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September 30, 2004 12:20:08 AM

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Hello

Always played ut on windows machines before now, and kept my linux stuff
to headless servers - but now I've moved across to Fedora pretty much
completely. (Most of the apps I use are native to both OS's, so no big
wrench)

Have got UT running smoothly and playing online, but have some questions
about the differences from the Windows versions:

1. No Mods tab? (So you can "Force default models" and get rid of cow
and nali) (Was along the top, between stats and help, iirc)

2. Pure kicking on some servers with "impure client" - known issue?

3. Can you window UT, or switch with it in the background - if so, what
keys? (Alt-tab and alt-enter don't work...) (Running OpenGL with
Nvidia's latest drivers)

Thanks!

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September 30, 2004 3:49:48 AM

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Flash enlightened us with:
> 1. No Mods tab? (So you can "Force default models" and get rid of
> cow and nali) (Was along the top, between stats and help, iirc)

Which version of UT?

> 2. Pure kicking on some servers with "impure client" - known issue?

No idea.

> 3. Can you window UT, or switch with it in the background - if so,
> what keys? (Alt-tab and alt-enter don't work...) (Running OpenGL
> with Nvidia's latest drivers)

Depends on your window manager and/or desktop environment.

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Anonymous
September 30, 2004 11:21:53 AM

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Flash schrieb:

> 1. No Mods tab? (So you can "Force default models" and get rid of cow

Unfortunately, yes. I miss that one, too.
>
> 2. Pure kicking on some servers with "impure client" - known issue?

Not that I know of :)  I've never been kicked out of servers with my Debian
since then.

> 3. Can you window UT, or switch with it in the background - if so, what
> keys? (Alt-tab and alt-enter don't work...) (Running OpenGL with
> Nvidia's latest drivers)

That one's tricky. KDE offers an ALT+TAB (you can change the key combo
though) like in windows, but i wouldn't rely on that. Instead, bind
"togglefullscreen" command to a key and use that. For me it's F11. Very
comfortable and the fastest way.

>
> Thanks!

Happy fragging!
>

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September 30, 2004 1:32:00 PM

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Bora Ugurlu wrote:
>>1. No Mods tab? (So you can "Force default models" and get rid of cow
> Unfortunately, yes. I miss that one, too.

Ah, I've fixed that one now. Bonuspack 1 installs it. :) 

>>2. Pure kicking on some servers with "impure client" - known issue?
> Not that I know of :)  I've never been kicked out of servers with my Debian
> since then.

I've been told it's some versions of pure not liking any client < 451,
but I'm not sure.

>>3. Can you window UT, or switch with it in the background - if so, what
>>keys? (Alt-tab and alt-enter don't work...) (Running OpenGL with
>>Nvidia's latest drivers)
> That one's tricky. KDE offers an ALT+TAB (you can change the key combo
> though) like in windows, but i wouldn't rely on that. Instead, bind
> "togglefullscreen" command to a key and use that. For me it's F11. Very
> comfortable and the fastest way.

Thanks!

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Anonymous
September 30, 2004 4:44:38 PM

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Flash wrote:
> Hello

<snip stuff>

>
> 2. Pure kicking on some servers with "impure client" - known issue?
>

It's bloody well been a problem for me. I've been kicked for an impure
client from most of my favorite servers and end up having to boot into
windows to make it work. It's been a problem on both Mandrake 10 as
well as Fedora Core 2.

Also, I've noticed some servers are now wanting you to install some sort
of .dll to play their servers. Is this a problem under linux?

-->Jeff

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September 30, 2004 11:45:38 PM

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jgentry wrote:

>> 2. Pure kicking on some servers with "impure client" - known issue?
> It's bloody well been a problem for me. I've been kicked for an impure
> client from most of my favorite servers and end up having to boot into
> windows to make it work. It's been a problem on both Mandrake 10 as
> well as Fedora Core 2.

Apparently the 451 patch fixes it, but I haven't had to install that yet.

> Also, I've noticed some servers are now wanting you to install some sort
> of .dll to play their servers. Is this a problem under linux?

Qvalidate? Anti-cheat stuff. V 111 is supposed to be linux compatible,
but earlier ones certainly aren't.

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Flash
October 1, 2004 9:19:31 PM

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Flash wrote:

> Hello

Hi Flash,

>
> Always played ut on windows machines before now, and kept my linux stuff
> to headless servers - but now I've moved across to Fedora pretty much
> completely. (Most of the apps I use are native to both OS's, so no big
> wrench)

'Bout time too :) 

> 2. Pure kicking on some servers with "impure client" - known issue?

Yes it has been an issue, I don't recall which version of Pure did it but
the cure was to download the Pure files from the Pure site and copy them
into your ~/.loki/system directory.
FWIW I haven't had that problem for quite a while now.

hth

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Anonymous
October 7, 2004 6:02:16 PM

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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:44:38 -0500, jgentry wrote:

>
>
>> 2. Pure kicking on some servers with "impure client" - known issue?
>>
>>
> It's bloody well been a problem for me. I've been kicked for an impure
> client from most of my favorite servers and end up having to boot into
> windows to make it work. It's been a problem on both Mandrake 10 as well
> as Fedora Core 2.

This is an install prob (IIRC). There are 2 or 3 different installers for
linux depending on the version (Orig, GOTY or Totally Unreal) of the game.
You've got to hunt down the correct installer for your version and use
that. If you had to manually decompress some (nearly all) of your maps,
then you were using the wrong installer for sure.


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{AGUT}DeadMan
October 10, 2004 12:18:23 AM

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{AGUT}DeadMan wrote:
(Me) >>>2. Pure kicking on some servers with "impure client" - known issue?

> This is an install prob (IIRC). There are 2 or 3 different installers for
> linux depending on the version (Orig, GOTY or Totally Unreal) of the game.
> You've got to hunt down the correct installer for your version and use
> that. If you had to manually decompress some (nearly all) of your maps,
> then you were using the wrong installer for sure.

It only happened once, and only with one specific version of Pure. It
may be an installer issue, I did have to de-uz the maps since I have
Euro Totally Unreal and couldn't find such an installer, so I used the
436 GOTY. Not convinced that's the culprit though - more likely Pure
instabilities.

The bigger problem with the 436 hassle with saved passwords refusing
connections, and the huge and nasty problem of Qvalidate and UTDC not
having working linux options (Although UTDC does give the option of
turning off checking for linux clients, which is only right since I
don't think there are any non-uscript aimbots for Linux. (FWIW, the
uscript ones were the first, I think, and the easiest to check for)
We've had to change servers for several cupmatches because of Qval and
UTDC.

Anyway, to return to initial issue above - never happened since I
applied the 451 patch. Solved a bunch of other issues too. I can
recommend that patch for linux clients having played with it for a while.

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