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June 16, 2010 2:46:43 PM

i have the following configuration......... AMD Phenom II 965 (BE) processor ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO M/B 2x 2gb DDR3 RAM 2x 500gb HDD 600W power supply I wanted to know whether a Nvidia graphic card wud wrk fine on my system ?? e.g gtx 480,470,465 or gtx 275,295 wich 1 wud wrk bttr ???? or is it necessary to use an ATI card only ....... i want to play games like POP forgotten sands,Assassins Creed 2,bioshock,just cause 2 etc on 1600x900 resolution..... Thanks in advance......... :) 

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a c 169 U Graphics card
June 16, 2010 2:48:12 PM

Well for that res,even a HD 5770 suffices.It can handle games fine on that res.
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a b U Graphics card
June 16, 2010 2:58:08 PM

ATI and Nvidia will work fine.

At your resolution a 480 would be massive overkill (as would the ATI 5870)

The 470 would also be more than is required but it is close to the 5850 in performance so is a possible option though is rather expensive.

The most powerful you would need would be an ATI 5850 (which is a bit weaker than a GTX470)

I would not get the GTX465 as it simply is not a good card for its price. The ATI 5830 also tends to be overpriced for its performance (though if you find it at a good deal it is worth thinking about).

An ATI 5770 is cheap and would do well at your resolution

I would not go with any GTX200 card as they are old tech and still overpriced.

So, a cheap option would be the 5770, a more powerful option would be the 5850 or the GTX470 (good if you plan on getting a better monitor at some point)
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June 16, 2010 7:02:54 PM

how can i overclock 5830........?
have it same procedure as hd 4870, hd 4890 and hd 5770?
i have read during my search on net that AMD has block overclocking on hd 5830 due to some reasons... is it right?

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a c 125 U Graphics card
June 16, 2010 7:30:42 PM

Nothing is really massive overkill for Metro 2033 or Crysis. 1600x900 isn't that far off from 1620x1080 and in both these games my CF 5850s are going hard. For your typical game, then yeah my CF 5850s run at maybe 50% so a single 5850 would be taxed pretty hard. I'd recommend 5850 or 470. Whichever brand you like more but IMO Nvidia is behind in this generation.
If you're not a demanding gamer, save some cash go with a 5770 or I guess a 465.
If you are demanding my first recommendations stand, but you certainly could get a 5870 or 480. Basically any card should run on your system and with a 600W PSU. But you might be limited if you try to SLI/CF high end cards.
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June 17, 2010 3:12:34 PM

but i hav hrd dat nvidia cards nt compatible wid amd processors !!! :( 
so 1 shud stick to ati :( 

is it tru ????????
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June 17, 2010 3:33:20 PM

n abt phyx n cuda...........
batman ark asy wrks only on nvidia because of phyx rite ????
so i wanted nvidia !!!!!
plz help......
cost no constraint.........:) 
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a b U Graphics card
June 17, 2010 3:40:12 PM

Please don't talk like that unless you're actually texting in that reply...


Check the chipset on the motherboard and what it accepts. The intel I series takes both ATI and NV but im not sure about AMD's latest motherboards, you might be stuck only to ATI (not like thats a bad thing atm).

Physx is a small, proprietary API by NV that Devs use to create better effects, but if you dont have an NV card, the same effects are processed by software so its no real loss if you have a decent CPU.

Cost no constraint? A 4GB 5970, about £600 but amazing.
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June 17, 2010 3:54:17 PM

silly to ask but i'm confused still........

i'm nt talkin abt effects..........
i want game 2 run on 1600 x 900 smoothly
my frnd said batman aa didnt wrk on his pc because it said no phyx .......
he has HD 4200
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June 17, 2010 4:20:11 PM

Here's the deal, both a GTX 470 and a 5850 will run games smoothly at 1600X900...

GTX 470 has: PhysX, 3D Surround Vision, CUDA (Similar to Eyefinity) as it's features, but it also costs 50$ more than a 5850 and it uses more power, therefore running hotter, mine idles at 45C and games up to 85C, very good card though.

5850 has: Eyefinity, Cooler temperatures and most motherboards prefer XFire over SLI. However it does NOT support PhysX, 3D. It will run much cooler and use a fraction of the power.

