Phenom Upgrade

I'm currently running an ASUS M2N SLi-Deluxe mobo with an AMD X2 4000+ CPU.... I need the CPU upgrade so i was planning on going with a Phenom 9850 Black Edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103286 ... but im not sure if it would support it... HELP!

Yes its supported..

http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/M2N-SLI_Deluxe.html

It's seems your motherboard supports Phenom II.

No need to go with a Phenom I.

If you tell us your budget, we can suggest you the best cpu for your money.

Brad

well im kinda on a budget... so this one is still good? or should invest more

slowdown work work in phenom? wat u mean

if you play game, rendering, & any big Software your PC work too hard & very very slow time

finally someone is getting somewhere with this aznshinobi thx for making hella lot of sense.... the 9850 black edition was my best bet instead of getting the phenom II that wont prolly work that well or even at all id rather take the chance with the 9850BE and its cheap i dont think ill be doing any major Ooverclocking... but i am a graphic designer and a progamer so it should run well with 8GB of G-SkiLL, what u think

Asus CPU Support List

AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.1GHz: $75

This 4GB (2 x 2GB) kit is on the QVL List.

Anand Benchies


As long as your HT speed (1000MHz) is faster than your RAMs speed there should be minimal impact on performance.

For what it does the 9850BE will work fine, but the X3 445 Rana will perform better, run cooler and should OC nicely.

-- drop the memory ratio from 400 to 333
-- drop the HT to x4
-- lock the PCIe to 100MHz
-- drop the CPU multiplier to x15
-- raise the clock to 220MHz
-- test for stability and temps

With a little volt tweaking (and good cooling) you should be able to go higher. 15x240MHz (3.6GHz) should be the sweet spot. Much higher than that and you will have to drop the HT to x3 and you RAMs ratio to 266MHz (which will give you enough headroom for a 280MHz clock - 14x280MHz = 3.9GHz)

Well... That is kind of true and kind of not, Although there isn't any comparing the new athlons to the old phenoms, more cores is not always the case. 3 cores is the sweet spot, its not too many, but its enough to multi-task. This is also good because it is a lower power using chip than the 9850. But also it's close to your budget. They should perform about the same but the 9850 has unlocked multi the 445 doesn't. It's kind of preference as they should perform about the same in the end.

Hmm... Well... The 740 although great, I wouldn't recommend him to get mainly because he can't unlock it. But I feel stupid now. Thank you Firehawk haha.

Haha alright it's really your pick. Good luck!

that's the right idea..

i flashed my bios to the latest version so go with 9850be or triple core

" This means that the Rana will run in a new AM3 motherboard, and better yet, a new AM3+ motherboard (available next spring) which will run BD Zambezi. "

ahh, if this is to be true....
i'd love it.

You are recommending him a lower clocked CPU that has the TLB bug? Oh dear.

Haha GJ enzo.

Well the reason, is not because when they made the board they where thinking of AM3. But because AM3 has less pins than AM2+ and AM2, it allows AM3 chips to generally work on AM2+ boards.

Well it all depends, but to me, the best choice is the Rana as they all suggested (the Athlon II X3) Mainly because they run cooler and are a pretty decent CPU line overall, alot of budget builders recommend it. I actually really would pick the 445 (they don't even sell it anymore i don't think, I'm pretty sure its just the 450 now)

Anyway here's why: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/189?vs=29
Near on par performance, but the difference is the 450 will run cooler and quieter than the 9850.

NVM: they do still sell the 445.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

ight ima work with the triple core then... i hope it doesnt give me any problems working (idontthinksinceyallareallgurus^^) but thx alot for the help guys....
additionally is there anything else i should kno interms of overclocking it etc.

MASTER AZNSHINOBI I SUMMON U

You could've quoted that most people, while their budget permits, will prefer an Intel setup over an AMD setup..

Thanks a lot man.. And i'll take this opportunity to thank all those who, both directly and indirectly, have made it possible.. All the credit goes to you guys..

i got the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103644 which i thought was good

wat yall think compare to the triple core

fa sho thx ima just work with 4 gb of g skill

if your especially gaming and maybe a little multi-tasking then the quad besides being a faster chip is a logical choice.
i have a a couple of triple core set-ups one older phenom and a phenom II, not really a gamer either though.
the phenom II x3 is a solid chip, just for lesser (older like myself now ..) enthusiast.
I'm not stupid though, I'm going to add a quad in the mix soon.
enjoy your unit..

yea thx shinobi.... so this is what im working with rite now on my budget

CPU upgrade: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103644

RAM upgrade: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231122

since i already have 2 gb g skill ddr2 800 in there ill just add an additional 4gb and i should be set... thx to the community for the extra help and BIG THX to tomshardware.com for putting together such a wonderful site/forum database for us techies both noobs and veterans alike and THX SHINOBI U ROCK!

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