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GTX465 vs GTX 285 vs 250 GTS SLI

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July 11, 2010 3:02:05 AM

Which one takes the cake? Include price\performance. Put in order then give reasons.


I'am looking to buy a card in the 200-250$. These all fit. Although GTX460 comes out on tuesday.... but will be less powerful then 465.....

Don't forget Dx11 vs Dx10.1
Discuss!!! I want to hear your opinions please!

Some information...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3745/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gf-gts25...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gf-gts25...
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July 11, 2010 3:04:21 AM

GTX285 is the most powerful followed by the GTX465.
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July 11, 2010 3:04:35 AM

And the Ability to OC is a factor as well.
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July 11, 2010 3:06:01 AM

Playing high end games, Crysis, Metro 2033..etc
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July 11, 2010 3:12:38 AM

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Palit NE5X460SF1102 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Sonic 1GB 256-bit GDDR5


I think your link is just wrong, I believe you though.
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July 11, 2010 3:19:19 AM

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I wouldn't spend the money on 250's because it's old tech but it's up to you. 250's in SLI might be faster then a 465 at stock clocks but no DX11 and with overclocking the 465 would probably be faster. Plus there's the chance to unlock the extra shaders on the 465 turning it into a 470.

IMO.. Get the 465 and be done with it.


Well I'am currently working with a 9800GT EE PNY 512MB. So I think anything is an upgrade at this point. Anyhow, I've heard that flashing the GTX465 to a 470 can brick it. Unless you know of a guide that I can follow that is able to fix it if it does brick it?
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July 11, 2010 3:25:20 AM

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You'd just have to blind flash it which means running another video card and flashing the bricked card.



Another GTX 465 or any old card to flash it back?
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July 11, 2010 3:32:46 AM

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So i just noticed there's only a 36 shader difference between the 460 and 465. Go with the 460 bro over that EVGA one.



Any card



But if I can flash it to 470 then what ?


Still 460 or the 465 flashed to 470.
OR can i over clock the 460 to a 470 clock?
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July 11, 2010 3:51:42 AM

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465 = GF100 = Potentially can be unlocked
460 = GF104 = Can't unlock into anything

I'd go 465 IF the price is right. Christ i'm flip flopping.


So....uhhhh...im confused now.


465 if i can flash it is better then 460 if i cant then i get less powerful card then 460?
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July 11, 2010 4:30:02 AM

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You'd just have to blind flash it which means running another video card and flashing the bricked card.


Actually a blind flash is exactly that, memorizing the keyboard sequence needed to flash the card back without a display, using another card is an option but not called blind flashing.
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July 11, 2010 5:43:24 AM

rolli59 said:
GTX285 is the most powerful followed by the GTX465.


not really, more like 250's>285>465 , the issue here is not the perf, its that it's pointless to buy a DX10 card when DX11 has been out for quite some time. Just like psycho said, the 2 series is old news unless the card/cards will be used strictly for old-school games.
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July 11, 2010 2:13:26 PM

OvrClkr said:
not really, more like 250's>285>465 , the issue here is not the perf, its that it's pointless to buy a DX10 card when DX11 has been out for quite some time. Just like psycho said, the 2 series is old news unless the card/cards will be used strictly for old-school games.

Missed the SLI part originally and agree on the ranking. Remember as well that a lot of people are still on win XP
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July 11, 2010 8:15:17 PM

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I forgot how to calculate memory bandwidth. Anyone know how? If you do calculate a 900mhz Base Clock with GDDR5 and a 192bit bus width. What does that come out too? 130GB/s?



effective Speed (MHz) x Memory Bus width (Bits) = Bandwidth (Mbps)


Example......

HD 3850

1800 MHz x 256-bits = 460,800 Mbps = 57.6 GBps

9800 GTX+

2200 MHz x 256-bits = 563,200 MBps = 70.4 GBps


I think....
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July 11, 2010 9:25:50 PM

mavarick22 said:
Thats the 768 model. Going performance vs performace the 192 bit and 768 doesnt go as well as 1GB and 256 bit. Or Am I wrong and missing something?


that was me who was missing something :lol: 

had too many newegg windows open and posted the wrong link, yes that palit would be a sweet option at that price. Do we not have any vendor that offers lifetime warranties? Seems like lifetime has been switched to the more expensive cards :heink: 

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July 11, 2010 10:33:29 PM

mavarick22 said:
effective Speed (MHz) x Memory Bus width (Bits) = Bandwidth (Mbps)


Example......

HD 3850

1800 MHz x 256-bits = 460,800 Mbps = 57.6 GBps

9800 GTX+

2200 MHz x 256-bits = 563,200 MBps = 70.4 GBps


I think....


If you want GigaBYTES/s then you do:
Effective speed x Memory Bus / 8 = Bandwidth
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July 11, 2010 11:56:21 PM

hmmm. I might buy that palit 460 for a friend. Does it stay cool unlike the other Fermi's?
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July 12, 2010 1:13:05 AM

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Cypress runs just as hot as fermi does.

Depends on the cooler, but just to argue:
5870 is cooler than GTX 480
5850 is cooler than GTX 470

Even if they reached the same temp they would NEVER reach the same amount of heat being dissipated, as Cypress uses much less watts than Fermi.
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July 12, 2010 1:24:03 AM

OK, that's beside the argument, as for the OP, I think it's best to wait a day or two for definitive reviews by places like Guru3d, Tom's, anand, xbitlabs.
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July 12, 2010 1:30:11 AM

I just want ATI and nVidia to start the price drops again, the 5870 and GTX 480 could really use a $50 drop, the 5850 needs to drop down to MSRP ($250), etc.

I don't think most people care about the size of the chip, if I could get the same performance into a smaller package then I would do that.
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July 12, 2010 3:06:09 AM

Guess i gtg wait for some reviews....
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July 12, 2010 5:53:03 AM

Best answer selected by mavarick22.
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