Overall both are good on their Performance:Value ratio. Depends on what features you want and what you want to spend, as previously stated BOTH will run games smoothly at 1600X900!!!

Good Luck!

P.S. - The GTX 470 has a minimal .25GB more of RAM, just remembered that.
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a c 125 U Graphics card
June 17, 2010 4:39:42 PM

PhysX hardware acceleration specifically doesn't run on ATI cards. You can still play games with PhysX, you just don't get a little extra eye candy. The list of games that uses actual hardware acceleration is about 11 games. Batman AA, Metro 2033, Mirror's Edge, Cryostasis, Dark Void, Darkest of Days... these are probably the biggest games with it. It's really not a big deal, but if you really, really want it you can do what I did and run an Nvidia card as a standalone PhysX card with ATI cards as the actual rendering cards... it's not a supported feature so you need to download a patch to get it working but it does work.
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June 19, 2010 2:00:27 PM

kk so i'm goin either for 470,480 or 5850,5950.............
i've HAF 932 cabinet with 2 big fans,1 regular size.........will dis b enough for 470/480 temperatures ?????
a 600W psu.......enough ????
i dnt plan to use SLI or XFire..........

TEMME WHETHER NVIDIA 470/480 WILL WORK ON MY MOBO


AMD Phenom II 965 BE proc......

my mobo has foll.........
Specifications:


CPU AMD Socket AM3 ;Phenom™II /Athlon™II /Sempron™ 100 Series Processors
AMD Cool 'n' Quiet™ Technology
Supports 45nm CPU
Chipset AMD 785G/SB710
System Bus Up to 5200 MT/s HyperTransport™ 3.0
Memory 4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR3 1800(O.C.)*/1600(O.C.)/1333/1066/800 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory
Dual Channel memory architecture
*Due to OS limitation, when installing total memory of 4GB capacity or more, Windows® 32-bit operation system may only recognize less than 3GB. Install a 64-bit WindowsWindows® OS when you want to install 4GB or more memory on the motherboard.
Expansion Slots 2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (blue @ x16 mode,gray @ x4 mode)
2 x PCIe x1
3 x PCI
VGA Integrated ATI Radeon™ HD 4200 GPU
SidePort Memory - onboard 128MB DDR3 1333 memory
- Supports HDMI™ Technology with max. resolution up to 1920 x 1200 (1080P)
- Supports Dual-link DVI with max. resolution up to 2560x1600 @60Hz
- Supports D-Sub with max. resolution up to 2048x1536 @85Hz
- Hybrid CrossFireX™ Support
- Dual independent displays support with HDMI / DVI and D-Sub
- Supports Microsoft® DirectX 10.1, OpenGL 2.0, Shader Model 4.1
- Hardware Decode Acceleration for H.264,VC-1, and MPEG-2
- Maximum shared memory of 512MB
Storage SB710 Chipset
1 xUltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices
5 xSATA 3 Gb/s ports Support RAID 0,1,10,JBOD
1 x eSATA 3Gb/s port
LAN RTL8112L Gigabit LAN controller featuring AI NET 2
Audio VT1708S 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
- Supports Jack-Detection, Multi-Streaming, and Front Panel Jack-Retasking
- Optical S/PDIF Out ports at back I/O
IEEE 1394 VT6308P controller supports 2 x 1394a ports (1 at mid-board; 1 at back panel)
USB 12 USB 2.0/1.1 ports (6 ports at mid-board, 6 ports at back panel)
ASUS Unique Features ASUS Power Solutions:
- 8+2 Phase Power Design
ASUS Green Design:
- EPU
Express Gate
ASUS Quiet Thermal Solution:
- ASUS Fanless Design: Stylish heat sink solution
- ASUS Q-Fan
ASUS EZ DIY:
- ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3
- ASUS MyLogo 2
- ASUS EZ Flash 2
Overclocking Features Intelligent overclocking tools
- Turbo V
- GPU NOS
- Turbo Key
SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection)
- FSB tuning from 200MHz up to 550MHz at 1MHz increment
- PCI Express frequency tuning from 100MHz up to 150MHz at 1MHz increment
Overclocking Protection
- ASUS C.P.R.(CPU Parameter Recall)
Special Features 100% All High-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors
AMD OverDrive Support*
*Advanced cooling system is required when advanced overclock functions of AMD OverDrive are enabled.
Back Panel I/O Ports 1 x PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse Combo port
1 x DVI
1 x D-Sub
1 x HDMI
1 x External SATA
1 x S/PDIF Out (Optical)
1 x IEEE 1394a
1 x LAN(RJ45) port
6 x USB 2.0/1.1
8 -Channel Audio I/O
Internal I/O Connectors 3 x USB connectors (6 ports)
1 x COM connector
1 x IDE connector
5 x SATA connectors
1 x CPU Fan connector
1 x Chassis Fan connectors
1 x Power Fan connector
Front panel audio connector
1 x IEEE 1394a connector
1 x S/PDIF Out Header
1x LPT connector
24-pin ATX Power connector
4-pin ATX 12V Power connector
System Panel
BIOS 8 Mb Flash ROM AMI BIOS, PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.3, ACPI 2.0a, ASUS EZ Flash 2, ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3
Manageability WOL by PME,WOR by PME,WOR by Ring,PXE
Accessories User's manual
1 x I/O Shield
1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 cable
4 x SATA cable(s)
1 x Q-Connector
Support Disc Drivers
ASUS PC Probe II
Express Gate
Anti-virus software (OEM version)
ASUS Update
AMD OverDrive Utility (AOD)
Form Factor ATX Form Factor
12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm )


