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October 8, 2010 11:25:04 PM

Hello all, I have a quick question. I plan on upgrading my mobo and cpu cooler, and both upgrades are much bigger then what I have now. Also, the case I have right now is pretty horrible quality so I figured I might as well upgrade that too. I just want to get some opinions on if the case I have my eye on will be able to fit my new mobo and cpu cooler. I will provide links below. I looked on the case details to find, I had hoped, how big of a mobo it can fit in inches, but I did not see that, hence why I am asking here. Thanks again.

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you have any better choices for me for a case that is around 50 bucks or less let me know. Thanks.

EDIT : I am also running a gtx 260 for my video card and I actually had a tough time getitng it to fit in my current mid size case, I am thinking that it might be safer to get a bigger case to make sure I have extra room.

Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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October 8, 2010 11:52:03 PM

Well MoBo will fit for sure. It's a midtower so it should be able to accommodate that vid card too. Not 100% about that cooler though but it should as most cases like this are a pretty standard width.
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October 9, 2010 12:23:13 AM

So pretty much any mid tower should be able to fit that mobo? What exactly would one need a full tower for? They seem pretty huge.
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October 9, 2010 12:39:08 AM

The 212+ will fit fine, your case is 7.3 inches wide whole the 212 is no more that 6.5 mounted. You probably wont be able to fit a 2 side fans though.

Why would you want to upgrade that Mobo though? $75 bucks plus the ~$100 youll get for selling your C2D/C2Q is going to get you a long wat with a new platform.
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October 9, 2010 1:53:33 AM

Timop said:
The 212+ will fit fine, your case is 7.3 inches wide whole the 212 is no more that 6.5 mounted. You probably wont be able to fit a 2 side fans though.

Why would you want to upgrade that Mobo though? $75 bucks plus the ~$100 youll get for selling your C2D/C2Q is going to get you a long wat with a new platform.


I might not have been clear. Those are what I am upgrading TO, I am not upgrading from those. At the moment I have a Dell mobo and am using the stock heatsink that came with it as well as this monstrosity of a fail case, which is small for a mod size case, my gtx 260 is cramped in it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So I figure I will buy the stuff I listed in my OP all at once since I plan on overclocking my cpu I want to make sure I have a case with decent airflow since the heatsink I am going to buy seems it will do well.
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October 9, 2010 2:33:39 AM

fcdwn777 said:
I might not have been clear. Those are what I am upgrading TO, I am not upgrading from those. At the moment I have a Dell mobo and am using the stock heatsink that came with it as well as this monstrosity of a fail case, which is small for a mod size case, my gtx 260 is cramped in it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So I figure I will buy the stuff I listed in my OP all at once since I plan on overclocking my cpu I want to make sure I have a case with decent airflow since the heatsink I am going to buy seems it will do well.

What CPU do you have?
What I meant is upgrading a 775 platform isn't worth it now, you would rather upgrade to AM3 for almost the same cost.

If you're using that logysis case now and find it tiny, you'll really want to consider a full-tower. The Rosewill is merely 3 inches wider for the Mobo tray. However if it simply the 260 extending into the 2.5 bays and feeling "cramped" the Rosewill will do you fine.
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October 9, 2010 2:42:42 AM

Timop said:
What CPU do you have?
What I meant is upgrading a 775 platform isn't worth it now, you would rather upgrade to AM3 for almost the same cost.

If you're using that logysis case now and find it tiny, you'll really want to consider a full-tower. The Rosewill is merely 3 inches wider for the Mobo tray. However if it simply the 260 extending into the 2.5 bays and feeling "cramped" the Rosewill will do you fine.


