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August 9, 2010 7:04:31 AM

I am planning on making a purchase sometime tomorrow I think since I finally think I know what I want. I still have a few of those unsure feelings so I wanted to see what you guys thought of this built.

I am mainly going to be using it just as a normal home pc. I wanted something that was decently fast and powerful that could provide some longevity as well. It will be used for gaming as well.

Here's the list:

HDD : SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185
$74.99

GPU : EVGA 01G-P3-1373-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130567
$239.99

Heat Sink : COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103055
$49.99

PSU and DVD Combo : CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power & SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.466029
$112.98

CPU and Mobo Combo : Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930 & ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.466116
$504.99

Im not sure whether to go with for the RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820226121

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145286

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145224

Please leave some comments/suggestions they will be very appreciated.

Thanks
August 9, 2010 7:17:18 AM

Well for a normal home PC, I would either go with AMD or i5 and not with an i7 and that too an i7 930...
In gaming, it wont offer any significant performance increase compared to the i5 or the AMD X4 9xx and also in day-to-day tasks, I doubt you will be able to differentiate between the above CPUs...
Related resources
August 9, 2010 7:45:23 AM

Well I guess another way to put it is I wont want to be upgrading for a while and I just did not want to worry about performance at all. There is a good chance of a fair amount of autocad work and other job specialized programs (Controls design programs that I could end up loading onto it as well from my work laptop, which might lead to a decent amount of multitasking taking place). The price really isnt really and issue, I just wanted to make sure I was not overlooking a better quality product that is comparable to what I have selected so far.

I appreciate the suggestions though guys, I understand where you are coming from
August 9, 2010 7:50:51 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1 -2 days

BUDGET RANGE: ~1500

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: multitasking,gaming,stability, just a fast reliable system

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg, tigerdirect

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: usa

PARTS PREFERENCES: intel and nvidia thats about it

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe
August 9, 2010 9:06:53 AM

^ Well if you are into CAD and such stuffs, then going with the i7 is fine...
Here is a setup...

i7 930 + ASUS Ramapge III Gene - Though mATX, is as good or even better...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM -
Any of these -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE + PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Rest are fine...And your links are broken...
August 9, 2010 4:44:06 PM

Wow im sorry, I made sure I checked each link last night and they all worked, now I just checked them all and yeah they are all broken.

What is the mATX you are talking about.

Is there a reason you chose the rampage III over the P6x58d, I couldnt tell much of a difference but the xFi, which is a nice feature

Once again thanks for the input I will try to repost the links

HDD : SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$74.99

GPU : EVGA 01G-P3-1373-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express
2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$239.99

Heat Sink : COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$49.99

PSU and DVD Combo : CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power & SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$112.98

CPU and Mobo Combo : Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930 & ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$504.99

Im not sure whether to go with for the RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

August 9, 2010 4:44:33 PM

I really hope those links still worked I just checked them all
August 9, 2010 9:19:59 PM

anyone anyone..im trying to purchase today and could really use some feedback. Any comments would be very appreciated!
August 9, 2010 9:53:00 PM

Ya I am thinking I might go the modular route for the PSU after looking at the XFX and the one Mr Pizza just posted. Which do you think is better the XFX or the Corsair.

Ya I think I am for sure going to go with the Mushkin Redlines, sounds like a very good choice from reviews and specs.

Also does anyone know what would be a better choice for a mobo.

Rampage III + i7 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

or

P6x58D + i7 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

I'm not sure what would be the better choice for this as well
August 9, 2010 10:04:20 PM

byrner092 said:
Ya I am thinking I might go the modular route for the PSU after looking at the XFX and the one Mr Pizza just posted. Which do you think is better the XFX or the Corsair.

Ya I think I am for sure going to go with the Mushkin Redlines, sounds like a very good choice from reviews and specs.

Also does anyone know what would be a better choice for a mobo.

Rampage III + i7 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

or

P6x58D + i7 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

I'm not sure what would be the better choice for this as well

Only get the rampage III if you are doing heavy overclocking.
Go with the corsair :D 
Hope this helps,
Mr. Pizza
August 9, 2010 10:07:59 PM

Well haha I do plan on experimenting with OCing sometime but probably not right away. Would it be dumb to get the rampage if I'm not heavy into OCing. The reason I'm asking is because the rampage and p6x58d combo deals are the same price. So would it be smarter to go with the rampage?
August 9, 2010 10:12:23 PM

byrner092 said:
Well haha I do plan on experimenting with OCing sometime but probably not right away. Would it be dumb to get the rampage if I'm not heavy into OCing. The reason I'm asking is because the rampage and p6x58d combo deals are the same price. So would it be smarter to go with the rampage?

