which is better?

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Do not buy the 9800GT. It consumes about 80w - 83w of power. More than is recommended for a 300w PSU; unless you are gonna buy a new PSU. It requires a 6-pin power connector. Since it is "open box" you don't know why it was returned.

The HD 5670 consumes under 30w so no additional 6-pin power connector is necessary. It is also new. But you need to deal with a mail-in rebate.

See following HD 5670 review. I think the 9800 GT is about a powerful as the GT 240 in the review. I could be wrong though. I do know it is less powerful than the GT 250.

http://www.www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5670-hd5570-hd5450_2.html#sect0

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thanks for the help guys but now im stuck between these 2 cards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121352R&cm_re=9800_gt-_-14-121-352R-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131334&cm_re=hd_5670-_-14-131-334-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

leaning more toward the radeon due to it not being open box
 
Do not buy the 9800GT. It consumes about 80w - 83w of power. More than is recommended for a 300w PSU; unless you are gonna buy a new PSU. It requires a 6-pin power connector. Since it is "open box" you don't know why it was returned.

The HD 5670 consumes under 30w so no additional 6-pin power connector is necessary. It is also new. But you need to deal with a mail-in rebate.

See following HD 5670 review. I think the 9800 GT is about a powerful as the GT 240 in the review. I could be wrong though. I do know it is less powerful than the GT 250.

http://www.www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5670-hd5570-hd5450_2.html#sect0
 
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ok im going with the radeon its the same spot on the hierarchy needs less PSU and i looked up some videos and its awesome i was pretty amazed when people in the reviews said 1680x1050 was low res considering my current one doesn't go that high

thank you all again for all your help