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October 18, 2010 11:40:53 AM

Is six core meant for more CPU heavy games such as GTA IV and BFBC,or should a quad and an ATI radeon be just fine?

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October 18, 2010 11:58:29 AM

A quad core is the thing for gaming and a good ATI with ample GDDR and a good amount of RAM will really get you great gaming at high resolutions.
Of course Good, ample and great are all relative to budgets, mobos and monitors... :) 
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October 19, 2010 6:23:36 PM

6 cores is essentially useless for gaming and in most cases dual core is fine. I would recommend going down the AMD route as its cheaper than the intel equivalent and offers similar level of performance in games. As for the GPU defo get at least an HD 5770 or better :D 
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October 19, 2010 8:35:32 PM

Yeah intel i7 CPU's are faster pretty much all games but is it worth paying the extra cash for a few extra FPS? - No
the i5 cpu's is pretty much neck and neck with the phenoms in most games but cost more so the phenom is the smart choice.

The only reason to consider an intel cpu is if money isn't a problem or you do a lot of video editing work or for bragging rights :) 
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October 19, 2010 8:55:28 PM

unless your going multi GPU the phenoms are still more than efficient.
and besides most monitors cant output more than 60 FPS anyway,
ultimately it comes down to budget and personal preference
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October 19, 2010 9:38:59 PM

If your building a new gaming rig then you might as well go with the 6 core 980X, (6 cores, 6 threads), which Intel calls their 12 Core Processor You can upgrade your video cards, power supplies, memory and stuff at any time (or multiple times), during the life of the build - even motherboards. The most expensive part and the one that I usually build everything around is the CPU. Spend the money on that one to start with because down the road as games and applications and all get more cpu and gpu intensive, you will already have a head start on the brains of the operation! And that's at stock speeds :lol: 
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October 19, 2010 9:45:15 PM

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Lol what about min framerate?A game which is running 15 or 5 frames faster will have better min framerate than a game running 15 or 5 frames slower.


www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/191?vs=146

I5 vs fastest amd.I5 beats it in every games.That shows how much phenom sucks as compared to iseries when it comes to gaming.


Lets talk 'bout the mainstream.

The X4 955 is 55$ cheaper than the i5 750. Add to that the cheaper mobos. With the saved money you can get a better GPU.
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October 19, 2010 10:00:50 PM

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Lol what about min framerate?A game which is running 15 or 5 frames faster will have better min framerate than a game running 15 or 5 frames slower.


www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/191?vs=146

I5 vs fastest amd.I5 beats it in every games.That shows how much phenom sucks as compared to iseries when it comes to gaming.

Well, here the 980X vs. 1090T, $700 gets you 30 more fps. Fancy.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/191?vs=102

Heres a more fair comparison, 970BE vs i5 760, performs ~~15% worse for 20% less ($180 vs $210). Factoring in the money you can save with the Mobo, its not a bad choice at all.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/186?vs=191
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October 19, 2010 10:55:40 PM

Just get an AMD quad core with a decent graphics card if you wanna spend few more bucks, get an i7. Either way you'll run games just fine.
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October 20, 2010 6:58:38 AM

Boy!!! This seems to be getting into an AMD vs Intel Knockout series, I really pity the OP, he started off with one question and now already has a million doubts...... :) 
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October 20, 2010 8:57:43 AM

To answer OP's question:

Don't waste your money on a six core for gaming. A quad core is way more worth the money for gaming. Only 2 games can make use of a six core CPU: Napoleon Total War and FSX.

I recommend either the PII X4 955/965 or the i5 750/760. These CPU's are going to give you the best bang for the buck.

@ dipankar2007ind:

I'm just saying that the PII X4 CPU's are more budget friendly than the i5 quads. Plus with the saved money you can get a better GPU. For example if you get the HD 5770 with the i5 750 you can get the GTX460 with the PII X4 955.
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October 20, 2010 12:30:52 PM

I want something that will last, I know a quad core is enough,but is six core utilization forseeable in the future?
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October 20, 2010 12:35:40 PM

Certainly..... a Hexa is going to be the biggest foundation for the future..
So application within the next few years are certainly going to be making a full utilization of the Hexa's, so if I was to put it according to you.
Yes, a hexacore would be a good investment....
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October 20, 2010 12:44:09 PM

The games out barely use the The quad I7 920 never mind a six core, Dont waiste your money, Save it for another video card to make it run better/ faster not your CPU.
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October 20, 2010 12:45:44 PM

ugh, just wait for Sandy Bridge will ya? Hexacore for what? AMD? Or Intel? Intel means 12 cores but AMD will only 6 since there's no Ht. But the price.. ugh, just wait and buy Sandy Bridge will ya?
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October 20, 2010 12:49:52 PM

??? What 12 Cores??? it's 6 Cores each with 2 Threads each ..... and that does not imply 12 cores...
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October 20, 2010 12:52:15 PM

AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Black Edition Six-Core CPU compared to [== Quad Core ==] AMD Phenom™ II X4 965 Black Edition Quad-Core
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October 20, 2010 12:55:21 PM

alyoshka said:
??? What 12 Cores??? it's 6 Cores each with 2 Threads each ..... and that does not imply 12 cores...


