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July 2, 2010 8:28:31 AM

Hi,

I've just found out that Windows 7 can mix ATI and nVidia cards. I've got two questions:

1. Is it worth going ATI 4980 + nVidia GTS 250 (will I get boosted performance)?

2. Does this give me the opportunity to mix & match the 4800 series with the 5700 series?

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rider_eragon

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July 2, 2010 8:32:22 AM
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"CrosSLI" :lol: 

But no you can't use a ATi card and an Nvidia card in "CrosSLI" but you can have an ATi card as your primary card and a nVidia for PhysX.

And no you can't mix series
July 2, 2010 8:37:05 AM

I take it then that I won't get a higher framerate?
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July 2, 2010 8:52:58 AM

well If you used the GTS250 as a PhysX card then you would get higher FPS in games that support physX
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July 2, 2010 8:56:35 AM

Is it really higher FPS? I thought it just added the PhysX detail. You don't get higher frame rates in Batman:AA, you get more papers flying around.
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July 2, 2010 9:17:13 AM

Sorry should have been clearer, what I mean't was you get higher FPS with the dedicated PhysX card in PhysX supported games VS. not having a PhysX card.
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July 2, 2010 9:58:10 AM

And I'm saying I don't think thats true. You get PhysX effects, not higher frame rates. Frame rates should be nearly the same, but with the PhysX card you get more "detail".
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July 2, 2010 10:01:58 AM

ok I thought the CPU did the PhysX calculations if there isn't an nVidia GPU present?
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July 2, 2010 10:23:08 AM

Sort of. Like Havok you have have a PhysX game that will do the physics on the CPU. Or you can have a GPU PhysX game that runs SOME things on the GPU. Batman:AA is one such game. They can't require an Nvidia card or they'd limit their audience to bad. You can turn PhysX off, or have it on a few different settings. By turning the PhysX on, you are simply adding detail. I haven't seen any reviews that show better frame rates, just more details.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/10/19/batman_arkham...

If you look at the last graph you can see that enabling PhysX without a dedicated card your frame rates will actually go down. This review doesn't have the GTX275 with a dedicated card however. If you look at the first chart however you can see the GTX285 with a dedicated card doing around 35-40. (high PhysX setting.) This is 10-15FPS faster then the slower card. I guess your right that a dedicated card will help your frame rates go up. I'd still like to see a review that uses the same GPU. If the GTX275 can get that close, how close would the GTX285 have got?

The next page shows the effects that I mentioned.
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July 2, 2010 10:24:12 AM

If the game supports PhysX effects using the CPU, then yes OMG's right it does improve performance. If it has no CPU path and is just on or off, then the other scenario is what happens where you simply get more debris by adding the card.

However there are both types of PhysX 'enhanced' games, along with the standard, just CPU option which is what it is for the majority of games (even with the PhysX logo on them).

I think the OP should look into Lucid's Hyrda if he's dead set on trying to make his hopes of CroSLi work, as that's the only currently implementation, and it may improve over time over what the 200 series offers now.
July 2, 2010 10:41:20 AM

No, 4745454b is right. The CPU doesn't do any PhysX calulations, only enabled Nvidia GPUs do. You would get extra detail that would be rendered on the PhysX card. However, there aren't that many games that truely support it to a degree that is well noticable. Most new TWIMTBP (the way its meant to be played) games do have some form of PhysX in them if you want to give it a try, but you won't miss out on anything major if you dont have a PhysX card.
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July 2, 2010 10:45:38 AM

Thats strange because in the link 4745454b posted it says
"Here, we directly compare the efficacy of a GTS 250 for dedicated PhysX when using a Radeon HD 5870 as a graphics adapter, compared to using only a Radeon HD 5870 and running PhysX on the CPU."
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July 2, 2010 10:49:55 AM

No, you're both not thinking beyond a binary option.

Look it up, there are games with the option to turn added PhysX effects off, Turn it on with multi-core CPU acceleration, and turn it on with GPU acceleration.

There also may be optional higher levels on some of the GPU-Accelerated games, like DarkVoid which has 4 modes (off, low [CPU or GPU] , med [GPU-only] , high [GPU-only]).

I'm not giving any weight to the value of PhysX, not a fan of debris physics, but try to get the info correct when discussing it, it's annoying enough as it is.
July 9, 2010 1:43:47 AM

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