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[Solved] Advice on Card for Budget Gaming machine: Asus 4850 for $90?

Forum Graphics & Displays : Graphics Cards [Solved] Advice on Card for Budget Gaming machine: Asus 4850 for $90?

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I'm building a budget gaming machine to play WoW and then to watch downloaded movies/TV in HD. The current card I'm considering is:ASUS CuCore Series EAH4850 CUCORE TOP/2DI/1GD3 Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX ...

Thoughts on this card? Any better suggestion for around $100 or less?

Thanks in advance!

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: ASAP
BUDGET RANGE: <$110 - Really, the least expensive card to meet my needs

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: WoW, downloaded movies in 720p

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC ...


OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS:
MSI 760GM-E51 AM3 AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor ADX435WFGIBOX
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: None

OVERCLOCKING: No
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080, 1920x1200


Message edited by zalick on 06-28-2010 at 09:51:56 AM
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No, it's 5770/4870, 4850/5750.

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PsychoSaysdie wrote :

4850 is a good card today. Comparable to a 5770




That Asus is $110 and 256bit. Is this 5750 better for the same price? I don't know what 128 v. 256bit does for the card...

POWERCOLOR AX5750 1GBD5-H Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

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For the same price I would get the 5750, DX11, and lower heat/power-consumption.

Reply to sabot00

The powercolor has a $20 rebate, so that alone is worth getting them.
Newegg has a fine return policy and customer support, so I wouldn't worry about vendor.

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Well, if you game a lot most bugs are noticed with-in 30 days, but that's up to OP to decide, save 20 bucks or spend an extra 20 bucks on better customer support after 30 days.

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sabot00 wrote :

For the same price I would get the 5750, DX11, and lower heat/power-consumption.



Do you think its better to get a 256bit card? Does the higher throughput make that much of a difference or is 128bit satisfactory?

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You should get the 4850, preferably the 1GB version.ASUS products are generally good.The card you've chosen is a good one, it is 90$ with rebate and comes overclocked.Getting the 5750 is only justified if you want DX 11, but for your needs it is not important and the 4850 performs slightly better due to its 256 bit bus width.The 4850 is the king at 100$ price point.You should definitely get one.

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Overall the HD 4850 is just a tiny bit faster than the HD 5750.

However, the HD 5750 has DX11 (not a big deal to me), and more importantly it's power consumption is less than half of the HD 4850 (44w vs. 110w) under typical gaming conditions.

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Tamz_msc wrote :

You should get the 4850, preferably the 1GB version.ASUS products are generally good.The card you've chosen is a good one, it is 90$ with rebate and comes overclocked.Getting the 5750 is only justified if you want DX 11, but for your needs it is not important and the 4850 performs slightly better due to its 256 bit bus width.The 4850 is the king at 100$ price point.You should definitely get one.




Thanks!

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jaguarskx wrote :

Overall the HD 4850 is just a tiny bit faster than the HD 5750.

However, the HD 5750 has DX11 (not a big deal to me), and more importantly it's power consumption is less than half of the HD 4850 (44w vs. 110w) under typical gaming conditions.



My typical conditions are a little WoW and then just watching movies/tv shows. No other games. Will the extra watts just contribute to a bit more heat? I should have plenty of power with my PSU. Are there other benefits to less power consumption?


Message edited by zalick on 06-28-2010 at 09:55:59 AM
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WoW is not a game that requires huge amounts of GPU horsepower.For your use, the
4850 is fine in terms of power consumption and heat.The extra 30$ for the 5750 is only justified if you want DirectX 11.Otherwise the 4850 is more than enough for your need.But do get the 1 GB version.

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The extra 30$ for the 5750 is only justified if you want DirectX 11.Otherwise the 4850 is more than enough for your need.But do get the 1 GB version.



dx11 gaming @ 1080p/1200p with a 5750 would be comparable to an audi R8 with a sub 100bhp engine. in other words, it would suck.

since you're WoW crazy, that 4850 would do you good (but not great)even with a little occasional non-wow games.

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Tamz_msc wrote :

WoW is not a game that requires huge amounts of GPU horsepower.For your use, the
4850 is fine in terms of power consumption and heat.The extra 30$ for the 5750 is only justified if you want DirectX 11.Otherwise the 4850 is more than enough for your need.But do get the 1 GB version.




Thanks again. I'm going with the Asus 4850.

Also, Dark Side is the best album ever!

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Tamz_msc wrote :

the 4850 performs slightly better due to its 256 bit bus width.


This is entirely incorrect. The HD4850 does NOT perform better than the HD5750 and in fact has inferior memory bandwidth. The HD4850 does have a 256 bit bus vs the 128 bit bus of the HD5750 but it also uses DDR3 as opposed to the faster DDR5 of the HD5750. In the end the memory bandwidth of the HD5750 is 73.6 gb/s while the HD4850 is at 63.6 gb/s. In terms of performance the HD5750 is also on average 7-10% faster but it has more to do with their respective processors than anything to do with the memory. On top of this the HD5750 also uses approximately half as much power under load and 1/3rd as much in idle and is DX11 compatible. DX11 doesn't matter for WoW but if you might play any other games it is a nice feature to have. The HD5750 supports 3 monitors and has more advanced audio/video playback features if you are going to be watching movies on an HDTV and/or connecting the card to a receiver for audio.
All of that said the HD4850 may in fact be the better buy depending on how much money you have to spend. It's a judgment call you need to make yourself but you should do so with accurate information about your options.

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zalick wrote :

Thanks again. I'm going with the Asus 4850.

Also, Dark Side is the best album ever!


Thanks for the comment.We are always ready to help.

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