betn......thnx guys...........esp jammert 19 n wolfram 23 !!!!!!!
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June 19, 2010 2:43:44 PM

but is 470/480 compatible with my mobo/process combo ??????
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a c 169 U Graphics card
June 19, 2010 2:44:03 PM

Yes a HAF 932 can fit in either 470/480.
And a 600W PSU suffices(what are the specs though?)
Also there is no need to post 3 replies.(I put all of your replies in one post)
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June 19, 2010 2:51:20 PM

srry for 2 reply but wat abt temp ????
plz tell dat too........

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a c 169 U Graphics card
June 19, 2010 4:17:58 PM

Yes your motherboard supports a 470/480 and your CPU is fine.
And as for temp,HAF 932 is a great case in terms of cooling,so you'll be fine.
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June 19, 2010 4:42:12 PM

^+1 470/480 will run smooth on that motherboard, the case will be fine with cooling. Make sure you adjust nVidia's default settings, they suck for the fan options. The fan needs to be higher or the card will run a bit hotter. A good program to fix it is MSI Afterburner, you can set custom fan speed curves for performance vs. idle, it's been helpful to me, my card rarely goes above 85*C and it performs amazing!

Good luck with whatever you choose!

P.S. - Make sure whatever card you choose goes in the blue PCI-E slot, it's got 16x support which is much better than the grey 4x slot.
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June 22, 2010 1:52:16 PM

1 last advice...........

would i'll be able to play games for atleast 2 more years with gtx 470........at all settings maxed n resolution 1600x900x32 ???

i hav opted for 470 than 480..........price/perf ratio...........did right na ????
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a c 169 U Graphics card
June 22, 2010 3:00:27 PM

For that res,a GTX 470 suffices,there is no need to go with a GTX 480.
And no one can tell you that you can play games maxed out in 2 years because we don't know the specs of those games,but it will handle them fine,don't worry
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June 23, 2010 7:18:24 AM

kk.............thnks ppl.............evry1.........

I cant decide a best ans because evry1 has contributed equally...........

SO THNK U TO EVRY1 !!!!!!!!!!!

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June 27, 2010 6:04:49 PM

:bounce: 

will my gtx 470 fit in my HAF 922 ????? :heink: 
and what abt cooling statistics of the cabinet...........can it handle the gpu temperatures ?? :whistle: 

and it has coolermaster xtreme power+ 600W power supply..............m4a785td-v evo mobo................no problem with power chords na ?????? :heink: 
i'm asking because i read something abt 2 6pin chords etc which i couldnt understand !!!!!!!!!! :o 

:bounce: 
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a c 125 U Graphics card
June 27, 2010 6:10:00 PM

Your PSU worries me, 70% typical efficiency and only 36Amps :/  It might be ok.... Risky though.

