Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question
Solved

Gaming pc build (noob here)

Last response: in Systems
Share
August 12, 2010 3:16:21 AM

well im building a PC now, but I would like some help on finding a good build, with monitor.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week/in a few days

BUDGET RANGE: 1500-1600 after rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard and mouse, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: usa

PARTS PREFERENCES: would prefer amd/ati, but a nice intel build is fine too. using antec 900 case

OVERCLOCKING: maybe. would like good stats either way

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: in the future

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200 (I think thats HD 1080p right???)

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: quiet

More about : gaming build noob

Related resources
August 12, 2010 4:28:30 AM

Please check out the benchmarks for the 750/760 and 920/930 : Far Cry
August 12, 2010 4:47:35 AM

calguyhunk said:
BTW, I did'nt notice it at first. Are you recommending the GTX 460 over the 5870? I mean seriously? You do read benchmarking tests results, right?

High End Videocards. The 460 is at least 5 places below in the pecking order.


Could run 2 of them for a few bucks more and that'd be better. Given that his build was with an i5 instead of an i7 and ran a cheaper mobo, it's doable.
August 13, 2010 3:46:13 AM

for cost effectivity (is that a word?), would the i7 with 5870 be better than the i5 with dual 460s? the 460 is about 220 right now, and that is pretty much double that of the 460. so cost wise, dual 460s are the same as a 5870. Im a super noob at this, so which one is better for gaming?
August 13, 2010 3:59:28 AM

also three questions:
1) do I need a HSF? is it necessary for non-OCed usage?

my reason for asking this is because I might want to save some cash and get the HSF later.

2)is 850 watt also needed? for OC? or for upgrading to CFX/SLI later?

3) just a knowledge question: What are the reasons for getting a "better"mobo when upgrading the processor? what attributes are important when matching a cpu to a mobo? Id really like to learn. thx in advance. you guys rock.

August 13, 2010 4:13:29 AM

1) You don't need a HSF if you're not going to overclock.

2) 850W isn't needed for either of the builds mentioned above. You would want 750-850W for a 5870 CrossFire system.

3) More expensive motherboards tend to have additional features geared towards overclocking, or they have more expansion slots, or Bluetooth connectivity, or other wacky features that the manufacturers think up. The only important part when matching a CPU to a mobo is what socket the CPU is and what socket the mobo is.

For example, the i5-750, in the specs, lists socket LGA 1156. If you go look at mobos on newegg now, click Intel motherboards, about halfway down the guided search, you'll see that you can select by socket type, and you would pick Socket LGA 1156. There are actually a number of links for that socket, so you would want to either click through all of them, or narrow the list down in some other fashion first. (Most likely by selecting the P55 Northbridge motherboards.)

For your budget, and for a purely gaming build, you should either go with the i5-750 or an AMD Phenom II X4 955 -- the hyperthreading that i7s have offers little to no gaming benefit, so you'd be paying more for a feature you wouldn't be using. The basic difference in platform cost is about $75-100 (Intel will be more expensive for equivalent quality parts). At this budget, that difference is unlikely to result in a larger graphics card, but it might get you improved performance in another area.

I'm afraid I don't have time for a full build now, but I'll try to post something tomorrow.
August 13, 2010 4:24:18 AM

Quote:
the hyperthreading that i7s have offers little to no gaming benefit, so you'd be paying more for a feature you wouldn't be using.

oh...so the i7 is no better than the i5 for gaming? alright then.
hope you can post a build. thx for the help man.
August 13, 2010 4:56:15 PM

I put this together yesterday, prices shouldn't have changed any in the last 24 hours.

CPU - i5-760 - $210
Mobo - Asus P7P55D-E Pro - $160 - CrossFire at 8x/8x, USB 3.0 & SATA 6.0 Gb/s
RAM - G.Skill ECO Series 1600 MHz CL7 4 GB kit - $103 - or Mushkin Blackline 1600 MHz CL7 4 GB kit - $97 (very very slightly looser timings, higher voltage)
GPU - Gigabyte 480 - $450
or
2x Gigabyte 460 - $200 each, total $400 - better deal, less of an upgrade path
SSD - OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB - $310
HDD - Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB - $60 (big sale right now, apparently)
ODD - cheapest SATA DVD burner with free shipping - $20
PSU - Seasonic 850W 80+ Silver Active PFC - $120
Case - HAF 922 - $90 + 10 shipping - or whatever else tickles your fancy

Total: $1533 (didn't search for combos, no shipping calculated except on the case, used the more expensive RAM and the 480)
August 13, 2010 4:57:01 PM

^ 100% Kickass

go with eco, and one 480 (add another down the line)

Best solution

August 13, 2010 5:11:23 PM
Share

Do you need a monitor with this? If so, cut the SSD, you won't lose any gaming performance.

