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2 9800GTX+'s or 1 5770

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July 6, 2010 8:37:50 AM

Newegg has a sale for EVGA 9800GTX+ for $89 per unit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That would come to around $185 with shipping plus tax.
The one 5770 Jupiter X from XFX is $179 tax and shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm building a new i7 rig and am debating buying 2 9800GTX's now..or waiting to buy a 5770 later.

Hoping i'll get a response soon.

How much of a difference would I see graphics wise on a 1680x1050 monitor and a 1920x1080p 46" 120Hz LCD?

Thanks guys!

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July 6, 2010 8:44:04 AM

My other specs are:
Intel Core i7 930
$230 X58 board(still deciding)
2x Hitachi 1TB 7200rpm
HAF 932 Case
6 gigs of the best ram I can buy :) 
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a c 189 U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 9:54:44 AM

9800GT is an old card, you'll better with a single HD5770 for now, it still good for high resolution...
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 10:01:34 AM

If pure speed is what you're after, 2x9800GTX will be faster, but there are other factors to consider. The power draw of the SLI setup will be much higher, you are stuck with DX10 at best, and the cards themselves are two generations behind in terms of features.
A single 5770 won't beat the SLI config for speed, but you get MUCH better power consumption, the latest in features, DX11 support, and you can add a second 5770 later if the board supports it.
My two cents..
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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 10:26:22 AM

Yeah, SLIed 9800GTX+ cards will be faster but they will also use more than double the power under load and about 4x as much at idle. They will also give off much more heat to a similar degree. An HD5770 will also give you DX11, have no SLI scaling/compatibility issues, leave you a slot free as an upgrade path, support 3 monitors and have latest audio/video playback features.
Also I believe your math is a little off. You are saying tax on a $168 HD5770 will be $9 but tax on the $250 for the 9800GTX+s will only be $5.
You can also save $13 on the HD5770 by going with this one;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 1:44:09 PM

I'd rather invest right now with a 5770 than an old gen card in SLI. At least with 5770, you still have the option to drop another one for crossfire.
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 4:41:12 PM

5770 hands down, less power draw, less heat, DX11, small footprint, etc..
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 5:28:14 PM

There's a couple ways to look at this:

1) Performance wise, 2 x 9800GTX+ will be faster than a single ATI 5770.

2) 1 x 5770 is cheaper than 2 x 9800GTX+, and leaves room for upgrading (Crossfire) later on.

Keep in mind something fairly important when doing your monetary calculations. Most Rebates only allow 1 rebate per order, per receipt, per household/address.
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a c 191 U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 7:31:06 PM

Either option would be OK at 1680X1050 but both may have problems at the higher resolution-The 9800s' have limited RAM and the 128 bit 5770 also looses performance at this higher resolution.
That said, I'd go for the HD5770-You can always Crossfire later.

As a side note, perhaps you might want to rebalance the build: A cheaper MB/CPU and memory could release enough cash for a HD5850 or GTX470, which would be a far better all round soloution, particularly at the higher resolution.
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 7:39:36 PM

coozie7 said:
Either option would be OK at 1680X1050 but both may have problems at the higher resolution-The 9800s' have limited RAM and the 128 bit 5770 also looses performance at this higher resolution.
That said, I'd go for the HD5770-You can always Crossfire later.

As a side note, perhaps you might want to rebalance the build: A cheaper MB/CPU and memory could release enough cash for a HD5850 or GTX470, which would be a far better all round soloution, particularly at the higher resolution.


Have to say I agree. Was thinking along the same lines when I first read the thread post. Although the i7-930 is a great CPU (as is the X58 setup), you could either consider a less expensive motherboard (and less expensive CPU) or you could even look into an i5-750 with a P55 motherboard. Both of which should save you money, which can then be put into the GPU upgrade.

You'd see better overall performance with an OC'd i5-750 @ ATI 5850/GTX470 than you will with an i7-930 with SLI 9800GTX+ or a ATI 5770.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 8:07:22 PM

Yeah, an i5-750 is a much better value for the money and a good LGA1156 motherboard will be cheaper as well.
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 8:16:22 PM

coozie7 said:

@ Jerreece: Check my specs ;) 


Nice. :)  i5-750 @ Stock with an ATI 5850. I decided on the i5-750 myself for my latest build, over the i7-860 and i7-920 (this was pre i7-930). Reality is, your i5 + 5850 would outperform his i7 + 5770 / 9800GTX+ SLI chances are.

An i5-750 (especially if OC'd) performs extremely well. It and it's motherboards are cheaper too! :) 
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 8:26:38 PM

jerreece said:
Nice. :)  i5-750 @ Stock with an ATI 5850. I decided on the i5-750 myself for my latest build, over the i7-860 and i7-920 (this was pre i7-930). Reality is, your i5 + 5850 would outperform his i7 + 5770 / 9800GTX+ SLI chances are.

