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July 13, 2010 1:52:48 AM

I currently have 2 Radeon HD 5770s with EK-Waterblocks... well, water blocks on them. Can anyone give me an appraisal on them? I'm thinking of getting the GTX 460s as replacements.

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July 13, 2010 10:33:52 AM

460 is better, but not much, since you have 2xHD5770 then i would say stay with your current setup, HD5770 on CF is a great performer... :) 
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July 13, 2010 3:24:59 PM



Considering the benches in that article and the price difference in cards (the 5770 is about $60 cheaper then the 460 for the cheapest cards on newegg) it's not worth the upgrade.
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July 13, 2010 4:13:08 PM

I don't know if I would upgrade two water blocked cards either, but the gtx 460@800mhz which some models are coming at, can put out more fps in some games than crossfire 5770's. http://www.techspot.com/review/299-palit-inno3d-geforce...
What are those two cards worth , used, waterblocked. Start at 300.00 for the pair ? You lose what you invested in the waterblock(cost+more).



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July 15, 2010 3:41:03 AM

So I've got one appraisal for $300? Anyone else want to help out a bit? I'd get a better idea of what to sell this for if I got multiple opinions.
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July 15, 2010 5:15:39 AM

I would say $350 for the both of them. The Waterblock alone is $70-$80, and each card is about $160. So you end up with a new purchase cost of $450. Take off 25% for a used sales reduction and you get about $350.
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July 15, 2010 9:33:24 AM

Only some games does the GTX460 beat the 5770 XFire (games heavily favouring Nvidia). In general a GTX460 is sat between a 5830 and a 5850 (if it were ATI it would be abelled a 5840), both of which are weaker than 5770 XFire.

However, if the plan is to get two 460s then they will perform better because as mentioned before, the 460 is equivalent to 5840s which would be better than 5770s.

However, I personally would not upgrade, the 5770s should be more than enough for your games, and if they are not, I would want a bigger upgrade than 460s
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July 15, 2010 10:15:59 AM

@notty22 i don't think the scale you posted there is correct.

At full HD resolution this is what i got and it was made on a 2 min interval and in one of the most demanding places:

Call of Duty(6) Modern Warfare 2 max settings 1920x1080 4xAA
Frames: min 40, max 173, avg 62.224
Frames with OC: min 40, max 180, avg 66.119

I do not think that from Full HD resolution to 1920x1200 is that big of a difference:) .

Here is the full review i made by myself: http://frozentec.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic...

@NGen i would keep the cards as they are. If you really want something new then i say buy something better then the gtx460 as @asteldian said.
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July 15, 2010 5:16:23 PM

Radeon 5770 in CF = ~Radeon 5850.
GTX 460 in SLI > Radeon 5870.

That's what I'm getting at, and that's why I want to get the 460s. In one Crysis Warhead benchmark they got almost 20FPS more than about what my cards in CF got. 20FPS for about the same price of the card (I say about the same price since I bought one of mine from Best Buy... >.>) is as good a deal as I'm going to get, and the price of those two cards are pretty much my max right now.
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July 15, 2010 5:37:49 PM

If your gonna upgrade I don't think going from dual 5770's to GTX 460's is worth the hassle.
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July 15, 2010 5:40:24 PM

Please read my comments, 5770s in CF to GTX 460s in SLI isn't a minor upgrade. As for hassle, it's less than an hour of combined work. I think I'll survive.
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July 15, 2010 5:41:50 PM

It's a minor upgrade.

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July 15, 2010 5:43:10 PM

JESUS CHRIST. READ MY OTHER POSTS. Not going from Dual 5770s to single GTX 460, I'm going from 5770s to GTX 460 in SLI. Look at those benchmarks and tell me that it's a minor upgrade.
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July 15, 2010 5:45:15 PM

It seems like you are pretty convinced, it is a minor upgrade!
If we thought you were going from 2 5770's to 1 GTX 460 that wouldn't even be an upgrade!
Going from dual 5770's to dual 5850's/GTX 470's is what I would call a worthwhile upgrade.

It depends on your opinions and what games you play, I suggest looking at the reviews, looking at the performance increase in YOUR games, looking at the cost and seeing if it's worth it.
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July 15, 2010 5:47:05 PM

I'm pretty sure Dual GTX 460s surpassed Dual GTX 470s in some benchmarks. Let me look at those benchmarks again and I'll post the charts if I was right.

EDIT: Must've been thinking of the 465s, which everyone knows is worse than the 460 anyways. Still, these benchmarks make it worth-while:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...

And yes, currently that review is all I'm going off of. I haven't found any other reviews that cover the card in SLI, it is generally only covered on its own.
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July 15, 2010 5:51:39 PM

Dual GTX 460's come pretty close in a few games, but GTX 460's do not match GTX 470's.
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July 15, 2010 5:53:36 PM

Yeah, edited my post. Feel free to re-read it.

Thing is I have a 750W PSU and I'm 100% sure that I couldn't put dual GTX 470s on that.
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July 15, 2010 5:59:31 PM

I've seen some benches like anandtech's review where the cards perform as well as CF 5850s even CF 5870s in one or two benchs. Pretty impressive. I don't know that I'd bother going from CF5770 to SLI460... but yeah it should perform better.
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July 15, 2010 6:17:19 PM

NGen said:
I'm pretty sure Dual GTX 460s surpassed Dual GTX 470s in some benchmarks. Let me look at those benchmarks again and I'll post the charts if I was right.

EDIT: Must've been thinking of the 465s, which everyone knows is worse than the 460 anyways. Still, these benchmarks make it worth-while:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...

And yes, currently that review is all I'm going off of. I haven't found any other reviews that cover the card in SLI, it is generally only covered on its own.


You should probably look at these ones where they barely beat or lose to crossfired 5830's too. Let me help you.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...

Loses at high resolution because of lacking memory - http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...

Draws and loses at high resolution in an nVidia branded title - http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...


Yeah, it's a minor upgrade but if you selectively choose benchmarks while ignoring the rest, sure it looks a lot better than it is.
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July 15, 2010 6:21:05 PM

The 768MB version often loses to a 5830 which is not that much better than a 5770.
I would strongly suggest using the 1GB ones if you decide to upgrade to GTX 460's.
The 768MB version runs out of frame buffer at higher resolution and often fails catastrophically.
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July 15, 2010 6:28:30 PM

In reviews where they used gtx 460 1g super clocked models, lets say 760mhz (evga,msi), those are the ones where they rivaled 5850/5870 crossfire #'s. Water cooled, there is no reason, both cards could not run at 800. Heck if he buys the Sonic Platinum, or Galaxy SOC, they will run at 800mhz stock. At that speed they are two/three tiers faster than the #'s from 675mhz models.
At 930mhz which some sites had them clocked to, the sli combo would rival any cards (STOCK) on the market.
The 5770 crossfire is no slouch, but its min frame rates and in some games with poorer CF support, the added power would be noticeable.
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July 15, 2010 11:09:42 PM

I play at 1600x900 resolution, and I was planning on getting the 1GB versions anyways.

From what I've gathered $300-350 should be the approximate value of these cards. I'll drop this now.
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July 15, 2010 11:58:32 PM

I don't understand what your trying to gain going from 2x5770's to 2xGTX 460's at 1600x900.
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