16 PM

@mjsharma: yeah. too bad and i was really freakin out when i was stressing my gpu. errr can i still go higher on my previous overclock? and, i shouldn't reach higher than 85C, right?
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June 28, 2010 12:01:52 AM

ejcelis said:
@mjsharma: yeah. too bad and i was really freakin out when i was stressing my gpu. errr can i still go higher on my previous overclock? and, i shouldn't reach higher than 85C, right?

You can go as high as you like mate but at 105c the GPU will most likely cry enough and die.
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June 28, 2010 5:52:27 AM

so stressin my gpu until 90C @ furmark is still justifiable? there's really a big difference in the temp when it comes to furmark and playing a game. coz others was finding a way to cool their gpus when theirs was steamin @ 90C. but i don't know in their case if it was because of furmark or just because of a game.

if i add another fan on my case, will it help to cool my gpu?
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June 28, 2010 6:36:56 AM

furmark pushes your card to its limits...
it will never reach that temp level while gaming...
my gts 250 oc reaches 65c on furmark
but never crossed 60 while gaming..maximum i've seen is 55c and reached 60c when i did a dual display setup
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June 28, 2010 10:20:15 AM

dear ejcelis,

i had the same problem... i'm running a GTX 260 and after playing larger games requiring higher pc specifications, my temperatures were through the roof, some reaching 90 - 93 degrees celcius.

what i did, i got myself Riva tuner, through a friend and not sure if the program has to be purchased or not... and after playing a game i would realise how hot my graphics card was getting, especially the core of the GPU, i set my fan speed a bit higher and in 4 to 5 minutes, its back to the original start up temperature!!

the program helped me considerably, even before i got myself the GTX 260. I was running a 8800GT and temperature problems were still a problem.

Riva tuner is a desktop application that allows you to customize practically anything regarding your pc components, i use it often to cool my GPU by increasing the fan speeds.

what is does is give you the initial core temperature and ambient temperature of your GPU, allowing you to either set fixed fan speeds or automatically set the speed of your fan according to the heat of your GPU.

I highly recommend the program as it potentially saved me a lot on component replacement!

Hope this helpls a bit, and i don't think you'll have a problem with older graphics cards, this program is very versatile!

Dane (South Africa)
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June 28, 2010 10:31:36 AM

well op is using MSI afterburner..its just a Rivatuner with a new skin on, coded by the same guy
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June 28, 2010 1:40:52 PM

@mjsharma: yeah i've seen my gpu on the limit via furmark. but once i play the game, it didn't reached that temp. ime try to extend my oc and see the limit thru games. btw, i added another fan on my case. hope that will help lol.

@dane: can't see on how to adjust the fan speed of my gpu thru rivatuner:( 
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June 28, 2010 3:08:46 PM

ejcelis said:
@mjsharma: yeah i've seen my gpu on the limit via furmark. but once i play the game, it didn't reached that temp. ime try to extend my oc and see the limit thru games. btw, i added another fan on my case. hope that will help lol.

@dane: can't see on how to adjust the fan speed of my gpu thru rivatuner:( 

It's under driver settings, the first icon that looks like a graphic card.
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June 28, 2010 3:24:58 PM

@mousemonkey: yup. i can't fine that tab lol. but thanks anyway for telling me where:) 

ok, this is crazy. is it just me? or i was just excited? i ran my gpu on furmark with its new oc settings:

core: 570
shader: 1300
memory: 400 - 450

for the past 8 mins., it was stable on 79C. (lol did the new case fan helped? XD) so i just closed the app to end my gpu's agony.

oh and btw, i was playing AC2 and my temp was just @ 70C. is that fine?

thanks:) 
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June 29, 2010 3:19:26 AM

yep your temps are fine..
it was fine before also... now its better :) 
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June 29, 2010 6:28:14 AM

Your rivatuner is a bit different than mine, but none the less, where it says Direct Control or Direct Settings, change that to fixed Speed or Fixed settings, then adjust the speed of your fan, click apply, and listen in your machine if the speed of your fan has increased!!
(You can literally hear it work more!!!)

Let me know if it works, i'm sure it will!!
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June 29, 2010 1:54:38 PM

@mjsharma: is it fine to max out the settings of my oc? coz i've tried to push it further. my new oc settings is:

core: 585(max)
shader: 1365
memory: 500

i asked my brother if there was something wrong as he plays for an hour. well he said everythings fine. lol i was just wondering if setting one(just one) of those attributes to max will kill my gpu. lol thanks for all the tip. they were all useful btw:) 

@dane: yup. there was no fan tab at all. coz it cant detect my gpu fan. what's the version of your rivatuner btw? mine is 2.24 (if my memory serves me right.).

guys, is there anyway to force adjust my gpu fan? i was just wondering lol.
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June 29, 2010 3:31:52 PM

nope... your fan can't be controlled manually
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June 30, 2010 12:33:13 AM

oh that's to bad XD. so, is setting my core @ max is still safe?
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June 30, 2010 6:08:53 AM

you can do whatever you want if the temps are within safe limits and no artifacting
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June 30, 2010 6:24:01 AM

don't go to driver settings cutomize but to target adapter customize, then click on the small graphics card icon, i think its the first little icon...

then select fixed settings, it must be there, i just tested it on my sister's pc, 9600 GT and tweaked the fan just the way i wanted it!

