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August 5, 2010 8:55:10 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: (e.g.: this week (the closer the better))

BUDGET RANGE: (SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, gaming, photos

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard Mouse Speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: (e.g.: newegg.com, Micro Center

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type Intel, and radeon

OVERCLOCKING: No

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Need a good tower less than 21inches high


Im looking at a first build containing the following parts:

Processor: Intel I-7 930

Motherboard: Asus P6X58D-E

PSU: Corsair 650 HX

Ram: Mushkin #998805 3-2gb redline

Video card: single XFX5970 or
one XFX 5870 and add a second down the road


Harddrive: Samsung spinpoint F-3 1tb

Cooler: unknown?

Microsoft windows 7 home premium 64 bit


Is this set up very good for gaming?

I need to know what case I can use thats under 21 inches high with good air, and room for above compnents including 5870cf

Heat sink: unknown?


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August 5, 2010 9:28:04 PM

Case... Cooler Master HAF 922, will fit two 5970's

Cooler... Scythe SCMG-2100 Sleeve CPU Cooler or stock cooler since no plan to overclock (?)

PSU... Yours will not handle two 5870's, so I would recommend going with this one instead: Best - SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply or XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Overall a very solid gaming build.... You could look to go with an AMD Phenom II X4 955 or Intel Core i5-760 for less money and achieve similar gaming results though, if budget is a concern.
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August 5, 2010 11:45:56 PM

Tecmo

Thank you for your response.

Do you think I really need a cooler with this set-up? If so do I need any other additional hardware to mount that cooler to the Mobo? Will this cooler miss my ram on the above described MOBO?

I agree the PSU will be too small. I like Cosair 850Hx

Do you feel 5870cf would be better or worse that a 5970?

Would Nividia set-up be any better than the radeon set-up?

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August 6, 2010 1:27:07 AM

If you don't plan on overclocking, there is no reason to run anything above the stock fan, unless heat is a concern in your room. If you decide to go with the heat sink, you don't need any additional hardware outside of what comes with the motherboard. The cooler should cause an issue with your memory, as the first slot closests to the CPU isn't filled on your motherboard. I would recommend installing your memory first before the heat sink any way you go.

As for the PSU... I'm all for the Corsair 850HX. It is one of the best PSU on the market.

As for your GPU situation, I would go with a single 5870 or CF over a 5970. The 5970 just isn't worth it in my opinion. As for Nvidia, there is only one choice worth it in my opinion for your build... a SLI setup of EVGA GTX 460 SC EE. It out performs both the 5870 and GTX 480 at similar or less price (this option if you are going with a single 5870).
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August 6, 2010 1:08:49 PM

Thanks for the well thought out complete answers to my questions.

I reading about the fan noise from the GTX 460's which concerns me. I presently have a 9800GX2 which is quiet.

I am really confused about going EVGA GTX 460 SLI vs 5870 now and then adding another 5870 several months later. Which would be my best option for overall performance, and future proofing GTX 460 sli VS 5870 CF? I usually keep my computer fo about four years.

Thanks again
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August 6, 2010 4:07:51 PM

Going with a single 5870 now and adding an additional one down the road is more "future proof" way to go.

With going GTX 460 SLI, you have already maxed out your GPU potential and the only way to increase is get two new cards (or one more powerful/expensive card). With a single 5870, you are getting similar performance but in a few months or so when price drop, you can add an additional card for even greater performance than the SLI setup.
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August 6, 2010 8:17:07 PM

Thank you sir.
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August 9, 2010 1:03:34 AM

If I go with a 460 SLI do I need as SLI bridge connector?

Does the bridge connector come with the card? If jot where do I get one?

Thanks
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August 9, 2010 1:17:54 AM

boat capt said:
If I go with a 460 SLI do I need as SLI bridge connector?

Does the bridge connector come with the card? If jot where do I get one?


Conveniently, Tom's just had an article about this. You do not need a bridge connector, but doing without is likely to hurt your performance.

The motherboard should come with at least one connector, and the graphics cards should as well.
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August 9, 2010 11:31:17 AM

Thanks. I just read the article and it talked about problems with cross fire and drivers. I'm just trying to build for the first time and I'm not looking for problems that I can't fix. I'm really concerned after reading the article about doing either CF or Sli. Am I more worried than I should be? It says that one card performs well with less problems.
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August 9, 2010 1:15:52 PM

I would advocate single GPUs for the most part but for 1st time builders even more so ^^
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August 9, 2010 1:28:56 PM

The GTX 460 are good cards and great in SLI, if it were a choice between a 5850 and a GTX 460 with plans to SLI/XFire later I would go GTX 460 because of SLI scaling better.
However, the 5870 is in a league ahead of the 5850 and I would stick with that choice and XFire at a later date when you feel its needed.

Of course, having said that, I've not seen any benchmarks of the GTX 460 SLI vs CF 5870 but I would assume the 5870 CF wins, but then again at a premium price.
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August 9, 2010 11:23:14 PM

Thanks men
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