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[Solved] Core 2 Duo vs Core 2 Quad for Gaming

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I just purchased a GTX 460 768MB and was wondering whether my C2D E7500@2.93GHz is bottlenecking the card.My motherboard is a Socket 775 (Motherboard Model: MS-7525) board by MSI. I would overclock it but the BIOS has absolutely no tweaking options at all.

My MB specs are here
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc [...] =c01386897

The specs say it can only support E4xxx and 7xxx CPUs, but since a Core 2 Quad is also based on Socket 775 architecture would,for example, a Q6600 or Q8300 work with my current motherboard? Also, will there be a significant performance increase for Dawn Of War II, Starcraft II, Dragon Age, Crysis etc?


Please click on the link for the specs. Appreciate the help.

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If you socket is s775 that didint mean that you can use core2quad

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Ndx wrote :

If you socket is s775 that didint mean that you can use core2quad



No.

Just because the C2Q will physically fit in the socket, it's down to the BIOS on the motherboard to recognise the CPU and work with it. If the BIOS doesn't recognise it, you're out of luck. There's also thermal design issues to consider as well.

Same can be said for the early 775 boards when the Pentium 4 moved to that socket - just because you can fit a C2Q in a first generation socket 775 mobo don't expect the C2Q to work.

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It is an OEM mobo therefore its functionalities are severely crippled and locked by bios.Since according to there website quad core cpus are not listed,which means it is not supported.So you are out of luck mate.


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Reply to malmental

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It is an OEM mobo therefore its functionalities are severely crippled and locked by bios.Since according to there website quad core cpus are not listed,which means it is not supported.So you are out of luck mate.


oh...so what's the best upgrade i can get?

Reply to cs342

The site you linked to has a "Processor upgrade information" section that can be expanded. It states the following:

Quote :


Socket type: 775
Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:
Core 2 Duo E7xxx (Wolfdale-M)
Core 2 Duo E4x00 (Conroe)
Pentium E2xxx series (Conroe)
Celeron Dual Core E1xx0 series (Conroe)
Celeron 4xx series (Conroe)



I think the fastest E7xxx CPU is the E7600 which runs at 3.06Gz. That is a very minor upgrade from your E7500 and will cost you $150 to do so. It is not worth it.

E7600 from Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115059

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jaguarskx wrote :

The site you linked to has a "Processor upgrade information" section that can be expanded. It states the following:

Quote :


Socket type: 775
Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:
Core 2 Duo E7xxx (Wolfdale-M)
Core 2 Duo E4x00 (Conroe)
Pentium E2xxx series (Conroe)
Celeron Dual Core E1xx0 series (Conroe)
Celeron 4xx series (Conroe)



I think the fastest E7xxx CPU is the E7600 which runs at 3.06Gz. That is a very minor upgrade from your E7500 and will cost you $150 to do so. It is not worth it.

E7600 from Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115059




I really don't think that's worth the money.
Will my current system (3GB DDR2-800, GTX 460, MB with no OC settings, USB2.0, PCI-e 1.0) last long, or should I build a new one?

Reply to cs342

I've had this system for about a year now, but only recently upgraded from an ATI 4350 to the GTX 460

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cs342 wrote :

I've had this system for about a year now, but only recently upgraded from an ATI 4350 to the GTX 460


that's a nice upgrade..

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Reply to malmental

Well, I needed a new graphics card... anyways please post some suggestions on a budget gaming system ($400-500) that retains my GTX 460.

Reply to cs342

so you're not really interested in just upgrading your cpu now.?
intel or and. with a gtx460 i suggest intel.
maybe just me but that's my opinion..

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Reply to malmental

Intel is way too overpriced... you can get a 1090T for just $200

Reply to cs342

and that's true, I just don't like amd and then nVidia cards unless nVidia chipset.
just my opinion is all.
enjoy your set-up and run it hard.
FYI
I'd rather have a higher clock speed triple or quad cor then a lower clocked hexa.
so go for the most powerful you can get for the money you have to spend.


