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August 16, 2010 2:01:46 PM

Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930 200$

Corsair XMS3 TW3X4G1333C9AG 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 RAM - - PC10666, 1333MHz, 4096MB (2x 2048MB), 240 Pin, Dual-Channel 85$

western digital caviar black 500 gb 60$

OCZ Onyx OCZSSD2-1ONX32G 2.5" 32GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 65$

SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card 135$

ASUS P6T SE LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard 195$

APEVIA MX-PLEASURE-NW-BK Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case ATX 500W dual fan w/ automatic fan speed control Power ... 100$

SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model SH-S222L LightScribe Support - OEM 18$

I was specifically wondering whether the ssd was worth while and advice on the variations of the p6t and gigabyte ud3r motherboards. I also chose a completely random case and if you had any advice it would be greatly appreciated.

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August 16, 2010 2:02:50 PM

I forgot this is also a hackintosh , so i was wondering if anyone knows if it is compatible.
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August 16, 2010 6:16:12 PM

well i would wait a while if you are considering getting an ssd, the prices should go down in a while, you have not stated what you will be using your pc for? and wrong hdd get a samsung spinpoint
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 6:19:09 PM

if your pc is for mostly gaming i would get an amd phenomII x4 955 and then upgrade the gpu to a 5850 or a gtx 460 1gb
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August 16, 2010 6:56:17 PM

don't really have a specific purpose i just want a fast pc capable of running almost anything. I would like to get a phenom x4, but intel are the only ones compatible with mac osx
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 7:56:02 PM

jastew1011 said:
don't really have a specific purpose i just want a fast pc capable of running almost anything. I would like to get a phenom x4, but intel are the only ones compatible with mac osx

Nope, there are versions that is compatible with AMD, needs more tinkering though.

Although don't get the HD, your Samsung is great.

You do need a decent PSU though, the Apevia one isnt something you'd want to use.
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August 16, 2010 8:15:27 PM

I'd get an i5-750 over the i7-930 unless you do video encoding.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 8:18:29 PM

sp12 said:
I'd get an i5-750 over the i7-930 unless you do video encoding.

But the 930 is $200.
Besides a cheaper Mobo, the 930 is a superior solution.
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August 16, 2010 9:06:10 PM

can anyone recommend a case a power supply, and is the p6t motherboard as good as the gigabyte ud3r, because the p6t has no usb 3.0.
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August 16, 2010 9:07:59 PM

i'm sticking to the intel for osx it's my first build. Would you guys recommend the ssd?
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August 16, 2010 9:14:38 PM

The i5-760 is actually a fair bit faster than the 930 in gaming, not to mention it has a 33% lower TDP (better overclocking). So it's 50$ saved on mobo as well as better game performance. Trade off being worse encoding/folding performance.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 9:19:16 PM

sp12 said:
The i5-760 is actually a fair bit faster than the 930 in gaming, not to mention it has a 33% lower TDP (better overclocking). So it's 100$ saved on mobo+ram, as well as better game performance. Trade off being worse encoding/folding performance.

Not really, they're pretty much head on and the 930 OCs just as well, a lower TDP doesn't mean a higher OC, just more power drawn.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=47

A decent 1156 board costs at least $150, and you can run dual channel on the i7 just fine also.
Besides, you get higher resale value, better SC2 performance, 6-core support and dual X16 SLI/CFX, if they mean anything.
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August 16, 2010 9:26:17 PM

It's actually 7-8 FPS ahead in Wow and DAO. I think the GA-870a-ud3p or MSI equivalent with dual x8 is fine (~130$).

Higher resale value: yes.

Better SC2 performance: no.

Look at the price on the Q9xxx series, or the 975 extreme, or the Athlon 939 FX series. Still hundreds of dollars and get smashed by current chips (except the 975, it's just still expensive).

Dual x16 crossfire can be up to 4% faster, but that still doesn't cover the gap in CPU performance in most cases (barring the fact it only shows up for SLI builds).

Edit: also, lower TDP means that at a specific operating frequency, it uses less energy and less heat. On an equivalent cooling system, the 750 will run cooler and use less power, meaning a better OC (not that either chip really gets past 4.1 on air).
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 9:31:48 PM

sp12 said:
It's actually 7-8 FPS ahead in Wow and DAO. I think the GA-870a-ud3p or MSI equivalent with dual x8 is fine (~130$).

Higher resale value: yes.

Better SC2 performance: no.

Look at the price on the Q9xxx series, or the 975 extreme, or the Athlon 939 FX series. Still hundreds of dollars and get smashed by current chips (except the 975, it's just still expensive).

Dual x16 crossfire can be up to 4% faster, but that still doesn't cover the gap in CPU performance in most cases (barring the fact it only shows up for SLI builds).

The GA-870a-ud3p is an AMD board.. :heink: 

For SC2 here:

Clocked similarly, the i7 leads by 6fps.

For only $40 more, I think the 930 is a good deal.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 9:33:01 PM

jastew1011 said:
can anyone recommend a case a power supply, and is the p6t motherboard as good as the gigabyte ud3r, because the p6t has no usb 3.0.

If you want USB3.0 then get the UD3, if not, stick with it, its a great board.

