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$1500 Gaming system, advice wanted

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August 11, 2010 12:25:32 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Immediately

BUDGET RANGE: ~$1500

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming. Primarily EQ2. The object is to be able to run 2 or 3 instances of the game on 2 monitors on high settings. Also some Starcraft 2.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitors, Mouse, Keyboard

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US

PARTS PREFERENCES: Prefer Intel

OVERCLOCKING: No

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe now, definately in future.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920 X 1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

Here's what I have so far:

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: EVGA P55 FTW 200 SLI 141-LF-E658-KR LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: 2X G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100281VX-2SR Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total System Price: $1,468.85

Now the questions. Given the stated intention of running multiple game clients simultaneously on different monitors, with other stuff running in the background, is 8gb of memory too much? Would 4gb be enough?

Also, Would I be better off going with the 5870 that I've chosen here, or 2 5850's? Either way, is the PSU enough for 2 5850's now, or 2 5870's later?

And last, is it really worth going with a SSD? A 60gb Vertex 2 is around $170, which would put me over budget. Is there anything I can change about the system to fit it in, or is it worth spending the extra money from an in game performance standpoint?

Thanks for your responses!




August 11, 2010 6:09:57 AM

^ Some changes -

1. CPU + Graphics card -
i5 760 + GTX 470
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Reason why I chose the GTX 470 -
http://www.guru3d.com/article/starcraft-ii-wings-of-lib...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-rad...

Mobo + RAM
ASUS P755D-E PRO + Corsair 4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the amount of RAM, why not first check with 4GB and see how is the RAM usage...anyways you can add more later on...

CASE + PSU -
Lian-Li K62 + XFX 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

SSD - It still commands some price premium, but does offer very good performance though...Lowers the startup time, apps load instantly,...
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August 11, 2010 5:24:54 PM

Ok, I have no problem making most of those changes. The only problem is the case. I'd have gone with that case myself, but for the current application I really can't have a case with the usb and headset ports on the top, as it's going to be sitting on a fairly high desk and would be pretty inconvenient. Any suggestions for other cases?

Anyway, that dropped the price enough that I can get the SSD in there, even keeping 8gb of ram. So, here's the new build:

SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115067

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139006

DVD: LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU + CPU: ASUS ENGTX470/2DI/1280MD5 GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.460469

MOBO + RAM: ASUS P755D-E PRO + Corsair 4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.479600

More RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total system price: $1323.86

That's cheap enough I'm seriously tempted to add another of those graphics cards for 289 and take the total up to 1613. I know you always say to try it and see, but I'd really rather get everything at once. So, any other changes or suggestions?




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August 11, 2010 6:00:56 PM

I like the suggestions from Gkay09. I particularly like the XFX modular PSU's

For multiple copies simultaneously, I really think it is better to go 8gb up front. You are then guaranteed that you have a matched kit. There is very little price premium today to getting 4gb sticks. Look a 2 x 4gb kit such as this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Note that there is negligible real(vs synthetic benchmarks)performance hit with slower DDR3 ram on nehalem processors.
A 2 x 4gb kit preserves your option to get more later, and two sticks are easier to overclock than 4.

On the SSD, I suggest that you wait for the gen3 products which will appear by year's end. They will be faster and cheaper. Install your OS on a 128gb partition on your hard drive, planning to clone it to a SSD later. Yes, the ssd's make everything feel snappier.

Would you consider a micro-ATX system? It will perform the same, and be cheaper.

Mobo EVGA 120-LF-E651-TR sli capable $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case Lian li PC-V351 $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It has dual 120mm intake cooling fans and will support any current graphics card length.

Or, you could save a bit and go with an Antec 200 case. Simple with superb cooling for $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you are inclined to get dual cards, the Nvidia GTX4xx cards seem to scale particularly well. Look to sli GTX460 or GTX470.
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August 11, 2010 6:27:16 PM

Quote:
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe now, definately in future.


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not now, future!
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August 11, 2010 7:17:55 PM

As far as the ram goes, I really don't think more than 8gb is going to be necessary ever, and with the combo deal with that mb, it's cheaper to go with the 4 sticks, so I think I'll stick with that.

I like the suggestion of setting up on a small partition and waiting a bit for the SSD. Thanks for that.

I don't really want to go with the micro ATX, because I don't want to deal with the small size and I just like the look of the tower :p 

Mr Pizza, what's your logic behind waiting for SLI? Just the price drop, or is there another reason? Right now those cards come with $20 mail in rebates, and with the other items, I'm currently looking at $100 in mail in rebates. Which drops the price to about $1513 and makes me really want to just go for it, lol.

Thanks for the suggestions!

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August 12, 2010 3:43:22 AM

^ Well OCZ I think have started on the wrong foot with DDR3...Most of their RAMs are flaky and so many bad reviews from users complaining the RAMs are unstable...So I wouldnt want to take chances...

And as for SLI, there are new cards which will be launched by both ATI and Nvidia by year end, so first check out those and then make the purchase...Anyways a single GTX 470 can very well hold high resolutions easy...
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