New Mobo, still no post/screen

[Damiensdad]

Hi all
My mums PC went blue screen a few times, so someone (not me) tried to format and re-install windows. During this, the PC died. The fans start up, but no display at all. No POST or beeps.
Purchased a new upgraded Mobo (diff make as they didnt do the old one). Bench tested it, and nothing. Took all RAM and non essentials out, and still nothing. So tested with a known good higher wattage PSU, and also known good RAM, but still the same thing. No POST or beeps.

I tested the cpu by turning on without HS, it heated up and got turned off within 3secs max.

Any ideas at all? Ive emailed the company saying i think mobo may be DOA, and am awaiting reply. but anything im missing here? Played with PCs a few times, but im no techi.

Asrock N68CS-UCC, AMD phenomx4 9500, Hynix 2x1GB 667 RAM, stock HS&Fan, O/B Nvidia 7025, 250W PSU, 2x 500GB western digital HD.

Hope Ive included everything needed. Thanks

 

[jsc]

Except brand and model of the PSU's.

You need to keep the cooler on the CPU. They heat up really fast.

Work systematically through our standard checklist and troubleshooting thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-posting-boot-problems
I mean work through, not just read over it. We spent a lot of time on this. It should find most of the problems.

If not, continue.
The following is an expansion of my troubleshooting tips in the breadboarding link in the "Cannot boot" thread.

I have tested the following beep patterns on Gigabyte, eVGA, and ECS motherboards. Other BIOS' may be different, but they all use a single short beep for a successful POST.

Breadboard - that will help isolate any kind of case problem you might have.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/262730-31-breadboarding

Breadboard with just motherboard, CPU & HSF, case speaker, and PSU.

Make sure you plug the CPU power cable in. The system will not boot without it.

I always breadboard a new build. It takes only a few minutes, and you know you are putting good parts in the case once you are finished.

You can turn on the PC by momentarily shorting the two pins that the case power switch goes to. You should hear a series of long, single beeps indicating memory problems. Silence indicates a problem with (in most likely order) the PSU, motherboard, or CPU. Remember, at this time, you do not have a graphics card installed so the load on your PSU will be reduced.

If no beeps:
Running fans and drives and motherboard LED's do not necessarily indicate a good PSU. In the absence of a single short beep, they also do not indicate that the system is booting.

At this point, you can sort of check the PSU. Try to borrow a known good PSU of around 550 - 600 watts. That will power just about any system with a single GPU. If you cannot do that, use a DMM to measure the voltages. Measure between the colored wires and either chassis ground or the black wires. Yellow wires should be 12 volts. Red wires: +5 volts, orange wires: +3.3 volts, blue wire : -12 volts, violet wire: 5 volts always on. Tolerances are +/- 5% except for the -12 volts which is +/- 10%.

The gray wire is really important. It should go from 0 to +5 volts when you turn the PSU on with the case switch. CPU needs this signal to boot.

You can turn on the PSU by completely disconnecting the PSU and using a paperclip or jumper wire to short the green wire to one of the neighboring black wires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXgQSokF4&feature=youtube_gdata

A way that might be easier is to use the main power plug. Working from the back of the plug where the wires come out, use a bare paperclip to short between the green wire and one of the neighboring black wires. That will do the same thing with an installed PSU. It is also an easy way to bypass a questionable case power switch.

This checks the PSU under no load conditions, so it is not completely reliable. But if it can not pass this, it is dead. Then repeat the checks with the PSU plugged into the computer to put a load on the PSU.

If the system beeps:
If it looks like the PSU is good, install a memory stick. Boot. Beep pattern should change to one long and several short beeps indicating a missing graphics card.

Silence, long single beeps, or series of short beeps indicate a problem with the memory. If you get short beeps verify that the memory is in the appropriate motherboard slots.

Insert the video card and connect any necessary PCIe power connectors. Boot. At this point, the system should POST successfully (a single short beep). Notice that you do not need keyboard, mouse, monitor, or drives to successfully POST.
At this point, if the system doesn't work, it's either the video card or an inadequate PSU. Or rarely - the motherboard's PCIe interface.

Now start connecting the rest of the devices starting with the monitor, then keyboard and mouse, then the rest of the devices, testing after each step. It's possible that you can pass the POST with a defective video card. The POST routines can only check the video interface. It cannot check the internal parts of the video card.

 

[Damiensdad]

Hi, thanks for the reply but i have spent hours reading and checking everything i could. i never knew about beep tests and "breadboarding/bench testing" etc before this issue.

The fan is always on the CPU, except for when i tested it, to see if it heated up. and was only on for 3 secs max. Am i right in saying if they heat up then that shows they are working??

Ive used an higher wattage PSU, out of my PC, so i know the power supply on the tests was ok.

I've been through the very helpful checklist (bookmarked it for later use), only thing i haven't done is reset the CMOS- could this be the problem? New mobo though..

All wires are correctly installed. but no beeps or POST what so ever....