Directx11, or a faster card?

[falseg0d]

I want something fast, so I was looking at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150436&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

But then somebody mentioned DX11 to me, and I began to rethink things. I would probably choose something cheaper, but something along the lines of: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873&cm_re=radeon_hd_5770-_-14-102-873-_-Product

Would I notice a difference in the memory interface? Should I go with DX11 for future proofing?

 

[rolli59]

HD4870 is comparable in performance with HD5770 and needs to be substantially cheaper to be bought in front of the HD5770. Looks like that XFX card is that on this weekend deal.

 

[falseg0d]

Oh, wrong link for the second card. Go me!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873&cm_re=radeon_hd_5770-_-14-102-873-_-Product
Is what I was going to compare it to.

 

[falseg0d]

So even though the 4870 has twice the bus that the 5770 has, they are about the same?
So it would be a better choice to stick with the 5770.

 

[rolli59]

DX11 is nice but there are few games that support it although we see more and more coming out. Between those cards there is about $40 difference (counting shipping) which to me is in favor of the HD4870 card.

 

[rolli59]

In this link you can compare the gaming performance of the cards http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_465_Twin_Frozr_II/29.html

 

[falseg0d]

I think by the time new games that use Directx11 come out it would be time to upgrade, which gives the dx11 cards time to drop a bit.

 

[falseg0d]

In the link it only shows a 512mb 4870, so with that in mind would a 1g version stack up slightly better?

 

[falseg0d]

If I was going to spend 190-200 dollars, there are HD 5830's I would pick out.

 

[jyjjy]

I would just get this one instead;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102858
$17 less than the other sapphire card and the reference fan is fine for a card like the HD5770.

 

[rolli59]

In the link it only shows a 512mb 4870, so with that in mind would a 1g version stack up slightly better?

With AA and AF turned on a 1Gb card is going to stack up better.

 

[falseg0d]

I like that last card you posted jyjjy.

 

[jyjjy]

It's the best priced HD5770 on the egg at the moment.

 

[erdinger]

Also when playing games with a 5770 you will probably turn dx11 off because the frames will drop too low

 

[jyjjy]

Also when playing games with a 5770 you will probably turn dx11 off because the frames will drop too low

You just entirely made that up.
In some titles DX11 has only a small performance hit and in others it actually improves performance. On top of that he never even mentioned his resolution which would be key info before even considering making a statement like you made.

 

[swifty_morgan]

You're not going to GET DX11 by video card alone. You realize you need W7 or Vista too, right ? Having said that, Dx11 on that card WILL dampen it's performance. The benchmark numbers are basically the same but the performance is not. A 4870 1gig would be a better choice for that. The 5770 will run much cooler though. Would be nice if you told us what the rest of your hardware was and what OS you use and what resolution you game at.

 

[jyjjy]

The benchmark numbers are basically the same but the performance is not. A 4870 1gig would be a better choice for that.

What does this even mean?

 

[falseg0d]

Since it's going to be a completely new build, I don't know what res I will be playing on. It will be on windows 7.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/289556-13-highmid-gaming-computer
Is what I have in mind right now.

 

[jyjjy]

Looking over that build it looks like most of the combos you picked out are about the best you are going to do price-wise, so good job there. The only one I would change is the HD/PSU combo.
Considering the motherboards you are considering aren't crossfire the 650w Corsair is really more than necessary; even their 400w can easily cover the system you are looking at. Also while the Caviar Black is very good the Samsung Spinpoint F3 drive is generally considered slightly faster and is $10 cheaper.
This combo is will save you $30;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.441362
OCZ is a good brand and the 550w is still overkill for your purposes.

 

[jyjjy]

Oh yeah, I also noticed you said you needed an OS and there is a combo with that card for Win7 64 if you are interested;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.437534.14-102-858

 

[falseg0d]

I chose the 650 so I could future proof upgrades, and I have heard OCZ ram is terrible, so I just continued that over to all of their products. I chose corsair because they are very reliable imo.

As for the OS I'm a student, so I can get Win7 64 pro for a lot cheaper than I could anywhere else.

 

[jyjjy]

Some do apparently and he did list wanting an OS in the thread. I do know suggesting pirating on this board is highly frowned upon though.

 

[falseg0d]

Umm download windows 7 off the internet like the rest of us. People actually pay for an OS?

Surprisingly yes =O I prefer a legit OS with a cd in case something happens.
I also prefer ninjas over pirates. kthx

 

[jyjjy]

I chose the 650 so I could future proof upgrades, and I have heard OCZ ram is terrible, so I just continued that over to all of their products. I chose corsair because they are very reliable imo.

As for the OS I'm a student, so I can get Win7 64 pro for a lot cheaper than I could anywhere else.

OCZ ram is usually good as well. Dunno where you got any of that from.
Corsair is one of the best but 650w is still overkill, especially from them and on your budget you would be better off putting the money towards other components. The only upgrade that you could make in the future that would require such a PSU is adding another HD5770 and those motherboards you are looking at don't allow for it. The 550w OCZ should be capable for crossfired HD5770s in any case. If you would prefer a 600w I think there's a combo on the HD for one for $5 more.

 

[falseg0d]

I'll look for that combo. I would rather have the 600 instead of the 550. And for only $5 more it's definitely worth it.
I probably heard that OCZ ram is bad somewhere on these forums.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.431397
found it.