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August 16, 2010 7:22:16 AM

Hello, forum members :D  I'm planning on assembling a computer for the very first time, and I'd just like some feedback on the components I'm considering right now. These are the parts I've got in mind at the moment:

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Board - Asus M4A87TD
CPU - AMD 9555BE
RAM - G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 4GB
GPU - Still wavering :pfff: 
Case - Lian Li PC-K58W
PS - OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W
HDD = Samsung F3 500GB
OS - Windows 7 64-bit
Optical - LG 22X DVD Burner
Monitor - Asus MS226H
Asus PCI-E wireless adapter

The purpose of the build would be for general use (web surfing, movie watching, etc.), gaming (Borderlands, Dragon Age, Dawn of War series, Total War series), and RAW image editing. Sorry, should have stated my intentions when I originally started this thread.

I should also mention I'd like to keep the price (before rebates) as close to $1000 as I possibly can.

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August 16, 2010 7:43:19 AM

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August 16, 2010 7:47:30 AM

No, Looks Good, Im Sure You Will Have No Problems With The Componets Working Togather, Nice Choice On Going With AMD.

F*** Intel
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August 16, 2010 9:22:40 AM

I would replace the CPU with the x3 RANA 440 to have a 3rd core, it's best to avoid just two cores nowadays.

Are you aware your board is not suitable for Crossfire? a Gigabyte or Asus 790 series will allow you to use two GPUs in case you need them in future.

If playing on resolution 1920 x 1080, the 5770 will be at its limit, if you can afford it, ideally a GTX460 (1gb) or a 5850 would run things real well.

I would avoid OCZ RAM and get G Skill or Corsair. OCZ RAM is not the most dependable
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August 16, 2010 12:05:14 PM

That monitor already has HDMI (Hanns·G HH-231HPB) and the mobo chosen by the writter (Asus M4A87TD Evo) already has also a HDMI output.
NO further hardware required for that.
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August 16, 2010 12:28:18 PM

Yeah, you may want to game at 1440 x 900 with 2x FSAA if you're a speed daemon.

+ Depends what you're used to, you'll scale only as far as the machine will let you.
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August 16, 2010 5:56:19 PM

asteldian said:
I would replace the CPU with the x3 RANA 440 to have a 3rd core, it's best to avoid just two cores nowadays.

Are you aware your board is not suitable for Crossfire? a Gigabyte or Asus 790 series will allow you to use two GPUs in case you need them in future.

If playing on resolution 1920 x 1080, the 5770 will be at its limit, if you can afford it, ideally a GTX460 (1gb) or a 5850 would run things real well.

I would avoid OCZ RAM and get G Skill or Corsair. OCZ RAM is not the most dependable


Thanks for the input :D 

What I originally posted is just one of many possibilities I've come up with the past few days. The setup I've planned and like best is basically the same, except the 955BE as my CPU, GSkill 1600 for RAM (I really just wanted other opinions on the OCZ), and a PSU that has less power. I'd really like to have the XFX, but it's probably too much. That said, what's a more reasonable PSU power rating? 500-550W?

Oh - Yes, I'm aware the board isn't the best for Crossfire. I think the 5770 will be fine, and if not maybe I could get the 4xx or 58xx in a few months. Is that a good idea?
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August 16, 2010 11:48:02 PM

I would say get the best frames your $$ can buy you. Having upgraded and serviced rigs for peeps for a while now i have lost count how many white elephant expensive CF/SLI mobos peeps buy into but at the rate tech moves there is always a superior single GPU solution later thats makes CF/SLI previous gen just seem wrong/inefficient
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August 17, 2010 3:54:12 AM

So I've been fiddling with the possible setup a bit more and came up with this:


Lite On CD/DVD Burner

Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB

ASUS MS226H 21.5"

Win7 64

Lian Li PC-K58W and G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 4GB

AMD 955BE and ASUS M4A87TD

Gigabyte GTX 460 768MB and OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W


So far, that totals $952.11 for me. I still need to wireless adapter and a new mouse. A few questions:

1) Would I be missing much opting for a GTX 460 w/ 768MB vs. 1GB?
2) The only difference between the 87TD and 87TD Evo is an extra PCI-E 2.0 slot, right?

