thanks guys really not going for ati boards my motherboard for some reason my motherboard not really happy with them. I have a Gateway FX7020 ( i know a gateway) i was away and my 2 year old daughter kept pushing the power buton on and off i got home and it was done. looks like either power supply which is crap any ways or video card is going so replacing both i hope thats the problems. antec 650 watt power supply now looking into a card.