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August 13, 2010 8:10:19 AM

Hey Im new to tom's so please bear with me. I have a computer I want to build but idk if its too much or what? Im lookin for input from people who know CAD, graphic design, and extreme gaming.

Here are the specs:
Mountain Mods U2-UFO case

Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000 x2

Seagate Barracuda 7200 1tb hard drive x1

EVGA GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) VGA x3

G.Skill 24gb memory DDR3 2000

EVGA Classified SR-2 motherboard

OCZ Z-Drive R2 256gb SSD

Intel Xeon X5680 Westmere 3.33GHz Six-Core Server Processor x2

PSU what do ya'll recomend?

I know that it is $ but money doesnt matter, just ur opinion.

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August 13, 2010 8:30:07 AM

^ Ohh boy that is one config there...Hope you know what you are doing...
And if it was a CAD and graphic design, then I would rather get the new Quadro 4000 and above, but they wont help in gaming though...

As for the PSU for such a config - Corsair AX1200 would be my pick...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Or
SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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August 13, 2010 2:12:39 PM

oh yes ^ you will have a real space heater.

If you are really doing this, water cooling is the way to go.
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August 13, 2010 3:14:07 PM

lol yea i would...im gonna make my own water cooling setup. the case im using will have more than enough room to do that. Now as for the gaming i know someone who did a similar setup and had no problems with gaming, even though he used amd instead :pfff: 

Now as for the psu ill prob go with the silverstone cause i like their products
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August 13, 2010 3:51:24 PM

@gkay09 "Ohh boy that is one config there...Hope you know what you are doing...
And if it was a CAD and graphic design, then I would rather get the new Quadro 4000 and above, but they wont help in gaming though..."



Yes i agree with the Quadro 4000 but at the same time I like gaming too...I thought about the ATI 5970 but idk thats gonna be like $2-3k in cards...I kinda have a budget but its high :D 

I also plan on adding about 6tbs later on and do server hosting as well: gaming, websites, etc...
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August 13, 2010 4:15:56 PM

I would say, get two 480s and add another if you think you need more.
Or go with FirePro/Quadro ;) 
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August 13, 2010 4:18:04 PM

Mr Pizza said:
I would say, get two 480s and add another if you think you need more.
Or go with FirePro/Quadro ;) 



I have never used firepro/quadro so if you could give more info in that thanks...I know i could go look it up but it helps to hear it from someone who knows the product.
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August 13, 2010 4:24:30 PM

suggestion on the hard drives: get a SSD or two instead of the raptors, and check out the spinpoint F3.

I keep hearing that scaling after two GPUs isnt very good, maybe get two 480s or 5970s and see if you want to upgrade later. I dont know much about the quadros.
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August 13, 2010 4:39:28 PM

Agreed, get a fast 7200RPM drive(s) instead of Raptors. And man, you don't need two 5970s... you just don't.
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August 13, 2010 4:50:27 PM

hold on, what resolution are you working at? are you gonna use eyefinity?
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August 13, 2010 4:52:47 PM

no, he will be doing graphic design ;) 
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August 13, 2010 4:55:48 PM

wouldnt a couple 480s or 5970s still be overkill on anything smaller than a 30"? Im just trying to figure out why he wants 3. working on a 60" TV or eyefinity 6 for example
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August 13, 2010 4:58:29 PM

You can't have 3 5970s first of all, 30 inches doesn't mean anything. The res matters
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August 13, 2010 4:59:32 PM

@rainvie1 i do agree now since ive looked at some ssd i will get an 250+gb I have had bad luck with the Spinpoint f3. I have heard that too but if you dont have the right set up you will get the bad scaling.

@Mr. Pizza the 5970s were an idea that was never gonna happen...i thought i would put that out there just to see what ya'll thought.