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June 30, 2010 7:58:09 AM

Dane Bouwer said:
don't go to driver settings cutomize but to target adapter customize, then click on the small graphics card icon, i think its the first little icon...

then select fixed settings, it must be there, i just tested it on my sister's pc, 9600 GT and tweaked the fan just the way i wanted it!


Some cards simply don't allow you to change the fan speed manually, no matter what you do. I have an MSi 9800GTX, and it consistently overrides any RivaTuner fan profile, no matter what you try and do to it. Seems the fan is hardware-controlled, and I'd have to flash the BIOS to override the built-in profile.
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June 30, 2010 11:39:32 AM

Dane Bouwer said:
don't go to driver settings cutomize but to target adapter customize, then click on the small graphics card icon, i think its the first little icon...

then select fixed settings, it must be there, i just tested it on my sister's pc, 9600 GT and tweaked the fan just the way i wanted it!

it doesn't work on all cards..
some card's fan cannot be controlled by softwares
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June 30, 2010 12:08:48 PM

you can do one thing...
try connecting your gpu fan wire to your psu directly...
take out the wires along with pins from the gpu fan connector and push the RED wire's pin(pin is used to hold it firmly inside) into the YELLOW part of the molex connector (the first pin of molex) and BLACK to BLACK(second pin of molex) this will give full power to the fan in other words the fan will run in full speed...
just tried it for you and it worked...
try it and let me know if it worked for you
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June 30, 2010 11:47:56 PM

what's a psu? (sorry man, noob here). i saw this 3 pin slot on my mobo, and it was really that near to my gpu. if that's what you're talking about then should i connect my gpu fan there?

btw, thanks :) 
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July 1, 2010 1:37:27 PM

oh the 4 pin connector? but how can i connect it? my gpu's fan has only 3 pins.

http://uvnium.com/uvshop/images/3pin%20cable.jpg

so, should i look for a converter? or i can just plug the fan on my mobo? coz, i saw this connector thingy that has 3 pins.
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July 1, 2010 1:40:14 PM

how many wire does your gpu fan has? 2, right? one red and one black
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July 1, 2010 1:41:57 PM

yeah. it has 2 cables.
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July 1, 2010 1:46:11 PM

you can either get a converter or do some electrical like what i said before
don't plug it to mobo fan header
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July 1, 2010 1:47:51 PM

plugin my gpu fan to my mobo wont hurt it right? lol. i wanna try but i was scared coz the fan might blow up. XD
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July 1, 2010 1:50:58 PM

i don't think so... you can try that also.. i am not sure if it will get full speed when connected to mobo because it doesn't have 3rd wire to control the speed...
its worth giving a try..
but what i said will make the fan run in full speed always
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July 1, 2010 1:52:45 PM

if you want i can show you some images of what i did.. its simple..
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July 1, 2010 1:53:49 PM

yeah. searching for converters for connectors was really hard. coz here in our country, Philippines, it's really hard to get some parts for my rig. but anyway i'll give it a shot and connect my fan to the mobo. :) 
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July 1, 2010 1:54:05 PM

yes. please :D 
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July 1, 2010 1:54:46 PM

just give me 5 or 10 minutes :) 
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July 1, 2010 1:56:19 PM

wait i also have a question. it seems my gpu-z doesnt show the right clocks.
err, my v-tune was open when i the desktop was shown and i saw that the clocks on my msi afterburner was really different from the record of gpu-z.
so there, i closed the v-tune ( i was really wondering why the hell it was open.) and ima try to reboot the comp. (and start doin the fan experiment. lol)
i'll be back:) 
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July 1, 2010 2:15:32 PM

ejcelis said:
wait i also have a question. it seems my gpu-z doesnt show the right clocks.
err, my v-tune was open when i the desktop was shown and i saw that the clocks on my msi afterburner was really different from the record of gpu-z.
so there, i closed the v-tune ( i was really wondering why the hell it was open.) and ima try to reboot the comp. (and start doin the fan experiment. lol)
i'll be back:) 




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July 1, 2010 2:17:33 PM

oops it didnt get linked.. :o 
well, in the first one you can see my fan connector
and in the second one you can see the pins taken out of the connector
and 2rd one you can see the pins inserted into molex
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July 1, 2010 2:24:41 PM

you plugged the red one on the yellow hole? ok, ima try that :) 
i guess i should wait until tomorrow lol. coz its already 10:30pm here and i should sleep for my classes.

thanks btw:D 
i learned so much in this thread:) 
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July 1, 2010 2:52:02 PM

yes RED to YELLOW
and BLACK to BLACK
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July 1, 2010 3:17:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7__NptyTNNQ
here you can see the setup working...
if you listen carefully you can hear the fan sound.. its full speed, thats why its a bit loud, when in cabby you wont hear this much sound
ignore whatever you see around... its a complete mess :p 
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July 8, 2010 3:27:22 AM

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