Your HAF will have no problem accommodating the GTX470 or cooling it.
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a b U Graphics card
June 27, 2010 6:11:47 PM

Here is how to install a graphics card. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9x097QRXeA
Video cards (some) require external power connectors, the 470 needs 2 ~6 pin connectors. Which that psu has. You see them attach 1 in that video.
Yes it will fit also.
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June 27, 2010 6:26:45 PM

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Your PSU worries me, 70% typical efficiency and only 36Amps :/  It might be ok.... Risky though.

Your HAF will have no problem accommodating the GTX470 or cooling it.


how will 36 amps affect the card ???? :sweat: 

and what abt voltage ???? :heink: 
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June 27, 2010 6:48:44 PM

i chked............voltage is ok but wat couldnt understand anything abt 36 amps and 70% eff...................
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June 28, 2010 7:42:33 AM

guys plz reply quickly.......................how will 36 amps affect the card ????
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a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 8:06:34 AM

36*12=432.

so the PSU is only capable of supplying 430w on the 12v rail. i have no idea how much the 470 draws, but theoretically that should be enough

however i had the 650w version of that PSU, and it was unable to supply my 4890 adequately.

CM PSUs are generally pretty crappy, and the PSU is the most important part of a system. grab a corsair tx650 and see how you will be much better off.

EDIT: ahhh, just checked the specs and my mistake, its not 36a on the 12v, its 18a on two 12v rails. so yeah, thats a really crappy PSU,. with only 18a on the 12v. not good, i wouldn't trust it with a 470.
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June 28, 2010 8:43:02 AM

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36*12=432.

so the PSU is only capable of supplying 430w on the 12v rail. i have no idea how much the 470 draws, but theoretically that should be enough

however i had the 650w version of that PSU, and it was unable to supply my 4890 adequately.

CM PSUs are generally pretty crappy, and the PSU is the most important part of a system. grab a corsair tx650 and see how you will be much better off.

EDIT: ahhh, just checked the specs and my mistake, its not 36a on the 12v, its 18a on two 12v rails. so yeah, thats a really crappy PSU,. with only 18a on the 12v. not good, i wouldn't trust it with a 470.



thats really sad for me................... :( 
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June 28, 2010 8:52:08 AM

well 1st i had decided a gtx 470 but i hav issues with my cm xtreme power+ 600W power supply............................... :( 
so i decided a just for time being gpu....................my Q is will i be able to play batman aa , assassis creed , pop forgotten sands , crysis etc games on a nvidia 9400 , 9500 , 9800 etc............my resolution is 1600x900.............also will it be compatible with my amd phenom ii 965 be 3.4 ghz processor and m4a785td-v evo mobo , psu mentd above......4 gb ram ????????? :??: 
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a c 376 U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 9:07:23 AM

None of the cards you mentioned are really appropriate for your resolution. My recommendation would be an HD5770 which will perform very well.
Or you could go for an HD5850. It's cheaper than the GTX 470 and will crush 1600x900, especially if you overclock which the card does very well.
A 600w PSU should handle either of them easily and the rest of your system is fine.
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June 28, 2010 9:16:28 AM

but ati does not have phyx so batman aa wont work rite.............and what abt 12v-18A ??
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June 28, 2010 9:22:44 AM

plz suggest nvidia gpus................
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a c 172 U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 9:30:14 AM

Where do you see only 18A Welsh? I found a review of that PSU online and it shows 18A on two rails, but there is no total figure. Could be 22A, 36A, or anything really. We know each rail by itself can do 18A, but there is no data at all about what they can do together.

Add in the voltage selector switch, Group regulated design, 70% efficiency, and the fact its a CM, I'd get something else. Sell it to a noob and get a good one.
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a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 10:39:15 AM

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Where do you see only 18A Welsh? I found a review of that PSU online and it shows 18A on two rails, but there is no total figure. Could be 22A, 36A, or anything really. We know each rail by itself can do 18A, but there is no data at all about what they can do together.