The rampage is better, but you would need to buy a better power supply (one with two 8-pin motherboard connectors) for it to work at its fullest :) 
August 9, 2010 10:20:21 PM

Ugh I dont know which to get lol..
August 9, 2010 10:23:09 PM

byrner092 said:
Ugh I dont know which to get lol..

Do not get the rampage, the other one is just fine. you would have to buy a new PSU for the rampage
August 9, 2010 10:23:46 PM

Get whichever PSU is cheaper. The XFX 750 has a 9.7 rating from jonnyguru (with most of the points deducted for aesthetics) and is also 80+ Silver. It's absolutely a quality unit.

The Corsair 850 HX scored 9.6, also quite commendable. Couldn't find a review of the 750.
August 9, 2010 10:26:49 PM

I would still go with corsair, its black and fits the look of your case, wires are nice, a very good unit
August 9, 2010 11:03:27 PM

One other question that I just thought of is; does it really matter if a motherboard is Windows 7 Ready?
August 10, 2010 12:25:28 AM

No, I have no idea what that would even mean. I assume it's just marketing. The motherboard should have next to nothing to do with the OS.

The XFX unit is black as well, it just has a green fan. *shrug* Seriously, you can't go wrong with either of those PSUs, get whichever is less expensive at the time you buy.
August 10, 2010 1:49:28 AM

Thats what I figured, I was just making sure. Ya, I'm sure ill take the price into consideration when figuring out the grand total tonight.

Anyone else have any experience with the rampage III or p6x58d-e
August 10, 2010 2:14:45 AM

The Rampage III Gene is a micro-ATX board, it is more limited on expansion slots than the other board. I'd go with the full-size board unless you're planning on an mATX board.
August 10, 2010 2:18:29 AM

Ya i just noticed that, I think the rampage is out but then i just saw these 2.

Thanks for the quick reply though coldsleep!
August 10, 2010 2:19:15 AM

byrner092 said:
Last question hopefully guys, if someone could please answer. Im stuck on choosing a motherboard for some reason and I was curious if the P6T Deluxe V2 looks very appealing too. What do you guys think.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

I would get the rampage gene
August 10, 2010 2:20:09 AM

The thing I dont understand is the other two boards say that their 1600 speed memory standard is (O.C.)
August 10, 2010 2:22:09 AM

Why do you say that mr pizza
August 10, 2010 2:22:19 AM

I don't see a lot of difference, though I guess that means the price makes it appealing.

Have you considered the Gigabyte UD3R? It has USB 3.0 & SATA 6.0 GB/s, which (EDIT) some of the others in the comparison don't seem to have. (Really not trying to make this more difficult.)
August 10, 2010 2:23:07 AM

byrner092 said:
The thing I dont understand is the other two boards say that their 1600 speed memory standard is (O.C.)


Anything above 1333 MHz is technically an overclock. Don't worry about it. Most boards simply list 1066, 1333 & their max rated. Others list the ones in between.
August 10, 2010 2:24:40 AM

byrner092 said:
Why do you say that mr pizza

well it has USB3 SATA3, its an asus ROG board, its made for overclocking, it looks awesome, supports fast memory, not expensive. when it says like 1600 (O.C) that means when you put 1600 ram in it will set down, but you can overclock it easy to 1600.
August 10, 2010 2:30:36 AM

The original board i picked p6x58d has the USB 3.0 and SATA 6.0 GB/s as well. Haha i know you arent trying to make it harder, that was a nice option with the Gigabyte. I just need to make a decision and stick with it!
August 10, 2010 3:03:06 AM

byrner092 said:
The original board i picked p6x58d has the USB 3.0 and SATA 6.0 GB/s as well. Haha i know you arent trying to make it harder, that was a nice option with the Gigabyte. I just need to make a decision and stick with it!

How about the EVGA classy? >:0)
August 10, 2010 3:26:29 AM

byrner092 said:
The original board i picked p6x58d has the USB 3.0 and SATA 6.0 GB/s as well. Haha i know you arent trying to make it harder, that was a nice option with the Gigabyte. I just need to make a decision and stick with it!


I'd say that the full-size ATX boards are about even, as long as they have USB 3.0 & SATA 6.0 GB/s. I'd avoid the mATX board, even though it's fancy. It's unlikely you're going to use the additional features on that board...but if you feel like you're going to, then I guess put it back in the mix.

Really, I'd just get the least expensive board that has enough PCI slots and has USB 3.0 & SATA 6.0 GB/s. Tom's recently had an article comparing the top X58 boards and found less than a 1% difference in overclocking, etc. between them, if I recall correctly.
August 10, 2010 3:32:01 AM

coldsleep said:
No, I have no idea what that would even mean. I assume it's just marketing. The motherboard should have next to nothing to do with the OS.