-texas
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August 13, 2010 5:03:52 PM

ok im using that samsung t260hd tv/monitor if that helps ya'll...i will be mostly doing CAD and GD with some gaming on the side...which is the reason im going with the 480s in sli....then later on I will be doing local lan games, and add more drives for doing a server.
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August 13, 2010 5:06:48 PM

back off on the ram for now dude..
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August 13, 2010 5:09:07 PM

Im not gonna do that at least 1 or 2 years
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August 13, 2010 5:10:29 PM

Yeah, so back off on the ram :p  you only need like 12 gigs, if you feel you need more get more.
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August 13, 2010 5:21:19 PM

texasman89 said:
...I have had bad luck with the Spinpoint f3.

-texas


well I own both Seagate 7200 and Samsung Spinpoint F3. Here's a few benchmarks so you can see the performance comparison:




They are about even except the Spinpoint comes out ahead in random 512k writes and absolutely destroys the Seagate in both sequential reads and writes. I'm not sure how that will translate to real-world performance for you, but the Spinpoints are very quiet, whereas my Seagate is obnoxiously loud. Then again, I guess if you're looking at a GTX480 you don't care much about obnoxiously loud. :D 
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August 13, 2010 5:24:40 PM

well duh ^ the spinpoint rulez all!!!!!!!!!!
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August 13, 2010 5:54:47 PM

by 30" I meant something like 2560 x 1600. with the monitor you have even a couple 480s should be plenty.
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August 13, 2010 7:56:38 PM

Mr Pizza said:
well duh ^ the spinpoint rulez all!!!!!!!!!!


AND the 1tb drives are on sale right now for $59.99 on newegg. I'm thinking about buying a fourth just cuz that price is too awesome.



now to texasman: I do AutoCAD, Photoshop, Illustrator, 3DS Max and gaming. And I use my PC for Home Theatre too. What you want to build is waaaaay overkill for your purposes. You could build a computer that would be absolutely blazing fast for your purposes, but cost thousands less and be much more quiet as well. You could use the money you save to buy surround sound speaker system, a huge ass monitor and 3D gear or whatever. I mean if you want bragging rights that's fine, but IMHO you could spend your hard-earned cash more efficiently.
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August 13, 2010 8:00:08 PM

Dude, texasman. You should just build two different systems, one for gaming, one for 3d editing.
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August 13, 2010 8:00:47 PM

Just to point out, that is comparing the 7200.11, an older Seagate model with the Spinpoint F3, a new Samsung model.

The Seagate 7200.12 (new model) uses the same platter size (500 GB) and has very similar performance to the Sepinpoint F3.
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August 13, 2010 8:59:46 PM

coldsleep said:
Just to point out, that is comparing the 7200.11, an older Seagate model with the Spinpoint F3, a new Samsung model.

The Seagate 7200.12 (new model) uses the same platter size (500 GB) and has very similar performance to the Sepinpoint F3.



good point. i kinda assumed .11 cuz I read a lot of people had reliability/quality issues with the .12 series that weren't as prevalent with .11
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August 13, 2010 9:14:06 PM

below20hz said:
good point. i kinda assumed .11 cuz I read a lot of people had reliability/quality issues with the .12 series that weren't as prevalent with .11


Actually, I think you've got that the wrong way around. Lots of people had issues with the .11 series, which caused many people to stay away from the .12 series, which is very good.
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August 13, 2010 9:27:20 PM

coldsleep said:
Actually, I think you've got that the wrong way around. Lots of people had issues with the .11 series, which caused many people to stay away from the .12 series, which is very good.


well your half right. the .11 seems to be worse. but .12 being good? check the 800+ reviews on newegg for 1tb 7200.12

it ain't much prettier than the 750gb 7200.11 (sorry couldn't find the 1tb 7200.11)
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August 13, 2010 10:51:40 PM

Ok thanks below20hz I agree with you on the parts I think ill switch to the amd 965 black. I have made sever gaming computers with that. I think I will also go with a single core work machine. Ohh yea im keeping my resolution at 1920x1080 i like it alot. Might to 3 monitors :D 
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