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August 11, 2010 10:56:16 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week

BUDGET RANGE: $650

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor (will buy 22" monitor later)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, ewiz.com, tigerdirect.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US

PARTS PREFERENCES: Need video card to run SW The Old Republic, SC2, Mass Effect 3 when it comes out

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: I want my video card to produce above games at 1920 x 1200, or 1920 x 1080 at highest settings on 22" monitor

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I've purchased a few parts already. They are:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 870 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Here we go:

I'm sort of on a budget. Perhaps I shouldn't have gotten the 955 deneb CPU, but I wanted it. I want to be able to run games (SWTOR when it comes out, SC2, COD Black Ops) at high frame rates on one monitor, 22" or so.

I'm debating getting a Radeon 5750 1GB 128-Bit video card, but not sure if this will give me the desired results above. Will it? I've also considered upgrading to a 5770 1GB Juniper, but this is a little pricey, puts me over budget. But if this is what is needed to get the desired performance, I'll buy it.

Lastly, I could crossfire 2 5750s on my motherboard, but my mobo is 16x / 4x. I wanted 16 / 8 but this motherboard was $60. I know performance wise it would take a hit, but I also know from other threads here the hit is not that big. I could also buy one 5770 with the intention of adding another this spring to crossfire the two of them, but for only one 22" monitor is that overkill? I just want high resolution (19xx x 10/12xx or 25xx x whatever) gaming at high fps on one screen. What graphics card (or crossfire) will do what I need it to, and not less than I need it to?

Last question,

According to newegg.com's PSU calculator with the above specs and 5750s crossfired I only need 510W of PSU. I already have a 530W. I know if I go the crossfire 5770s I need to upgrade. Otherwise I've been planning on purchasing a PSU. Input there?

Thank you so much!

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August 11, 2010 11:30:34 PM

See the PSU guide in my sig please.

As to the GPU, I think you should get ONE and either a GTX 460 or a 5850. Both are good price/performance ratios and the best deal given your MB.

ME2 and SWOTOR will run just fine, max settings, on a single GTX 460 at 19x10. The 5850 would probably keep you happy longer though.
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August 11, 2010 11:47:15 PM

Proximon said:
See the PSU guide in my sig please.

As to the GPU, I think you should get ONE and either a GTX 460 or a 5850. Both are good price/performance ratios and the best deal given your MB.

ME2 and SWOTOR will run just fine, max settings, on a single GTX 460 at 19x10. The 5850 would probably keep you happy longer though.



Is a GTX 465 better or worse than a 460? This is a deal on newegg this month:
ASUS ENGTX465/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

After rebate and coupon code it comes out to $198

This TX or 5850 kills my budget, oh well, should have budgeted more.
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August 12, 2010 12:06:34 AM

GTX 465 is worse, older hotter design. Not a good performer. It's GTX 460 or GTX 470... but the 470 is hot also. Good benchmarks but hot.

Get the GTX 460.
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August 12, 2010 12:15:46 AM

Do you think a 5770 would outdate itself too fast? Or would it even run SWTOR at highest res?
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August 12, 2010 1:15:30 AM

Proximon said:
If you bought one counting on adding a second later I think you might be too late.

If you did get one I would recommend getting a 22" monitor at 1680x1050 instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That would help... shop locally for a monitor when possible.



would a 460 with only 768MB RAM support the original higher rez of 1900 x whatever?

this one perhaps?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 12, 2010 1:36:47 AM

I think that 1GB should be a minimum now. The benchmarks I have seen confirm that.

If you use the promo code "PREPPY", according to this thread:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1538838

Then this Zotac is $210
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=ZT-GX460GB&title=ZO...
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August 12, 2010 1:47:21 AM

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