My cpu is a Wolfdale E6500 @ 2.93 ghz. I really dont know what a AM3 is or why it is better. I am still pretty new in my computer knowledge. As far as the size of my case, the only hard to fit part was my card, everything else is fine. From what I read the case I want to buy, that being the Rosewill, is 3 1/2" longer as well as .18 inches wider, and since my main problem with my current case, besides the cheap quality and low air flow, was the length because I had to squeeze the card in there I assumed it will have more room in the new one due to the extra few inches.
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October 9, 2010 3:04:54 AM

fcdwn777 said:
I might not have been clear. Those are what I am upgrading TO, I am not upgrading from those. At the moment I have a Dell mobo and am using the stock heatsink that came with it as well as this monstrosity of a fail case, which is small for a mod size case, my gtx 260 is cramped in it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So I figure I will buy the stuff I listed in my OP all at once since I plan on overclocking my cpu I want to make sure I have a case with decent airflow since the heatsink I am going to buy seems it will do well.


You have the same problem I have... almost the same problem I replaced my dell case for new one at WWW. CPUtopia.com because my new Seagate hard drive wasn’t work well with my Maxtor hard drive so I asked my mom buy me the case which is barebone I might add. What you do is go on to CPUtopia.com find which PC model you have don’t let the picture fool you I got a totally difference case from what I saw on the site. While you’re waiting that I come buy your parts fans, PSU, CPU mobo, memory ECT, when the case comes remove the mobo and the PSU then when your parts come from newegg.com install them into the case. the case was made by Axitron computer
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October 9, 2010 3:25:42 AM

Quote:
A mobo with AM3 can support cpu's with AM3 (socket). A mobo with AM2 will not support a newer (and better) cpu that has AM3 socket. You can get mobos that have AM3 and AM2 and those will support cpu's that have AM2 socket or AM3 socket. However, there are different types of sockets, and it depends on your cpu.


So, since I need a socket 775 for my cpu then an AM3 does not matter to me right?
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October 9, 2010 3:32:26 AM

Yes, it doesn't matter in your case.
AMD mobos have the AM socket, Intel have the LGA sockets. So yea, AM3 doesn't matter in your case. You're gonna need an Intel mobo. I don't know if they make backward compatible ones or not.
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October 9, 2010 3:40:50 AM

Well, from what I gather in this thread the mobo, heatsink and video card should fit fine in that case, so thanks for the info.
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October 9, 2010 6:40:51 AM

Actually, I have a followup question and dont want to start a new thread and clutter the forums. Is there a way to know if the case fans the come with a case connect to the mobo or the psu? I ask because I was looking at the rosewill challenger and it comes with 3 fans, but from what I know all my psu molex plugs are in use atm, so I would need to buy a splitter. But I heard that some case fans plug into the mobo so I dont want to buy a splitter if I dont have to. And in reference to the splitter, when I buy one, do I get one that turns male into female or female into male? For reference I was looking at this case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It comes with 3 fans and I want to make sure I am able to plug them all in. Sorry for all the nubish questions but I dont want to mess this up.
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October 9, 2010 7:47:02 AM

Most fans you can just run the power through. They have an input and an output molex pin, well, mine do. This way, they don't actually take up a molex output from the PSU. But I don't know with that case whether they will or not.

If you have a store in-town you can get splitters, I'd order it without any and if you need some just pick them up at a local shop. Otherwise, might as well grab a few splitters.
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October 9, 2010 7:54:31 AM

Dekasav said:
Most fans you can just run the power through. They have an input and an output molex pin, well, mine do. This way, they don't actually take up a molex output from the PSU. But I don't know with that case whether they will or not.

If you have a store in-town you can get splitters, I'd order it without any and if you need some just pick them up at a local shop. Otherwise, might as well grab a few splitters.


Ah...I see. They come with 2 molex adapters, one of each kind, so they dont actually use up one. Good to know. Well, let me pick your brain once more of you would oblige me. I am tryin to decide between these 2 cases atm. With the Gamma I would buy a 120mm case fan to go in the front. With the Challenger I would not need to buy any since it comes with 2x 120 and 1x 140. Any opinion on which I should go with?

nzxt gamma
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill challenger
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 9, 2010 7:21:43 PM

Alright, last post I promise. I have narrowed it down to 3 cases, which all seem terribly similar to each other. So similar that a newbie like me cant effectively tell which might be better. I would appreciate a lot if anyone has an opinion on which might be the best of the 3. Thanks!