Message edited by malmental on 10-14-2010 at 01:04:56 AM
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Reply to malmental

Will the new AMD CPUs be Socket AM3?

Reply to cs342

dude, i'm not really sure yet. i keep hearing am3+ socket and some other variations of such.
i should probably research that myself but I'm kind of waiting how all this Bulldozer and SandyBridge stuff goes upon release..


Message edited by malmental on 10-14-2010 at 01:35:09 AM
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Reply to malmental

I'm way more excited about SandyBridge than Bulldozer. Intel is calling it the greatest jump in CPU technology in the history of mankind, so it should be pretty amazing... I'd hate to see the day when integrated graphics eliminates the need for graphics cards though... although I'm sure that day will never come because as integrated graphics get better and better, so do dedicated graphics.

Reply to cs342

I'm way more excited about SandyBridge than Bulldozer. Intel is calling it the greatest jump in CPU technology in the history of mankind, so it should be pretty amazing... I'd hate to see the day when integrated graphics eliminates the need for graphics cards though... although I'm sure that day will never come because as integrated graphics get better and better, so do dedicated graphics.

Reply to cs342

to me it's 50-50, so I guess I'm going to wait and see.

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Reply to malmental

I hope the new Intel CPUs aren't as overpriced.

Reply to cs342

at first release they will be..

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Reply to malmental

AMD's CPUs are never overpriced though... but I was wondering whether it's because AMD processors aren't as fast as their Intel counterparts? An AMD hexa-core costs around the same as a Core i5-750, so which processor is better?

Reply to cs342

depends on intended usage.

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Reply to malmental

of which cpu is better....
it depends on intended usage.

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Reply to malmental

First and foremost, are you experiencing any bottlenecks.? If not then just stick with your existing setup.. Or atleast stick with it till the SandyBridge line of CPU's launch.. Even if you wont be able to afford them, it might bring about a dip in the current existing prices from both the camps giving you more (and possibly better) options to choose from for your budget..

Reply to Emperus

seriously, that CPU will run any game available today with good performance, so whats the problem? You would only see minor FPS increases at lower resolutions by upgrading to an e 8600


Message edited by iam2thecrowe on 10-22-2010 at 12:09:29 AM
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AMD's CPUs are never overpriced though... but I was wondering whether it's because AMD processors aren't as fast as their Intel counterparts? An AMD hexa-core costs around the same as a Core i5-750, so which processor is better?




Maximum PC's latest issue did a compare of the 1090T and an i5-760 and they recommend the i5 for all applications UNLESS it's a program that can take advantage of all 6 cores simultaneously. And with the price being comparable, my opinion is any quad core that can take on a hexacore and win is the brains I want running my rig...

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So what do you think? Is the E7500 a good gaming CPU? I really don't want to waste money on anything that will give me less than a 10FPS increase in games or a 15% increase in processing speed.

Reply to cs342

Spend the extra bucks and get an i5-750 or 760. You'll be happier in the end.

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Reply to scottiemedic

How much performance will I get? And my MB doesn't support so that's why I'm asking because I don't want to waste money

Reply to cs342

Even the i5-750 kills the 7500.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=87

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cs342 wrote :

So what do you think? Is the E7500 a good gaming CPU? I really don't want to waste money on anything that will give me less than a 10FPS increase in games or a 15% increase in processing speed.



Its a good enough CPU to see you through to the launch and full scale availability of the SB CPU's.. And since the only performance enhancing option for you is to do a full platform sweep, i seriouslly recommend you to hold on to your cash for the time being..

Reply to Emperus

Good advice! SandbyBridge vs. Bulldozer??

Reply to cs342

Why is everyone so gung ho over sandy bridge? We don't een know what kind of performance increase they possess, other than the theoretical mumbo Intel has given us. Has there been any real life benchmarking done yet? And what price point are they going to inflate them to?