Add in the voltage selector switch, Group regulated design, 70% efficiency, and the fact its a CM, I'd get something else. Sell it to a noob and get a good one.


yeah, ive just rechecked (on the CM website) and i was right the first time, fail edit. two 18a rails. so it should in effect be able to power a 470. but like i said, i had to replace my CM 650w because it was failing to supply a 4890. so would still agree it needs replacing.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 11:21:24 AM

No, you will be able to play Batman just fine. You will just be missing a few environmental effects like fog, and moving paper. It really isn't a very big deal and certainly nothing to choose your video card based on.
Are you saying your PSU only has 18 amps on the +12v rail? That is extremely low for 600w PSU. Are you sure it doesn't have two 18 amp rails? What is the brand/model number?
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a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 12:11:31 PM

well i'm glad there's another nvidia fan here....

i run a GTX 260 with a 600 W power supply running at 1680 x 1050, and i had absolutely no problem with running those games (I must say you have an excellent choice in games there-played them all... loved them all!)

your CPU is good enough, yet i'm a huge intel fan, but you should have any problem there!!

the GTX 260 isn't as pricey as the GTX 470 or 480 but will still give you the 3D enhancements, physx additions and great FPS in each game.

this is my recommendation, from personal experience....

Dane (South Africa)
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June 28, 2010 12:19:59 PM

jyjjy said:
No, you will be able to play Batman just fine. You will just be missing a few environmental effects like fog, and moving paper. It really isn't a very big deal and certainly nothing to choose your video card based on.
Are you saying your PSU only has 18 amps on the +12v rail? That is extremely low for 600w PSU. Are you sure it doesn't have two 18 amp rails? What is the brand/model number?


it has 2 18 amp rails but r u sure thats enough for a gtx 470 ??
some1 told me its not.......(i hope i get some good news here)
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June 28, 2010 12:21:42 PM

Dane Bouwer said:
well i'm glad there's another nvidia fan here....

i run a GTX 260 with a 600 W power supply running at 1680 x 1050, and i had absolutely no problem with running those games (I must say you have an excellent choice in games there-played them all... loved them all!)

your CPU is good enough, yet i'm a huge intel fan, but you should have any problem there!!

the GTX 260 isn't as pricey as the GTX 470 or 480 but will still give you the 3D enhancements, physx additions and great FPS in each game.

this is my recommendation, from personal experience....

Dane (South Africa)


i love nvidia............!!!!!!!!!!!!
frm personal experience !!!!!!
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a c 376 U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 1:22:49 PM

Adwait said:
it has 2 18 amp rails but r u sure thats enough for a gtx 470 ??
some1 told me its not.......(i hope i get some good news here)

No, I wouldn't try the GTX 470. What I was recommending was the HD5770 or HD5850 which will both be fine for your PSU.
You could get a GTX 260 like Dane suggested. It will perform well for your resolution but they are quite overpriced. They perform similarly to the HD5770 but usually cost $30-50 more. In exchange for paying more you'll get older tech that is much more power hungry and you'll lose DX11 compatibility which is a bad trade off to get PhysX imo. PhysX has been around for a number of years and there are approximately 3 games I can think of where it makes a worthwhile difference. The proprietary nature of hardware accelerated PhysX makes it quite unpopular with developers. Despite being much newer there are already more games that make worthwhile use of DX11 and that will only increase in the future.
If you love Nvidia and are unwilling to consider ATI then basically you need a new power supply. The only card they make above $100 that is worth purchasing right now is the GTX 470 and running that card on your current PSU is a sketchy proposition.
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June 28, 2010 6:15:20 PM

jyjjy said:
No, I wouldn't try the GTX 470. What I was recommending was the HD5770 or HD5850 which will both be fine for your PSU.
You could get a GTX 260 like Dane suggested. It will perform well for your resolution but they are quite overpriced. They perform similarly to the HD5770 but usually cost $30-50 more. In exchange for paying more you'll get older tech that is much more power hungry and you'll lose DX11 compatibility which is a bad trade off to get PhysX imo. PhysX has been around for a number of years and there are approximately 3 games I can think of where it makes a worthwhile difference. The proprietary nature of hardware accelerated PhysX makes it quite unpopular with developers. Despite being much newer there are already more games that make worthwhile use of DX11 and that will only increase in the future.
If you love Nvidia and are unwilling to consider ATI then basically you need a new power supply. The only card they make above $100 that is worth purchasing right now is the GTX 470 and running that card on your current PSU is a sketchy proposition.