Rosewill Destroyer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Challenger
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Smart One
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=11-147-...
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October 9, 2010 7:48:26 PM

The Destroyer is a HEC re-badge IIRC, By the looks its a entry level "enthusiast" case, having a cutout hole for aftermarket coolers on the Mobo tray, but it lacks a bottom PSU intake mesh and a tool-less design.

The Smartone looks like a "consumer" case, tool-less design will simply the installation of installing drives. The interesting part about the case (at least in the pictures) is the Silverstone fan, pretty rare for a budget case to have one as they usually come with generics.

The Gamma and Challenger is the same case, the Challenger just gives you 2 more fans. But for the Gamma even with one fan will be fine, even if you want to add fans, get top fans instead of front fans, as the meshed front will draw in air by itself due to the pressure difference.

Honestly the difference beyween the 3/4 isn't huge, the Challenger/Gamma being the more feature rich case out of the 4, but just choose the one that you like the looks better.

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October 9, 2010 7:50:24 PM

It kind of depends on your needs. Like if you need the external 3.5 drive bay, or the ability to have 7 120mm fans. If you don't have any particular needs, I would go with the Rosewill Challenger, because it is the only case out of those 3 with an average rating of 5 eggs (stars) and has the most reviews. Also, it's Tom's Hardware 2010 recommended buy.
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October 9, 2010 7:56:38 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, I feel ready to order once I decide between the Gamma and the Challenger. Thanks alot.One thing though, I heard top fans blow out of the case and side fans blow in. Is this correct? Also, if I were to put in a front fan, does that blow in the case or out of the case? thanks.
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October 9, 2010 8:02:05 PM

fcdwn777 said:
Thanks for the replies guys, I feel ready to order once I decide between the Gamma and the Challenger. Thanks alot.One thing though, I heard top fans blow out of the case and side fans blow in. Is this correct? Also, if I were to put in a front fan, does that blow in the case or out of the case? thanks.

You can place the fans however you want to manage the direction of airflow, but generally you would want the fans on the top/rear to blow out, while the fans on the front to suck in.

Side fans are totally unnecessary IMO, most of the time they just disrupt the airflow. The only times you would want a saide fan is when you have multiple graphics cards thats fighting for air, in that case a side fan that blows air towards them would help.

Get the Gamma out of the 2, the $20 you save can get you much better fans than the 2 they give you on the Rosewill.
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October 9, 2010 8:10:13 PM

Timop said:
You can place the fans however you want to manage the direction of airflow, but generally you would want the fans on the top/rear to blow out, while the fans on the front to suck in.

Side fans are totally unnecessary IMO, most of the time they just disrupt the airflow. The only times you would want a saide fan is when you have multiple graphics cards thats fighting for air, in that case a side fan that blows air towards them would help.

Get the Gamma out of the 2, the $20 you save can get you much better fans than the 2 they give you on the Rosewill.


Thats what I was thinking about doing. Getting the gamma and getting 2 120mm fans, one for the top and one for the front. I am hoping there are some decent fans on newegg or chiefvalue for around 10 each. Though the top can fit 2x 120 or 2x 140. Choices choices.
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October 9, 2010 11:32:31 PM

SO, I may have lied when I said last post. I have been looking at some budget case fans to get to go with my Gamma case and I have a question. I was looking at getting a couple of these Rosewill 120mm fans http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... but I noticed they are 3 pin fans, meaning from what I understand they attach to the mobo. I also see they come with a, what looks like, a 3 pin to 4 pin molex adapter, which is all well and good. But it seems that if you use the molex adapter you wont be able to run power through the fan, since a lot of the fans I have looked at come with a male and female molex plugs so it does not take up a molex spot and you can run the power right through it. So, is there a way to tell if the mobo I am going to buy has 3 pin connectors for the fans, and if so, how many? This is the mobo I am looking at, I linked it above but I will link it again http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... If I cant connect 2 or 3 fans to that mobo then it seems like I will have to buy some molex splitters to make it work since I dont think I can run power through those fans using the molex adapter.
Thanks for any info.
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October 10, 2010 12:10:15 AM