3) USB wireless adapter instead of a card: Yes or No? This build would be sitting in the room above the room with the wireless router, btw.
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August 17, 2010 3:59:41 AM

Batuchka if I lived in the states, with access to all those combos.. ;(
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August 17, 2010 7:09:33 PM

Right now I'm contemplating whether to go with a 768 MB GTX 460 or a 1GB 5830...

Gonna go read up a little and then out to lunch, but if I could get some extra input on that specifically, I'd appreciate it.
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August 17, 2010 7:14:11 PM

http://techreport.com/articles.x/19404/11 answers all. No question that the 768 460 is the superior card. If you can afford it though, jumping up to the 1GB level brings pretty significant fps gains.

Dunno if you have any interest in SLI/Crossfire, but the board you've chosen only has one pci-e 16x lane and I'm pretty sure it's not SLI compatible. Not a big deal if you know you don't want SLI/Crossfire, but could come back to bite you if you do.
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August 17, 2010 7:54:28 PM

Thanks for the article link, Neo, goes with everything else I've read on the 2 cards so far. I'm not planning on doing SLI/Crossfire down the line, so 1 lane will be fine for me.
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August 18, 2010 4:47:41 AM

+1 768 GTX 460 : HD 5830 needs a price cut to be relevant IMO
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August 18, 2010 5:05:45 AM

For an extra $30, the GTX 460 1GB is much more future proof, especially if you have no plans to SLI or Crossfire.
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August 18, 2010 5:18:08 AM

I got excited when I saw your first build, it looks as though you know the 555 is just a 955 with two locked cores. If I were to build a computer I would pick that and just unlock the cores. If you don't want to try your luck (high possibility of unlocking cores) then go for a 955, but avoid the 965. It's just an overclocked 955.

I would change the HDD to a WD black or the Samsung F3, either one is fine.

I must red flag your ram though, stay away from OCZ ram. Gskill or king are great brands. i also see Mushkin looking fine as well.

I like your choice of PSU also, I say keep it and it will give you upgrade head room.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Bigger, and it's on sale!

Last but not least stay away from the 768 460 if there is a 1gb counterpart. It would be worth it to get the latter.

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August 18, 2010 5:38:45 AM

Unlock + stable is not to be seen as a given but a bonus: some batches are 100% unable to unlock If one is looking to top up from a 768 GTX 460 then i would also take a serious look at HD 5850 as well ^^
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August 18, 2010 6:52:49 AM

falseg0d - My original post (before edit) was mainly to feel out those parts you mentioned, the RAM in particular. I made a later post (and edited the original) that's more in line with what I'm actually thinking of going with.

batuchka - The potential unlock bonus for the 555BE is a feature I neglected to notice when I read about that CPU. Once I found out about that, I knew I had to have the 955 instead. Plus, the 4 cores should work better with Photoshop, from what I've read.

The GPU is something I'm still debating, quite honestly. I honestly think I'd be fine with the 5770, even if I ended up replacing it in a year. I suppose the 5830 would be nice IF it were $20-25 less, but it's not. So I'm left to decide whether I should get the GTX 460 in a 768MB or 1GB flavor. The 1GB version would be quite a jump over the 2 Radeon cards. The 768MB wouldn't be as far ahead, but still ahead. Maybe a compromise...anyone have an opinion on the GTX 460 768MB Superclocked? I'm reading up on it as I type this, but some extra input always helps.
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August 18, 2010 5:53:40 PM

Well...I've just about made up my mind about what I want to buy. The only thing left to consider is a CPU cooler. Should I get one now or after I've put everything together to make sure I get a cooler that fits properly?
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August 18, 2010 8:43:40 PM

It's always easier to install a CPU cooler before your motherboard goes inside your case, especially if you have to install a backplate. I would get the measurements of the case you want to ensure your cooler will fit, and order everything at once.
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August 28, 2010 4:41:07 AM

Best answer selected by vixiv.
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