hmmmm...........thats sad !!!!!!!!!
how will it affect my gpu ???????
i mean the less amp supply...............i tried asking people but couldnt understand anything !!!!!!!
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June 28, 2010 6:20:26 PM

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yeah, ive just rechecked (on the CM website) and i was right the first time, fail edit. two 18a rails. so it should in effect be able to power a 470. but like i said, i had to replace my CM 650w because it was failing to supply a 4890. so would still agree it needs replacing.



so u saying it kinda would work for my 470 ??????
(plz give me good news !!!!! lol )
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a c 376 U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 6:22:52 PM

Well if your power supply doesn't have enough power for the card then usually the system will simply refuse to start up with the card installed. Sometimes the system will start up but when you go to play a game the computer will shut down because that is when the card needs more power to function.
Even if the card does actually work you will be pushing the PSU to the limit of its capabilities which usually causes a PSU to fail and stop working altogether before too long.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 6:26:13 PM

Adwait please stop making different threads about the same subject.
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a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 6:27:57 PM

That psu isn't great or anything but it will run fine with that psu. Im running i5 750 @4.0ghz, sli gtx 260 overclocked all on a 2 year old antec ea 500w.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 6:28:37 PM

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EVGA GTX 470 - 329.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ABS 850W - 129.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would not even consider a 5850 with prices like this on the 470's. Problem is your PSU as it only supplies 36 amps when you need 38-40A.

This guy isn't in the US so prices here don't really help him. Was an HD5850 on newegg for $270 up until just yesterday anyway so the relative prices of the HD5850 vs GTX 470 haven't really changed. This guy isn't in the US so prices here don't really help him. Was an HD5850 on newegg for $270 up until just yesterday anyway so the relative prices of the HD5850 vs GTX 470 haven't really changed.
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June 28, 2010 6:57:32 PM

invisik said:
That psu isn't great or anything but it will run fine with that psu. Im running i5 750 @4.0ghz, sli gtx 260 overclocked all on a 2 year old antec ea 500w.



its not that i dont believe u mate(because thats good news for me......lol) but others are saying that it has just 2 12v 18A rails which makes 36A which they say is 4A less than recommended..................so it would affect my gpu................neway i'm just gonna play at 1600X900..........so would it matter ?????

plz giv me a direct and clear answer(unlike others.........lol) about compatibility and effects............plz !!!!!
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June 28, 2010 6:59:05 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Adwait please stop making different threads about the same subject.



k sorry................lol

i just got hyper n nervous on reading my psu is not good !!!!!!!!
:) 
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a c 376 U Graphics card
June 28, 2010 7:08:58 PM

Adwait said:
its not that i dont believe u mate(because thats good news for me......lol) but others are saying that it has just 2 12v 18A rails which makes 36A which they say is 4A less than recommended..................

You should believe him. The thing his PSU is actually much better than yours despite being "500w." Antec is one of the best brands you can buy and the EA-500w PSU he is talking about actually has two 22a +12v rails. And when Antec says that you can believe them. Your PSU says it has two 18a rails but whether that is actually the case is very questionable.
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June 28, 2010 7:16:50 PM

jyjjy said:
You should believe him. The thing his PSU is actually much better than yours despite being "500w." Antec is one of the best brands you can buy and the EA-500w PSU he is talking about actually has two 22a +12v rails. And when Antec says that you can believe them. Your PSU says it has two 18a rails but whether that is actually the case is very questionable.



when i said abt believing him....................i meant abt my psu..................he said it would work for gtx 470...............others say it wont..........

and wat do u mean by questionable ??????
that it might be more n work for me ????
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June 28, 2010 7:25:30 PM

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Yes a HAF 932 can fit in either 470/480.
And a 600W PSU suffices(what are the specs though?)
Also there is no need to post 3 replies.(I put all of your replies in one post)



specs.............
2 12v 18a rails................so 36A in all...................ppl say it wont work(my other thread)...............wat say u ?????
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