fcdwn777 said:
SO, I may have lied when I said last post. I have been looking at some budget case fans to get to go with my Gamma case and I have a question. I was looking at getting a couple of these Rosewill 120mm fans http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... but I noticed they are 3 pin fans, meaning from what I understand they attach to the mobo. I also see they come with a, what looks like, a 3 pin to 4 pin molex adapter, which is all well and good. But it seems that if you use the molex adapter you wont be able to run power through the fan, since a lot of the fans I have looked at come with a male and female molex plugs so it does not take up a molex spot and you can run the power right through it. So, is there a way to tell if the mobo I am going to buy has 3 pin connectors for the fans, and if so, how many? This is the mobo I am looking at, I linked it above but I will link it again http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... If I cant connect 2 or 3 fans to that mobo then it seems like I will have to buy some molex splitters to make it work since I dont think I can run power through those fans using the molex adapter.
Thanks for any info.


Don't worry it will work I made a tread about the same question your asking about a week ago

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...

hope this answers your question.
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October 10, 2010 12:23:12 AM

ITsonic said:
Don't worry it will work I made a tread about the same question your asking about a week ago

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...

hope this answers your question.


Well, Im not gonna lie. I am not up on computer lingo, for instance I dont know what a PWM-pin is or where it is or what it does, so I did not understand half of that thread. But are you at least saying that I can plug some 3 pin fans into that mobo? Is there any way to tell how many I can plug in?
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October 10, 2010 3:12:50 AM

If you're buying that Gigbayte, it has 3 headers for 3-pin fans, so no need to worry about molexes.

WHat PSU is it? If it doesn't have enough molexes, I doubt its strong enough to handle an OC.
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October 10, 2010 3:19:28 AM

Timop said:
If you're buying that Gigbayte, it has 3 headers for 3-pin fans, so no need to worry about molexes.

WHat PSU is it? If it doesn't have enough molexes, I doubt its strong enough to handle an OC.


I am not sure of the brand but I do know it is 500 watt. And now that I think about it I believe it does have 1 molex free at the moment. Also forgot to mention that I already have a case fan hooked up to the psu already so that is why there is little room.
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October 11, 2010 7:55:45 PM

Hey Im back with another question. I noticed that the mobo that I am going to buy (linked in the OP) has the plug for the psu at the top of it and the cases I am looking at (linked in the OP) are made for bottom mounting your psu. My question is, will the power chord for a psu be able to reach from the bottom of the case to the top of the mobo to plug in? This case I have atm is top mounted for the psu so I have not ran into this problem yet and thought I would get some opinions. thanks.
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October 12, 2010 4:00:48 PM

Generally the PSU wires are plenty long, so don't worry about that part.
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October 12, 2010 4:32:35 PM

bCubed said:
Generally the PSU wires are plenty long, so don't worry about that part.


Thanks.
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October 12, 2010 10:21:03 PM

Question about the cooler master hyper 212. I was was looking at a review on youtube for a case I am considering http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and it just so happens the review uses the case with a build that uses the hyper 212+, and according to the review you will have no room for top fans on your case if you mount the heatsink horizontally, or if you mount it vertically with another fan on the top side of the heatsink. This worries me because I wanted to have good air flow and have 2 fans on my heatsink for a pull push config as well as 2 top case fans. is this a common problem with the hyper 212 plus or so I just need to find a taller case?
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October 13, 2010 1:12:17 AM

I don't think you need a teller you should be fine.
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October 13, 2010 8:13:00 PM

You should be fine, the Hyper 212+ isn't that huge. Can you link to the review though.
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October 13, 2010 8:57:13 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB-C_YkA0wk

That is the review, it shows the problem with the 212 and the top fan space starting at 3:25. If someone could take a glance at it and let me know for sure that would be cool. Maybe his mobo is odd or something, but in that vid you cant fir a normal 120MM case fan there.
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