You get the point.
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October 20, 2010 12:56:23 PM

Yes it's a 6 core CPU and the Sandy bridges are going to be from 2 to 8 core and twice the number of threads..... they're also expected to come out only by the end of next year.....
So if you're looking for long life the AMD way go for a 6 Core....
For yesterdays, today's and tomorrows gaming go for a Quad core
And if you want to build a whole new system with a lot of cash to burn and patience to wait ... wait for the Sandy bridge..... or go for the i7 extreme.....
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October 20, 2010 12:58:09 PM

andrern2000 said:
You get the point.


What point??? We learnt CPU terminology in Kindergarten.....
Do not confuse an already confused OP..... with terms of no relevance..... it helps in solving problems faster....
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October 20, 2010 12:58:58 PM

Preliminary Sandy Bridge will be of budgetive consumers priority first, built using 1155, and they will come at Quarter 1 2011. So maybe Jan~Feb.
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October 20, 2010 1:00:54 PM

alyoshka said:
What point??? We learnt CPU terminology in Kindergarten.....
Do not confuse an already confused OP..... with terms of no relevance..... it helps in solving problems faster....


The point is Intel's 6 cores uses Hyperthreading 2 threads-per-core, so for 6-cores it works like 12 cores. While AMD doesn't have Hyperthreading so 6-cores will work as 6-cores. Done explaining then. Now back to topic.
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October 20, 2010 1:04:45 PM

Im still undecided,popular vote is quad,so I might just go with quad,unless I get a surplus of money...
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October 20, 2010 1:10:43 PM

Best answer selected by Tesaga.
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October 20, 2010 1:11:04 PM

Exactly the point , you asked the wrong question in the wrong place in the wrong way.....
Your question was answered in the first 3 posts itself.....
The new question was what complicated matters foreseeable uses of the 6 Core for the future.......

Well of course there will be but at the same time both the major chip manufacturers have a big season ahead with a variety of new technology.....

So if you're planing to buy now with an insight into the future, it going to be a sad case, cos by this time next year, nearly everything will change.......
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October 20, 2010 1:14:55 PM

alyoshka, don't be so hard on him. He's just asking the question in his own way. He doesn't know about flame war of Intel vs. Amd, nor did he start it.
It's also reasonable to see the benefit of six cores. He wants to know if six-cores will benefit more in the future, then he'll take six cores into consideration.
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October 20, 2010 1:15:41 PM

Yeah,sorry a bit new to this type of question format of a format,althought I quite enjoy it,I just really don't want to mess up on this RIG as it may be my last for a while...
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October 20, 2010 1:17:14 PM

Well, keep asking and we'll try to keep replying so you don't make a mess of sweat and hard earned money.... :) 
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October 20, 2010 1:17:19 PM

You're welcome, mate. Welcome & enjoy your stay.
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October 20, 2010 1:23:13 PM

I begin my journey,to become a PC MASTER!
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October 20, 2010 1:25:29 PM

:)  Bon Voyage :) 
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October 20, 2010 5:12:40 PM

Tesaga said:
I begin my journey,to become a PC MASTER!


I like that. +1 :D 
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October 20, 2010 7:03:35 PM

a Helpfull Tip.... I learned everything that i know not from a school or books. But buy people like you and me on youtube showing us how its done. I.E.

Thanks,
TG HARLOW
Linus tech tips
Rodney Renolds (3dgamerman)
and everyone else
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October 20, 2010 8:18:22 PM

if you are gonna play BFBC2 MP then i strongly suggest a phenom x6, it uses all cores evenly @ about 60-70% on my 1055t @ 3.6ghz...

and you will be happier in the future if you go six core
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October 21, 2010 3:33:13 AM

Ive been thinking about it,even though I had said I'd get a quad,there will always be that "what if" I will see if money will be an issue...BTW,whats the rest of your specs,and did you overclock,and was it easy? SO MANY QUESTIONS,even though the first question was answered, I have many more :p 
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October 21, 2010 7:53:14 AM

AMD Phenom II x6 1055t @ 3.6ghz stock volts
Biostar TA890FXE mobo
Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL8
XFX 5850 XXX edition
etc..

yep i have my 1055t @ 3.6ghz and it is the simplest OC i have ever done, i only raised my HTT clock to 257 and dropped my RAM multi by 1x.

and i can fold with it 24/7 ;) 

i really suggest you to go with a 1055t and OC it a little and youre set :) 
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October 21, 2010 12:30:14 PM

Would a AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Black Edition Six-Core CPU suffice? Or maybe a AMD Phenom™ II X6 1075T Six-Core CPU? What would be the sufficient cooling for an overclock you have yourslef?
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October 21, 2010 2:23:59 PM

i have the CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler and its a very nice cooler for the price, HW monitor reports the CPU temp as 38C but i have heard that the temp readings are a little wrong and that you should add 10C to the temp that HW monitor is showing.

the 1090t black edition is an amazing CPU, its easier to overclock than the 1075t or 1055t because of the unlocked multiplier but its more expensive too.

its only down to your budget :) 
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