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First Time Builder - How does this setup look for gaming? ($850 max)

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August 12, 2010 5:01:28 PM

Hello,

I'm in the process of building a moderate level, budget gaming pc. My old PC just died, after moving across the country to CA, and thus I'm looking to purchase relatively quickly. After doing some research and reading the common suggestions and comments on the forums here, this is the build that I have come up with. I would greatly appreciate any advice or comments you all have on it. Without further ado...

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week, within the next few days.

BUDGET RANGE: End cost after rebates needs to be about $800 - to a max of $850.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming first and foremost, steaming video, surfing the web.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg, microcenter, amazon, or tiger direct.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States of America

PARTS PREFERENCES: No strong preference. Want low cost + performance. Normally, that means AMD from what I've been able to tell.

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Likely 1600X1200 or so.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I would like to have the option of SLI, and overclocking, even though my needs may not require it right now.

This is the build I came up with, please comment:

GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready + SC2 Wings of Liberty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Processor + MOBO:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor.
ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

PSU + Ram: XFX P1-650X-CAG9 650W ATX12V 2.2 / ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power ...
+ G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Case + HDD: Thermaltake V9 Black Edition ATX Computer Gaming Chassis with Dual Oversized 230mm Ultra-Silent Cooling Fans VJ400G1N2Z Mid ..
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Optical Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: I have no OS, but factored that cost in after the 800 price. Looking to get windows 7, cheapest I've found is $100. If anyone has a recommendation on that, I'd appreciate it. However, the OS price does NOT factor into the $850 max budget I've set here.

I got most of these specs from reading other recommendations in other threads, special thanks to snoshi who had very helpful answers and recommendations which I used liberally here.

Again, looking to purchase ASAP. Thanks in advance for your help!!
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August 12, 2010 5:21:59 PM

You can't SLI on an AMD chipset. So if you go AMD, you're better off with ATi GPU.

There are some 3rd party chipsets that work, but none are supported by AMD.

Phenom II x4 + 5850 + OS build

RAm
G Skill eco $103
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case/Optical
CM 690 and Samsung $73 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

PSU/HD
XFX 650 and F3 1tb $135 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

MOBO/OS
GA 790 UD4 and win 7 64 bit oem $230 w/ $15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

GPU/CPU
Phenom II X4 955 and xfx 5850 $430
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Total: $945 including shipping rebates and OS.
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August 12, 2010 5:34:40 PM

Ah. Well thank you for clarifying that to me.

Hmm, so If I want to use the GTX 460, I will need to switch to a core i5 type build with a different motherboard. Of the processors the i5 750 seems like a good one.

So If I stick with the GTX 460, do you have any recommendations about a more compatible processor + MOBO to use with it?



Also, I wanted to ask, from a practical standpoint, how important is SLI capability? I had wanted to include it as an option, but if it's not practical, or particularly useful, I can cut it and stick with this current build. Mostly, I play games like SC2, MMORPGS, like WoW, and turn based strategy like Civ 4. When would it be important for me to consider running two cards in SLI as an option?


Thanks for the advice so far!
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August 12, 2010 5:53:32 PM

5850 is way overkill for 1600*1200 resolution. 5750 is all you need
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-radeon-hd-5570-gaming,2697-3.html


PSU + Ram: XFX P1-650X-CAG9 650W ATX12V 2.2 / ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power ...
+ G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL - $150 AR (same as OP)

CPU + MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.470476 - $337
better cpu and mobo from the savings. 890fx chipset is really much better.

Case + Optical: CM 690 and Samsung - $63 AR (same as above)

Graphics: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121356 - $120 AR

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 - $60
best sale going on right now. best non-ssd harddrive

total AR: $730

i would recommend a good aftermarket cooler for oc'ing. best bang for the buck would be either scythe mugen or hyper 212+ wouldnt run you more than 50 bucks. you dont need high end heatsinks as you're not oc'ing i7's or i5's.

since you're that much underbudget, you could even consider upgrading motherboards.
or even this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.470484
for only $18 more. you get 6 cores, which doesnt matter for gaming, just for other multitasking things. if you dont need 6 cores. opt for a better motherboard
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August 12, 2010 11:38:30 PM

Ok, after reading the comments, I've made a few changes and want to get some feedback on the newer build I have here.

First, I did a bit more research on SLI, and I'm not convinced that it's a feature I will actually use, my gaming tastes just don't demand or make use of it. So, that being an option on the board really isn't an issue anymore.

Second, I would like to keep the graphics card I initially picked, the GTX 460 and the SC2 package if possible.

Third, I liked the idea of improving the processor and motherboard - I would imagine this gives the rig a bit more longevity towards future upgrades and use.

So, here it is: So long as all of the components will work together without issue, I have to say that I really like the build. So, unless there is a problem with it I think this is what I would like to go with.

Case + Optical: COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case + SAMSUNG 24x DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

GPU + game: GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

PSU + Memory: XFX P1-650X-CAG9 650W ATX12V 2.2 / ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

MOBO + Processor: ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AR this puts me at $880, roughly. That's about $30 over the budget I initially wanted, but I just sold one of my textbooks today for a good chunk of cash, so the extra $30 doesn't bother me.

Conclusion: Take a look at the current build and let me know of any changes or comments you have. As long as everything will work together (and I believe it should) I think the system will do everything that I need it to do.
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August 13, 2010 3:09:31 AM

Sorry to bump this, but I'd like to buy as soon as possible. Just want to ensure that the latest build I posted is a good one.

Thanks all!
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August 13, 2010 3:21:45 AM

sounds good! i pretty much recommended this exact build to another person. looks solid and good to go. happy building
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