WHAT?? The motherboard has very much to do with the OS. If the OS specific drivers aren't available for the motherboard, you're basically SOL.
August 10, 2010 3:44:24 AM

No i think you just download the drivers from the company
August 10, 2010 3:47:53 AM

The drivers have to be available for download.
August 10, 2010 3:53:42 AM

Im sure they have the drivers for one of their current boards, I think its saying on their website that they offer boards that are pre-configured with the new drivers
August 10, 2010 4:00:01 AM

I wasn't claiming that the drivers aren't available. I merely wanted to point out that the motherboard and the OS have a significant relationship.
August 10, 2010 4:10:34 AM

Oh ok, yeah that's what i figured and one of the reasons I asked. I think it is more of a marketing tool on the asus website.
August 10, 2010 4:42:41 AM

^ Good responses there, but I would like to make some things clear...

1. Mobo
- The Rampage III Gene though has 2x 4PIN CPU Connectors, it is not mandatory to plug in both. It would work just fine with a single 4PIN...Only in extreme overclocking sessions say 4+ GHz, you might have to plug in both.
- The Rampage is made for overclocking which implies, it would have better power management, better stability, which would benefit even when not overclocking.
There was an article comparing the ASUS P6T(then value champion) with the Rampage II Gene and it was very clear that the Gene had the upper hand though it was a mATX...So the current scenario would be similar...

- So go with that ASUS -E board only if you will be using many add-on cards along with an another graphics card(i.e., 2 cards in SLI with say a TV tuner or any other add-on card)...

2. RAM -
The Mushkin Red Line are great set of RAMs, but again only when you will be overclocking high, else even the ones that I had linked would do the job...
I would particularly suggest the Crucial that I had linked -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Check this article -
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/6gb-ddr3-x58,2372.h...

3. PSU -
How about this combo ?'Lian-Li K62 + Seasonic X650 - 80+ Gold
A good case with a very high quality PSU...
Review -
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

4. CPU Cooler -
If you are buying that V8 for looks, then its fine, but if performance matters more than looks, then there are many other cheaper alternatives, which perform as good for less...
If this is available -
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10-212P-G1-Univ...
Else these -
Scythe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Smaller but very good -
COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible Hyper N 520
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Finished-Aluminum-H...
August 10, 2010 5:15:36 AM

Thanks for the input gkay09. I might do SLI in the future, but i probably wont have many add-on cards. I kinda ruled out the p6t series and thought I was settled on the P6x58d, but you got me back on the Rampage now. You think that Rampage is a better route then. I mean like I said I might go SLI in the future and I dont know really of any add-on cards I would plan on putting in (the only thing I could even think of is a sound card and I doubt I'll do that). Does the fact that it is a mATX really matter, or is it really that much more cramped for space. I just want to make sure if anything does come out in the near future I wont have any issues, since the motherboard is the staple of the system.

I dont think I will be needing a case, I have been talking to a buddy and he has a nice oldschool Thermaltec (Looks like the oldschool alienware cases)

I like the V8 but im nervous about it fitting in the case and crowding the other components (would this be even more of a problem if i got the Rampage?). I do like the Cooler Master HyperN and Hyper 212 you linked though. Its puts me a little more at ease since theyre smaller.

I do like the Mushkin RAM though because it is on a very good special right now (150$), so I think i will stick with that for sure
August 10, 2010 5:55:27 AM

^ mATX wont matter even for SLI,...
Some builds sourced from the net...
http://forums.gamesforwindows.com/p/525/54246.aspx
http://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?t=84635&pa...

PSU -
Corsair 650HX or 750HX/ XFX 650W or 750W/ Silverstone DA 700
Anything above 750W IMO is not required...Actually the above 650W PSUs can easily handle 2x GTX 460 in SLI without any issues...

RAM - Yup, those Mushkins are very good...

HDD - Get it from here -
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-HD103SJ&title=Sa...
$64.99 - 10% coupon code: PREPPY (Expires August 15) = $58.49 plus FREE shipping

Cooler - The Hyper 212+ is tall than the N520...So if the case is narrow, then get N520 else Hyper would be fine...
August 10, 2010 6:09:52 AM

aford10 said:
WHAT?? The motherboard has very much to do with the OS. If the OS specific drivers aren't available for the motherboard, you're basically SOL.


Sure, but the motherboard isn't going to be physically designed to be better for Windows 7 than it is for, say, Windows XP or Ubuntu 10.4.

There's nothing about the motherboard itself that is going to affect Windows performance. Unlike, say, a PSU, where having multiple 6+2 PCI-E cables generally governs (along with the other capabilities of the PSU) whether the power supply is (or isn't) SLI-ready/capable/whatever.
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