For the Case+PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or for cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
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August 16, 2010 9:45:48 PM

From that review:

The extra threads of the Core i7 920 processor are no advantage when compared to the Core i5 750 in this game, but the additional memory capacity and bandwidth is.

The advantage comes from the memory, which he plans to use in dual channel anyway. Is the i7-930 40$+70$ better? (CPU+Mobo cost). No. It's worse in just about every game benchmark, and the advantage is because of memory, not the CPU.
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August 16, 2010 9:46:37 PM

thanks, again is the ssd worth it, and should i get more than 32 gb?
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August 16, 2010 9:52:03 PM

SSD is an awesome upgrde, definitely the single biggest upgrade you can do.

I'd get the 50GB corsair Force/Agility2/Vertex2.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 9:52:08 PM

sp12 said:
From that review:

The extra threads of the Core i7 920 processor are no advantage when compared to the Core i5 750 in this game, but the additional memory capacity and bandwidth is.

The advantage comes from the memory, which he plans to use in dual channel anyway. Is the i7-930 40$+70$ better? (CPU+Mobo cost). No. It's worse in just about every game benchmark, and the advantage is because of memory, not the CPU.

He has the possibility of tri-channel however, just add an identical stick.
Though I did over look that point on SC2, my bad.

Also, where do you find a $160 750 anyways?
Besides, were not sure what he does other than gaming.

On the SSD, 32GB for booting Windows and some essential programs is enough, but if you plan to install games on it, id suggest you go up to at least 60GB.
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August 16, 2010 9:58:07 PM

Microcenter, same place as the 200$ i7.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 10:03:12 PM

sp12 said:
Microcenter, same place as the 200$ i7.

They have that? Then never-mind, go nuts with the 750.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 10:09:40 PM

Where did he find a $200 i7-930? That's what I want to know. I've been looking...
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August 16, 2010 10:10:41 PM

Microcenter, same place as the 160$ i5.

Edit: Ninjas.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 16, 2010 10:13:40 PM

sp12 said:
Microcenter, same place as the 160$ i5.

Edit: Ninjas.



That barely counts, the closest to me is Santa Clara and I would rather just pay the extra $60 or so to have it shipped to me from someone else. Nice deal though.
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August 16, 2010 10:29:25 PM

so is it worth it for the extra 40$?
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August 16, 2010 10:32:51 PM

they also have unbelievable amd sales if you get pretty much any amd processor you can get one of four motherboards for essentially free.
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August 16, 2010 10:42:06 PM

Depending on the details, that could be interesting.

If you don't do video encoding or folding, then no it's not worth the 40$.
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August 16, 2010 10:42:06 PM

newegg has a ud3r combo with that antec case for 319 is that worth it instead of the asus
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August 16, 2010 10:52:01 PM

two things what motherboard should i get for the i5 and do i need extra fans if i'm not overclocking?
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August 16, 2010 11:01:54 PM

I've been reading that the i5-750 doesn't have hyper-threading doesn't that make it significantly worse?
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August 16, 2010 11:03:31 PM

Not in games. In fact, in some games disabling HT gives better performance. HT only matters for encoding/folding applications.
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August 16, 2010 11:37:51 PM

oh and do i need extra fans if i am not overclocking anything?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 17, 2010 2:06:58 PM

1 thing that you need to know is if you get the lga 1156 cpu you will not have much of an upgrade path, as the lga 1156 socket is dead now no more cpus are coming out on that socket, but if you get an i7 930 in a few years you could upgrade to a 980 extreme or something as it will be cheaper, if you go for amd your upgrade path is good because (i think im not 100% sure) that socket am3 will support the new amd cpus, so its all up to you make your choice
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August 17, 2010 8:23:52 PM

Actually, just take a second and look at the prices on last gen's EE processor, the QX9770. It's almost 2000$ now. Look at 3 generations ago, the AMD athlon FX series. Hundreds of dollars and it gets smashed by an Athlon 2 x2 for 50$.

There's no way you'll be able to upgrade to a hexacore for any reasonable amount of money.
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August 18, 2010 1:56:47 AM

i'm going with the i7 it's a little bit more money, but i will be able to get more ram and i have heard good things about the hyper-threading.
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August 18, 2010 2:26:33 AM

jastew1011 said:
i'm going with the i7 it's a little bit more money, but i will be able to get more ram and i have heard good things about the hyper-threading.


2 points -- do you need more than 8GB of ram, but not more than 12?

Also, where have you heard good things about hyperthreading from?
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August 18, 2010 2:33:48 AM

anyways nevermind, but do you know is the sapphire radeon hd 5770 is compatible with hackintosh?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 18, 2010 2:36:56 AM

jastew1011 said:
anyways nevermind, but do you know is the sapphire radeon hd 5770 is compatible with hackintosh?

The new iMac uses a HD5750, so I think you'll be fine.
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August 18, 2010 2:39:04 AM

After all this I am left with this configuration.



Antec Nine Hundred + EA650 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 650W Power Supply



ASUS P6T SE LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

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August 18, 2010 2:39:56 AM



Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930

CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1333C9DHX



OCZ Onyx OCZSSD2-1ONX32G 2.5" 32GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
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August 18, 2010 2:40:18 AM

other than the i7 is this good and is it hackintosh capable?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 20, 2010 5:10:59 PM

good hdd, nice case
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