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I7 860 vs AMD x4 955 BE

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October 27, 2010 1:13:38 PM

Currently my computer has:

Processor: i7 860
Motherboard: ASRock p55 extreme,
RAM: 4GB of DDR3 Dual Channel \
HDD: 500GB Caviar Black
Video Card: ATI 5870

My wife on the other hand:

Processor: AMD x4 955 BE,
Motherboard: ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770
RAM: 4GB of DDR3 Dual Channel
HDD: 500GB Caviar Black
Video Card: ATI 5850

Now obviously my computer has more processing power and should have better graphics rendering. I can't figure this out for the life of me. The problem is she is getting higher FPS on most games. Could it be because we are matching AMD with ATI on her box and Intel with ATI on mine?

For instance, we are playing Vindictus and shes never dropping below 60+ fps... just solid as ever.
My box on the other hand with LOWER graphics settings is not running as stable.

What the heck is going on!??! Any ideas?!

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October 27, 2010 1:31:38 PM

Beats Me!! But the only explanation I can give is Asus is better than ASrock.....
And certainly an AMD + ATI combo has been great for gaming even when ATI was not a Part of AMD......
Intel on the other hand moves hand in hand with Nvidia...... although..... AMD and Nvidia also works out perfectly well....
So the final conclusion works out this, that AMD is better for gaming .
And Intel is better for processing power and encoding stuff basically it's good for heavily threaded applications....
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October 27, 2010 1:36:27 PM

Thank you for the reply. Yeah I think i'm starting to see how much better AMD is for gaming. AMD FTW
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October 27, 2010 1:38:23 PM

This is something surprising. But guess would be something is eating up your resources that is causing the choking. Check for the games if the vsync is ON on your machine.

AMD+ATI, Intel+nVidia is rubbish!
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October 27, 2010 1:44:56 PM

We both have Windows 7. Hers has all kind of crap running on it because she never wants to reformat. Mine has a fresh install of Windows 7 Ultimate on it. I tried the game with vsync on and off with no difference. This is really racking my brain.
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October 27, 2010 1:47:13 PM

Just do a Alt-TAB and come out of the game and check Task Manager. It may throw some light on the matter. Otherwise, this is really baffling!
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October 27, 2010 1:50:52 PM

This could probably be due to the higher stock clock rate of the 955.. Also, check if HT is enabled on your processor.. If so then disable it..
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October 27, 2010 1:52:16 PM

Lol!!! "Rubbish" is a pretty big statement, when really most people have had similar experiences.....
But not everyone has such experiences......
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October 27, 2010 2:03:52 PM

Emperus said:
This could probably be due to the higher stock clock rate of the 955.. Also, check if HT is enabled on your processor.. If so then disable it..


Interesting.. never thought about that. I'll give it a look
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October 27, 2010 2:27:56 PM

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You guys have no idea how games work.Some games prefer a particular system over another.Game are coded with billions of code.If those codes are optimised for a certain setup then when that game finds that near matching setup it will run better on that system.Thats how games work.

Asrock mobo is inferior to an Asus mobo.
@OP How many games you have tried?
@aloyaska Your amd plus Ati and Intel plus nvidia theory is complete rubbish.

Intel iseries based system crushes any amd setup in any games.


You're right. I know nothing about games and I never claimed to. I just enjoy playing them. I look at the facts... my system should blow hers out of the water and it doesn't. To be honest I haven't tried anything else on both systems. I tried 3DMark Vantage.

Results?

My computer blew hers out of the water when it came to the 3D Marks.
PCMark was a totally different story. Her score was much much higher than mine.

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October 27, 2010 2:28:18 PM

LOL..... Dipanker it's not a theory...... it's simple observation.....
and when explaining to an OP it's better not to complicate the issue, for history lessons, since we already have a zillion pages here telling us about multi threaded games and processors.
It's a observation from the Op's point of view......
There is no way in which you can help him tweak his setting to get the Core-i to give him what he wants without going into a total 40 page discussion......

And performances from Anandtech or other site really mean nothing.... even if they're clock to clock.... which other than you very few people are aware of, certainly not a new OP.....
So it's really sad to see you end up confusing people more then solving their issue, with your one line hop and go statements.....
Why don't you answer the OP problem without directing him to other links at toms instead of bickering about what other are saying to help him understand his problem.....
And...... Intel is just into the gaming scene with it's core series..... before that most people preferred AMD...... so results and questions are subject to what people use and not what synthetic benchmarks show.....
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October 27, 2010 4:02:29 PM

I have been playing games for years and OC'ed my AMD thunderbird about 10 years ago... and at that time AMD was vastly preferred. At this point, yes, the iseries line is above AMD's offerings... yet none of that address questions of practicality. Any number of things could cause a game to run more slowly... the most obvious factors are more likely the root of the problem.
OC speed (CPU/ GPU)
% resources... do you have more applications in the background
HHD condition (age, fragmentation, etc)
screen resolution

Esoteric conversations about theoretical constructs are surprisingly unhelpful.
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October 27, 2010 4:16:36 PM

Replying to a thread before reading it is also surprisingly unhelpful.

As stated before, my machine has a fresh install of Windows 7 OEM. I never have anything running in the background when playing a game.

I'm pretty sure the game is just optimized for her system more than mine. Hopefully they will patch this issue and increase performance.
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October 27, 2010 8:45:02 PM

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October 27, 2010 9:11:08 PM

Have you tried any other games?

What was your GPU score on 3Dmark?

It sounds like you're having an issue.

Have you tried reinstalling your video drivers? Are you both using the same version?

Also, AMD is not "better" for games, that is just silly. :)  My soon-to-be 2 generations old Q9550@4ghz beats anything AMD has to offer for almost all games. :) 

Try running a google and see if vindictus is having issues with i7 CPUs if you run out of ideas.
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October 28, 2010 2:59:52 AM

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