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Which is better 5850 or 470 or 5870 or 480 no fps in the equation?

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July 10, 2010 8:44:27 PM

Which is better 5850 or 470 or 5870 or 480 no fps in the equation?
We all know a 5850 & 470 are similar, 470 a bit faster + 5870 & 480 are also similar, 480 a bit faster But what about the the other factors that influence a person's final purchase!

Thus it is in terms of the following:
1. Image Quality
2. Movie Playback (mkv, DVD, Blu ray)
3. HD audio (Also Can any of these cards be used as a primary sound card just want to know)
4. Window Experience
5. Overall gaming experience
6. Build quality
7. Longevity
8. Driver effectiveness
9. CPU compatibility (basically which works better with a lower end processor C2D or X2)
10. Value (Overall bang for buck)

Any responses would be greatly appreciated even new categories I am actually deciding between the 470, 5850 and the 5870 (budget) for my System I think things other than frames should be considered!
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P
Intel E8400 @ 3.0GHZ
Sigma Shark 635w PSU
2gb ddr2 800mhz (I also planning to go to 4gb)
1tb WD Green 32mb cache
500gb Hitachi 16mb cache
Coolermater Centurion 590
Acer 22" 1680 x 1050 monitor
Logitech x540 5.1
July 10, 2010 9:01:16 PM

Explain how my psu is garbage I believe it is made by FSP and I got good rating overall on newegg and a few reviews! It is made of aluminium and has two 20A 12v rails and several review say it provides stable current (ripple) But please tell me more if you know so I could potentially buy a new PSU

I plan to overclock to 3.6 and possibly go i5 or i7 for christmas but I think the e8400 can last me until i9 comes out (quite contenteted)
a c 1410 U Graphics card
July 10, 2010 9:14:10 PM

1 cant tell the difference
2 cant tell the difference
3 cant tell the difference (don't have a clue)
4 cant tell the difference
5 Faster is better
6 cant tell the difference
7 Same
8 Both very good
9 Slowest card with slower CPU's to lessen bottleneck.
10 Based on the deal you get and if you have to replace other components to make it work for one but not the other.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
July 10, 2010 10:10:01 PM

Well your motherboard is crossfire capable and not SLI. So that is a reason to favor ATI if you want an upgrade path. One of the main differences between the cards you are looking at is something you didn't list; power efficiency. The Fermi cards tend to use much more power and give off much more heat than the HD5800 cards if that is a factor to you.
Another thing to consider is overclocking if you plan to do so. With a voltage increase both the HD5850 and GTX 470 can overclock a very large amount, around 40%. This makes them a better value than the HD5870 imo. That card can also OC but be a much smaller percentage because it already starts at such high stock speeds(850mhz.) When both are fully OCed the HD5870 only beats the HD5850 by 6-8% which is a lot considering the extra $100 in price.
Anonymous
July 10, 2010 10:15:13 PM

All overkill for your system, 5770/5830 or wait for new 460.

They will go better with your components and you wont be paying for performance you don't need/cant use!

Also that PSU youi have, htere is nothing wrong with it in terms of it working, just that names like corsair/Enermax ect make better quality PSU supplies. your 650 will not like the task of driving 5850 47 and I dont think it would be wise to try run 5870 or 480 on it, you need a better PSU for that!
a c 126 U Graphics card
July 10, 2010 10:28:27 PM

Even the slowest card out of the ones you mentioned (HD5850) will be bottlenecked by your E8400, and I wouldn't trust that PSU, never heard of the brand.
July 10, 2010 10:42:55 PM

when is the 460 being released
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 10, 2010 10:52:16 PM

The GTX 460 should be out sometime this month. I would have to see the real pricing of the card before saying whether it is a particularly good deal but it may be the right choice for you. Even an HD5770 would be a good choice for 1680x1050 imo.
Your processor is still capable if you give it an OC btw. It should handle 3.5ghz easily and even the stock cooler should be alright for that.
a c 275 U Graphics card
July 11, 2010 12:18:18 AM

At 1680 x 1050 you should get exceptional performance in most games with a card in the GTS250/5750 class:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-radeon-hd-ge...

Your E8400 should be fine, here is a series of gaming tests using a E8400 with various cards at different resolutions:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-december-2008/...

As to other factors you mentioned, I see little difference.

You could make your choice based on some individual card characteristics:
1) Reputation and support of the manufacturer. I would favor XFX or EVGA for their warranty and support.
2) Look at the cooling system. I favor the dual slot type coolers that send the hot vga air directly out the back of the case
instead of letting it recirculate.
3) Size of the card. Will you have trouble fitting a long card in your case?


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