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July 13, 2010 2:24:27 AM

I like the 5830's value.. at the $200 price point. Correct me if I'm wrong but after reading reviews it seems like the 5830 isn't exactly an... "optimized" card. It uses the same GPU architecture as the 5870, but it's simply been disabled, so it causes a slight increase in power usage in proportion to pixel pushing power... right? Well, anyways, I'm not going to get a 5850 cause that's too much. And I don't want to settle for a 5770. So the 5830 fits the bill. Now I just saw these two fine cards for the cheap on the egg. Which do you think you would opt for? The Sapphire is 20 bucks cheaper but I sacrifice the opportunity for high OC'ing capabilities http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... . Where as the MSI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , goes for a little bit more, but I probably would get alot more bang for the buck. Is this a wise time to buy a 5830? Should I wait or buy now?

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July 13, 2010 2:35:53 AM

AMDnoob said:
I like the 5830's value.. at the $200 price point. Correct me if I'm wrong but after reading reviews it seems like the 5830 isn't exactly an... "optimized" card. It uses the same GPU architecture as the 5870, but it's simply been disabled, so it causes a slight increase in power usage in proportion to pixel pushing power... right? Well, anyways, I'm not going to get a 5850 cause that's too much. And I don't want to settle for a 5770. So the 5830 fits the bill. Now I just saw these two fine cards for the cheap on the egg. Which do you think you would opt for? The Sapphire is 20 bucks cheaper but I sacrifice the opportunity for high OC'ing capabilities http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... . Where as the MSI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , goes for a little bit more, but I probably would get alot more bang for the buck. Is this a wise time to buy a 5830? Should I wait or buy now?

Why not the Gigabyte version?
It's cheap and you can overclock it more. A friend of mine has a 5870, same brand, same cooler and he¡s in love with it, its SUPER COLD and it let him overclock a lot.
Check it out here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
:D 
July 13, 2010 2:42:42 AM

The 5830 is a cut down version of the 5850. The reason why it uses more power is because since the 5830 is cut from a lot of features the 5850 has, the 5830s clocks where raised using more power. The 5830 is a great card, but have you considered the gtx 460? The gtx 460 gets 1-5fps faster in all games but when games with pysx come in the gtx 460 gets like 15-30fps more than the 5830!! At the same price point the gtx 460 is a much better buy. The gtx 460 is from nvidia so you will get rock solid drivers so no wavy blue lines many people have with the 57xx and 58xx incuding the 5830... ITs you choice from here. either cards are great. the only reason to choose the 5830 is because some have rebates as of July 12 becuase the release of the gtx 460 making the 5830 a cheaper choice couting the rebate.

If you want the best power/performance and be prepared for the future choose the gtx 460!!!
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July 13, 2010 2:45:20 AM

neonzion said:
The 5830 is a cut down version of the 5850. The reason why it uses more power is because since the 5830 is cut from a lot of features the 5850 has, the 5830s clocks where raised using more power. The 5830 is a great card, but have you considered the gtx 460? The gtx 460 gets 1-5fps faster in all games but when games with pysx come in the gtx 460 gets like 15-30fps more than the 5830!! At the same price point the gtx 460 is a much better buy. The gtx 460 is from nvidia so you will get rock solid drivers so no wavy blue lines many people have with the 57xx and 58xx incuding the 5830... ITs you choice from here. either cards are great. the only reason to choose the 5830 is because some have rebates as of July 12 becuase the release of the gtx 460 making the 5830 a cheaper choice couting the rebate.

If you want the best power/performance and be prepared for the future choose the gtx 460!!!

The gtx 460 Sonic Platinum is the best among all :D 
July 13, 2010 10:16:25 AM

Yup, GTX 460 is a good card and also cheap... :) 

What about the rest of your specs? monitor?
July 13, 2010 12:07:59 PM

I must say I agree with neonzion ,very good advise .
July 13, 2010 4:59:50 PM

=) also the only time the 5830 passed the gtx 460 768mb was when it was 1920x1200 with 16aa, the 5830 passed the it by .6fps hahahaha, the gtx 460 1gb still beat the 5830 in everything but its $20-$30 more. So the best option is the gtx 460 since it owns the 5830 in 98.9% of times
July 13, 2010 5:18:29 PM

5830 should only cost $170 if it wants to sell now that the GTX 460 is out. From the reviews I've read (tomshardware, hardwarecanucks, anandtech) the GTX 460 almost always beats the 5830, and at 4xAA settings it creeps up on the 5850 even, at times it's able to out perform the 5850. Generally at highest resolution the 5850 was better, but in certain games the 460 kept up. Overally, GTX 460 is an amazing card and can overclock big time. It's on a new GPU, the GF104 so it's very optimized (the 470 and 480 are on GF100 GPUs).

For $230 the 1gb GTX 460 is a wicked card.
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