Q8400 Bottleneck

[karthik_11]

if i pair a nvidia gtx 480 and a intel core 2 quad q8400 will there be a bottleneck at higher resolutions?

 

[raiyus13]

nope......no games till now have that capacity....

your good to go...

 

[Bluescreendeath]

If your Q8200 is at stock, yes there will be a bottleneck. Luckily, the Q8400 is very overclockable. Even if you overclock it, you'll still experience some bottlenecks since dual GTX480s are very powerful.

Make sure you have a 850-1000watt PSU in order to run two GTX480s.

But overall, I suggest just 1 GTX480s. (for two, you'll need something like an i7 quad or a PII x6).

 

[sabot00]

He is just getting 1 GTX 480, he means pairing the GTX 480 with the Q8400.
There will be a bottleneck depending on the game, but overall should be plenty.

 

[mactronix]

There might be a slight restriction but at higher resolutios there is less chance of this happening anyway. Its nothing your going to notice anyway.

Mactronix

 

[karthik_11]

How about gtx480 with E7500?

 

[raiyus13]

An E7500 with a gtx 480 :lol: :lol: :lol: lol....

 

[IROC_69]

i have q8400

i thought i will experience bottleneck

this forum helped me too

 

[karthik_11]

How about gtx460 with q8400?

 

[raiyus13]

How about gtx460 with q8400?

man use your brains a bit before posting...., if the gtx 480 dosent bottelnecks with q8400 then how come the gtx 460??

 

[jyjjy]

An E7500 with a gtx 480 :lol: :lol: :lol: lol....

I don't see what is so funny. On good air cooling that processor can get close to 4ghz. Most games still don't effectively use more than 2 cores.

 

[raiyus13]

I don't see what is so funny. On good air cooling that processor can get close to 4ghz. Most games still don't effectively use more than 2 cores.

Im sorry ........but i just can't hold my laughter after seeing the weird combination of pairing a e7500 with a gtx480........btw...i had the c2d e7500 before with a gtx 260 but sorry to say i hardly get good fps in demanding games of this age.....the e8xxx series could cetainly be more than enough but not certainly the e7500 (keeping OC aside as not all are comfortable with it!)........

 

[jyjjy]

You do know the E8xxx processors only differ from the E7000 chips in that they have more L2 cache right? They use the exact same core.
How does more L2 cache turn something you laugh at into "certainly more than enough"?

 

[raiyus13]

You do know the E8xxx processors only differ from the E7000 chips in that they have more L2 cache right? They use the exact same core.
How does more L2 cache turn something you laugh at into "certainly more than enough"?

i certainly disagree from your point... yes it is true that the e7xxx has 3mb l2 where the e8xxx has 6mb l2 (double) but this is not all.....there lots of other differences that makes a huge difference in performance...

1). e7xxx has 3mb l2 where the e8xxx has 6mb l2 (as you said).

2). e7xxx runs on 1066 MHz fsb where the 8xxx runs on 1333 Mhz fsb.

3). no of Processing Die Transistors in e7xxx is 228 million where as it is 410 million in e8xxx.

4). and thats not all the die size also differ from each other ,the e8xxx has 107 mm where it is 82 mm in e7xxx which tells it has a lot of difference....

Now i hope that i am able to clear out the mis-conception from you and if not there is nothing more i can do about it........

and it is clear that it is not only the L2 that i laughed for.......

 

[jyjjy]

So basically you looked them up on the Intel site and pointed out any difference despite not knowing what they mean or if they actually contradict what I said...
Let me repeat, they use the exact same wolfdale processor core. The only notable difference when it comes to performance is the amount of L2 cache. Yes, they do have a different default front side bus(and different multipliers.) This is relevant during the process of overclocking but if anything the lower front side bus and higher multiplier allows for easier overclocking.

 

[raiyus13]

my appologies, but it is the only place from where people get to know about intel proccesors but i think you forgot to do this basic step before posting the only difference of L2........any way i think you want to say that transistors dont make any difference in proccesing prerformance, then i must admit you must be very week in electronics.......

 

[karthik_11]

The difference between e7xxx and e8xxx definitely results in more performance. Just check it here and see. how about

e7500 and q8400.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Aside that i have a doubt. while browsing i came upon green power edition of xfx cards. for eg instead of 64 shaders

it has 48 shaders. does this affect the cards performance. by how much. The 9600 gt will be great for 1440*900 gaming

resolution for recent games. will the green power edition handle it.

 

[raiyus13]

The difference between e7xxx and e8xxx definitely results in more performance. Just check it here and see. how about

e7500 and q8400.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Aside that i have a doubt. while browsing i came upon green power edition of xfx cards. for eg instead of 64 shaders

it has 48 shaders. does this affect the cards performance. by how much. The 9600 gt will be great for 1440*900 gaming

resolution for recent games. will the green power edition handle it.

sorry but you checked the q8400 check the e8500 and the e7500 and see their difference............

yes shaders will affect,but the difference is not noticable....the 9600 will be good at mid settings

but a gts 250 or a hd 4850 will be enough....

 

[jyjjy]

The product page for the processor certainly is not the only way to learn about these chips and assuming other people are ignorant because you don't understand what the things list on that page actually mean is a mistake.

 

[raiyus13]

The product page for the processor certainly is not the only way to learn about these chips and assuming other people are ignorant because you don't understand what the things list on that page actually mean is a mistake.

im extremly sorry for being rude.......

but what do you mean?

 

[jyjjy]

The difference between e7xxx and e8xxx definitely results in more performance. Just check it here and see. how about

e7500 and q8400.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Aside that i have a doubt. while browsing i came upon green power edition of xfx cards. for eg instead of 64 shaders

it has 48 shaders. does this affect the cards performance. by how much. The 9600 gt will be great for 1440*900 gaming

resolution for recent games. will the green power edition handle it.

Yes, the difference in performance is due to the different cache sizes. Here is the actual comparison page between those 2 processors;
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/87?vs=56
As you can see the average difference in performance is approximately 10%.

 

[jyjjy]

im extremly sorry for being rude.......

but what do you mean?

What I mean is that you are doing the most basic research possible and then assuming you know more than the person you are talking to.

 

[jyjjy]

while browsing i came upon green power edition of xfx cards. for eg instead of 64 shaders

it has 48 shaders. does this affect the cards performance. by how much. The 9600 gt will be great for 1440*900 gaming

resolution for recent games. will the green power edition handle it.

All 9600GTs have 64 shader cores. Are you sure you aren't looking at a 9600GSO? They come in two varieties, one with 96 cores and the other with 48 cores.

 

[raiyus13]

What I mean is that you are doing the most basic research possible and then assuming you know more than the person you are talking to.

yes, i admit you are more experienced because im only 16......but that dosent mean that im wrong or the transistor amount they mentioned is wrong.

 

[mactronix]

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