An i5-750 (especially if OC'd) performs extremely well. It and it's motherboards are cheaper too! :) 

agreed, if this is a gaming rig, for the most part, really directing just about as much money as possible in the gpu subsystem would be advised, losing ht in the 750 honestly has zero impact on gaming, as it's already ridiculously powerful, compared to the cpu demands of modern games compared wall of power you need to push those pixels in games with eyecandy

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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 9:09:46 PM

ohh wow double post my bad
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 9:18:55 PM

jonnyboyC said:
ohh wow double post my bad


aha!! trying to rack up on points :lol: 
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 9:34:47 PM

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It's a push. My old single 9800GX2 pulled like 9500 in Vantage and thats right around what a 5770 pulls


LOL Okay Bragster (I'm teasing) what's your Vantage score with your TriSLI GTX 470 setup? :)  Just out of curiosity. One of these days I need to break down and buy the license for Vantage.. or just wait for their 2011 version.
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a b U Graphics card
July 6, 2010 10:22:52 PM

OvrClkr said:
aha!! trying to rack up on points :lol: 


i know i'm just pretending to have accidental hit the submit button, then another post clearing it up and this post 4 posts!!!

anyways back on topic, i think i would advise anyone to go with a single card solution, over a CF or SLI setup, for the simple fact they are less power hungry, cooler, and overall a much simpler and less stressful, with setup, and of course the chance sli or cf isn't scaling well in a game or does doesn't work at all.

this that leaves room for more expansion later on, if your mobo only supports for example only pci-e 8x or 16x on two slots, then you have nowhere else to go, if you get a 5850 or a 5770 then you can expand later down the road
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a b U Graphics card
July 7, 2010 1:35:10 AM

The 5770 is the better option. Newer, cooler, an upgrade path, etc. I have one--it never exceeds 40 degrees and runs fine off a Corsair 400CX.

Two GTX's will run very hot, and require a very significant power source.
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July 7, 2010 5:14:54 AM

Thanks everyone for the answers! Kept me from buying the 2 9800's. BTW I bought the 930 for only $197.86 Out the door at micro center :D . So the i7 is already with me. I'm very open to new suggestions...as long as the card is in the $137-$220 range :) . I'm most likely going to get the Asus p6x58D as the mobo. Is this a good choice? Having a severe cold isn't helping with the math either :pt1cable: .

So Far Specs are NOW as follows:( Feel free to suggest cheaper or better options)
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black Steel ATX Full Tower
http://tiny.cc/2tuez
Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz
http://tiny.cc/microCntr
G.SKILL 6GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel
http://tiny.cc/68fub
ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58(Open for suggestions!!)
http://tiny.cc/kn1wf
HITACHI Deskstar 1TB 7200 RPM
http://tiny.cc/7u7e2
XFX Black Edition P750W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply(Open for suggestions!!)
http://tiny.cc/qg1u7
XFX Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5(Open for suggestions!!)
http://tiny.cc/l65af
:sol: 


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a b U Graphics card
July 7, 2010 5:54:33 AM

Don't buy XFX unless you absolutely need the warranty, the Hawk is much more card for only 18 dollars more.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_5770_HAWK/34....

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-r5770-hawk-review/25

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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 7, 2010 6:25:32 AM

This combo has half an hour left I think so I hope you are around to get it now;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Antec 900 case + Antec Earthwatts 650w PSU + HITACHI Deskstar 1TB for only $140 after rebate. Basically you get the hard drive free and the deal for the case/PSU is already pretty nice on it's own really.
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July 9, 2010 6:14:37 AM

sorry jy i was unable to look at the deal :/ . Thanks for taking the time to post it though!

OvrClkr. I will definitely get that card if i get the 5770. but may I ask why not go with XFX? I love their stuff..been using them and EVGA for all of my builds.

Also I've raised my price range to $250-$265.. i know that is a big jump in different cards...but i feel like i need a solid gpu and would like it to be "future proof," with DX11, and would like to see a difference in FPS from my 8800GTS 512 SSC. Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate all of this!!
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a b U Graphics card
July 9, 2010 6:26:46 AM

If you are going to leave the card at stock then the XFX would be the obvious choice, if you want a nice 20/25% increase in performance you will want a card that has voltage control.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 9, 2010 7:08:28 AM

venom831 said:
Also I've raised my price range to $250-$265.. i know that is a big jump in different cards...but i feel like i need a solid gpu and would like it to be "future proof," with DX11, and would like to see a difference in FPS from my 8800GTS 512 SSC.

Well, in that price range you could OC a GTX 465 but really the best value is if you bump the budget up a little more and go for an HD5850 or GTX 470. They are the best deals around on the high end and can both OC a huge amount.
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a b U Graphics card
July 9, 2010 7:27:48 AM

I would agree unfortunately, the 250ish range is no longer a sweet spot like last generation, (275 and 4890 packed one hell of a punch for the money), now in their place you have 5830, and the gtx 465 both the worst cards for, the 5xxx and the 4xx series, they come in at right about the performance of the 275 4890, and about at the same cost,

So IMO i would probalby just dish out the extra cash for the 5850, as my first personal fav option, followed by buying a 5770 now, CF later, and if you don't want to shell out the cash, and you don't like the idea of CF, then consider the 5830 or the gtx 465
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July 12, 2010 9:34:01 PM

Thanks everybody for your answers! Looks like i'm going to spring for the new GTX 460 from MSI...think that's a good choice?
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July 12, 2010 9:37:59 PM

Best answer selected by Venom831.
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a b U Graphics card
July 12, 2010 9:43:17 PM

Wait for the Asus TOP GTX 460 if you want crazy clocks and low temps..

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a c 273 U Graphics card
February 24, 2012 12:53:57 AM

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