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GTX 460 SLI System- <$1850 w/monitor, Win7, &taxes

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August 16, 2010 12:15:38 AM

Hi All,


First time building a system. Zero experience, zilch, nada. Only certain on four aspects:

1. 2 GTX 1 GB 460s for SLI configuration. Searched all over the web and it seems to be the best bang for the buck right now...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

= $230 x 2= $460

2. ASUS 23 inch monitor, 1080p. Can't get lower, otherwise my eyes start straining.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

=$190

3. Windows 7 Home Premium.
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium/...

= $150

Subtotal= ~800

4. Here's the biggie. Flexible on all other components in term of price and brand, but total cost, including above subtotal AND applicable taxes, should not exceed $1850.

I know this may sound difficult, perhaps even impossible, but I would greatly appreciate any help.
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August 16, 2010 6:26:59 AM
August 16, 2010 11:15:08 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Moniter

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Windows 7

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... SSD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I... CPU, Hardrive, ODD, Case, PSU, Cpu Cooler, Ram and Mother board

the build is 1857 with 60 dollars of mail in rebates, plus they throw in a 4GB USB

this would be about the best thing you could get for your money

are you planning to overclock at all

because with an i7 930 and coolermaster v8 overclocking would a great way to gain performance
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August 16, 2010 11:18:18 AM

just get the moniter in your origonal post instead its a better deal
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August 16, 2010 1:07:56 PM

three good builds there. im a fan of the i7, but the i5 is great and cheaper. you dont want to crossfire or sli a new build because it really limits your upgrade ability. get one good GPU now, and buy a second in a year or two at a lower cost. I would get a 5870 and another later. paired with the 760 or the 930, youre gtg.
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August 16, 2010 2:00:06 PM

well if this build is for gaming mostly i would go for an i5 760 as the only main benefit of having an i7 is that it has hyper threading, which will not help with gaming, it will just help with multitasking
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August 16, 2010 2:14:06 PM

An i7 is simply a better CPU it's much faster clock for clock. If you can afford it go for it.

And I'd stick with 460 sli. 460 sli performs close to 5870 crossfier at a much much lozer price. and overclocked it zill bit 5870 crossfire overclocked.
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August 16, 2010 3:23:06 PM

where are you getting this information from? 2 gtx 460s in sli perform close to 2 5850s in crossfire
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August 16, 2010 3:25:29 PM

trust me its not worth going for an i7 if the pc is mainly for gaming, go for an i5 760
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August 16, 2010 3:46:27 PM

460 sli performs similarly to 5850 CF which is slightly slower than 5870 CF due to the bad 5870 CF scaling.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/03/01/intel-...

as you can see there paired with a 5870 the 930 is a good deal faster. Now consider in most other activities the difference is even greater. Paired with 460 sli a 930 is even faster compared to an i5 750/760. And if he'll upgrade in the future then he'll see even more benefit from the 930.

And then there's x58. Which has a faster ram interface and allows 460 sli to work at their full potential again increasing performance.
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August 16, 2010 4:16:04 PM

Is building a new comp on a soon to be out of date 1156 socket even a good idea?
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August 16, 2010 4:17:43 PM

for a budget of almost $2000, i5 makes more sense for best performance right now, but i7 offers a stronger basis for improvement. I would go with the 930, so your cpu and chipset wont be a bottleneck for future graphics upgrades.
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August 16, 2010 4:32:41 PM

I know x58 benefits are minimal but they are there. And x58 allso allows 3 and 4-way GPU sloution again increasing upgradibility. As for p55 well as said above it's dead and and an i7 870 is the best you can buy for that chipset and that's where it'll stay at from the information I've read. With x58 you have the possibilty to upgrade to a 980/990 when the price drops.

And you want to spend the money on a better GPU? How overkill do you want to make it? 460 sli will handle everything you can throw at it in 1080p.

And please don't tell me to do research. Unless you actually know I haven't.
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August 16, 2010 4:41:48 PM

ah, the apprentice telling the veteran to do research. Welcome to the dork side of the farce.
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August 16, 2010 4:49:18 PM

lol, but it depends on the thread starter, maybe by the time the 980 and 990 drop in price he will get a new pc, because i know the core 2 extremes are still pricy, so it depends if he wants to spend less cash and get a good i5 pc with not much of an upgrade path cpu wise or pay more money and get a good i7 with more of an upgrade path
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August 16, 2010 4:57:12 PM

Somebody_007 said:
I know x58 benefits are minimal but they are there. And x58 allso allows 3 and 4-way GPU sloution again increasing upgradibility.


None of what I'm about to say invalidates the fact that the OP does indeed have enough money for an i7 build, and it should be considered (whether or not it ends up being the final choice).

However, for almost all "regular" builders, 3 and 4-way GPU solutions are not on the table, and it doesn't affect real-world upgradability. By the time most people will be looking at a 3rd or 4th card, at least 1 or 2 new generations of cards will be out, making a new graphics generation a better solution. That's leaving aside the fact that 3 & 4 GPU scaling isn't that great.

Most of the time, the only people that contemplate 3 or 4 GPU solutions are the ones doing it right at the start of the build, in order to get the max fps available at the time of purchase.

Suggesting that someone buy a 2nd card in 6 months to a year is realistic. Suggesting that someone buy 2-3 cards over the next anything is unrealistic. Either the cards will still be expensive, or they'll be off the market by the time the performance is needed to keep pace.
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August 16, 2010 5:38:07 PM

Coldsleep for a single GPU build your completely right of course adding 2-3 cards is absurd, but I think you may have missed the fact that he plans to start of with a dual card setup. And keep in mind 460s are legendary in bang for buck meaning it'll take while before it's better to replace instead of add. And yeah a 760 is better bang for buck but a 930 is still a better plan IMO.

Gordon_81,

Yeah of course it isn't really about right or wrong here it's just which is a mildly better choice than the other. And as you said it's not really up to us to decide.

Mr pizza,

460 sli is still better bang for buck, but again it depends what he wants to do with the system.
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August 17, 2010 6:41:38 AM

Hi All,

Much thanks for all those fruitful posts and helpful advice. I never planned on starting a debate, but I guess things always happen in forums anyways. To clarify, my most important and only objective is to get a rig that is powerful, reliable, and sturdy enough to last me for 2-3 years where I could run almost every game on very high to max settings, at around a 1080p resolution, with occasional forays into 2560 X 1600( how that can be achieved, I have no idea, its just for security's sakes), in the budget I posted above. To that end, it'll best if the all components can work well together, so that one part doesn't tard out and drag the other parts down.

I chose the 460 SLI because I read the reviews on this site as well as others, and it seems to be the best bang for the buck. Unless, of course, some of you here can point me out to more powerful solutions that cost the same if not less.

Regarding the system as a whole, how much cooling would I need for a SLI rig along with an Intel i5/i7 GPU? Would a few fans here and there do it, or would I require things like SuperCooling Compds XYZ or AbsolutZero Temp Ctrl etc.?
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August 17, 2010 9:16:09 AM

the HAF 932 in my build offers very nice air flow. the graphics cards will be fine with it and the cpu cooler in the build would let the i7 930 overclock quite nicely and yeh 2 460's would give you good performance for 2 or 3 years at 1080p. the likely hood of going to 2560 x 1600 is unlikely because most people cant afford 1500 to buy a 30 inch moniter
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