Looks like I forgot to include an OS as well. Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit is $100.

If you want a HSF for overclocking, look at Frostytech's top "5" heatsinks for ideas.

EDIT:
Build without SSD, leaving $$ for monitor.
CPU - i5-760 - $210
Mobo - Asus P7P55D-E Pro - $160 - CrossFire at 8x/8x, USB 3.0 & SATA 6.0 Gb/s
RAM - G.Skill ECO Series 1600 MHz CL7 4 GB kit - $103 - or Mushkin Blackline 1600 MHz CL7 4 GB kit - $97 (very very slightly looser timings, higher voltage)
GPU - Gigabyte 480 - $450
or
2x Gigabyte 460 - $200 each, total $400 - better deal, less of an upgrade path
HDD - Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB - $60 (big sale right now, apparently)
ODD - cheapest SATA DVD burner with free shipping - $20
PSU - Seasonic 850W 80+ Silver Active PFC - $120
Case - HAF 922 - $90 + 10 shipping - or whatever else tickles your fancy
OS - Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit - $100
Monitor - you should be able to find a good 1920x1080 monitor for $200 or less

Total: $1323 (didn't search for combos, no shipping calculated except on the case, used the more expensive RAM and the 480)
August 13, 2010 5:14:26 PM

calguyhunk said:
Please check out the benchmarks for the 750/760 and 920/930 : Far Cry

not worth 6FPS dude


and umad bout something? calm down, 2 gtx 460s are better.
August 13, 2010 5:20:41 PM

I would also say if you're going with the 2x460's, you could step down to a high quality 750w PSU no problem, even if you're ocing BOTH the cards and the CPU. I would say Seasonic, Corsair or XFX.
August 13, 2010 5:22:09 PM

or coolermaster/antec ^
August 13, 2010 5:26:18 PM

Agreed on the PSU sizing. I mentioned that in the post I originally had for this build, but didn't put that comment on this one.
August 13, 2010 5:28:09 PM

[:phantom93] that explains EVERYTHING am i rite? nah.. srry..

But always go with a trusted PSU brand, you really don't want to cheap out on it.
August 14, 2010 11:06:24 PM

another couple of questions guys:

1) what is the differance between the system builder's edition of windows 7 and the normal home premium?

2) What is the benefit of having a SSD?

note to mr. pizza: I wasn't angry (I guess i sounded a bit sarcastic) :D 

August 15, 2010 3:54:06 PM

1) With the system builder's version, it's only licensed for that motherboard, and you can't call up Microsoft and ask for help with an OS issue. Generally you can't transfer the license to another computer unless your motherboard was damaged in some way and you need to replace it. On the Microsoft support side...I don't know anyone that has ever had to do that, I usually just find my answers on google.

2) An SSD gives you faster boot and application launches and generally just makes the system feel snappier. It's not worth breaking your budget to get one, and they're still pretty new, so there are likely going to be more improvements within the next year or so.

This article is a few months out of date on product recommendations, but otherwise it's a good overview of the technology: Anandtech's SSD Relapse.
August 17, 2010 12:45:12 AM

Thanks for all your help guys. I am going with the ECO RAM and the 480 GPU as well as a corsair 750w PSU and the antec 900 case (looks supa awesome :D  )

Ill be receiving my parts in a couple of days. Hope it works out.
Thanks again,
Broccoli21
August 17, 2010 12:45:40 AM

Best answer selected by broccoli21.
August 20, 2010 8:49:28 AM

thanks again for the build guys... it was made for me by my friend
I ordered the parts and I'm now building it, however I can't figure out how to fit all the wires together.
I've put all the hardware into the case (AZZA Solano 1000 Black/Black Japanese SECC Steel/Metal mesh in front ATX Full Tower Computer Case) but connecting the power supply to all the LED lights, motherboard, and configuring all the wires efficiently is the problem. If you guess know if theres any good guides/videos or if one of you could help that would be greatly appreciated.
August 20, 2010 8:30:48 PM

thanks for the guide it was helpful...
however now that the hardware is installed, I get a red light on the motherboard that indicates something wrong with the RAM. (I've checked the manuel and it is installed correctly) Does anyone have a solution???
!