So maybe I'm a little devils advocate on this, but that's half the fun :-)

------------------------------ Before you overclock, teach yourself the what and why! Blindly changing numbers is not overclocking, it's madness!
Head to the Overclocking forum and put on the reading glasses.
Reply to scottiemedic

And I'm guessing SB will kill Bulldozers core for core and MHz for MHz just like damn near every other Intel chip does. AMD only consistently wins at pricing.

------------------------------ Before you overclock, teach yourself the what and why! Blindly changing numbers is not overclocking, it's madness!
Head to the Overclocking forum and put on the reading glasses.
Reply to scottiemedic

I wonder why AMD puts so little cache on their processors.

Reply to cs342

Even if it is a mere 10% increase in performance, the SB line of CPU's are surely going to be faster than the current line of CPU's.. Now that much might not be enough of a deal to keep someone from buying a new system today but, the expected price drops are surely worth considering.. Moreover, its not that far now.. IMO, a couple of months wait is going to be worth it..

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Emperus wrote :

Even if it is a mere 10% increase in performance, the SB line of CPU's are surely going to be faster than the current line of CPU's.. Now that much might not be enough of a deal to keep someone from buying a new system today but, the expected price drops are surely worth considering.. Moreover, its not that far now.. IMO, a couple of months wait is going to be worth it..



I need a bit of help with my system... My screensaver (a slideshow of pictures) comes on after 5 minutes when I'm idle. When I do a Norton Scan and leave the desk, the screensaver goes on after 5 minutes and makes the computer really slow when I exit the slideshow. Is there any way to disable screensavers when your CPU usage is high??

Reply to cs342

Don't use screensaver at all.. Configure the power options to turn off the monitor after the desired time.. This helps save power also..

Reply to Emperus

But the screensaver doesn't lag my PC when Norton isn't scanning...

Reply to cs342

^
you need to get off Norton's, get a better program that uses less resources.

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Reply to malmental

What antivirus do you recommend? I tried Nod32 but it never detected any tracking cookies even when Norton detected more than 20.

Reply to cs342

Which version of Norton are you using.? From ver. 2009 Norton products have become very much optimized and operate very low on system resources (am personally using NIS 2009).. Other than that, Microsoft security essentials is excellent..

Reply to Emperus

scottiemedic wrote :

Why is everyone so gung ho over sandy bridge? We don't een know what kind of performance increase they possess, other than the theoretical mumbo Intel has given us. Has there been any real life benchmarking done yet? And what price point are they going to inflate them to?

So maybe I'm a little devils advocate on this, but that's half the fun :-)



You answered it yourself!

scottiemedic wrote :

And I'm guessing SB will kill Bulldozers core for core and MHz for MHz just like damn near every other Intel chip does. AMD only consistently wins at pricing.



I'm scared to see the prices of SB. :/

And TBH with intel again using their 2 socket setup and totally gimping (from what I've seen) the 1155's PCI lanes I'm not the slightest interested in SB.

I'm not spending $250-350+ for a board just so I can get more than 20 damn PCI lanes. No thank you intel, please try again.

Hello AMD! (once I can find GPUs strong enough to out-muscle my 4ghz Q9550, and not to mention games strong enough to tax those GPUs)

Reply to Raidur

I honestly dont think you will gain much by upgrading the processor, you will not get the performance you think your going to get.

Reply to iam2thecrowe

cs342 wrote :

What antivirus do you recommend? I tried Nod32 but it never detected any tracking cookies even when Norton detected more than 20.


comodo internet security -
http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/free-download.html

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Reply to malmental

Emperus wrote :

Which version of Norton are you using.? From ver. 2009 Norton products have become very much optimized and operate very low on system resources (am personally using NIS 2009).. Other than that, Microsoft security essentials is excellent..



I'm using Internet Security 2010

Reply to cs342

I'm using MS Security Essentials and Ad Aware free edition, and the combo works great, and doesn't kill my boot time like Norton or McAfee. I don't have experience with Comodo though, might try out a coupe or three. Run one for a couple weeks, go to another. At the end of the month, use the one YOU like, not the one other people like... I'm just saying...

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Reply to scottiemedic

Is MS security essentials and ad aware free?

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