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July 13, 2010 5:02:48 PM

Hello All,

I am thinking of upgrading from a 512Mb DDR 3 GT240 as its not fast enough for what I want. I play recent games (like Stalker, Rail Simulator/Railwork, Counter Strike Source etc). I also watch HD video.

I am thinking of spending around £100 ($150) and am thinking of either a GTS250, HD5750 or a HD5770. I know the 5770 will be faster than the 5750 but is it worth the £20 ($30) difference in price? And how does the GTS250 compete against them as I really find Nvidia's naming scheme quite confusing at the best of times.

My PC specs are as follows:
Pentium Dual Core E6700 3.2GHz
Gigabye GA-P43-ES3G
OCZ StealthXtreme 500w PSU (18A on dual 12v rails, 36A in total).

Any opinions or views appreciated.

Craig

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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 5:14:39 PM

The 5750 and 5770 perform close enough to each other that if the budget is really tight, a 5750 is still a great choice, but finding an extra 20 bucks for the 5770 will be worth it. The GTS 250 doesn't really compare, it is a generation or two behind, depending on who you talk to it may even be considered 3-4 generations behind the 5770, due to NV's renaming strategy.

Nvidia has really convoluted naming schemes, and one needs to do a lot of research to understand what they are buying if they are not up to date on the GPU market.
July 13, 2010 5:25:32 PM

The jump from a GT240 to GT250 isn't really worth it, given that its a generation or so behind and its just a renamed Geforce 9800 GTX+ with a bit less power draw. Like said above, if you have that extra cash, go for the 5770.
a c 124 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 5:26:47 PM

Yeah isn't the GTS 250 a shrunk down 9800GT? Something along those lines anyway.

5770 is definitely the best choice. I'd say definitely worth it over the 5750 unless you just really need to budget.
July 13, 2010 5:28:13 PM

Hi,

Thanks for that, just the 5750 is £92 and the 5770 is £120?
Whats the equivelent in Nvidia then?

Cheers

Craig
a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 5:29:47 PM

For that price, nothing really. If you can find a GTX 260 on sale, maybe, but in general, ATI owns the mainstream market at the moment, and NV doesn't really have anything to compete as far as price/performance goes.
July 13, 2010 5:33:50 PM

^ Agreed!.....The 5770 is equivalent to the GT260. and the 5750 is more to the GT250
July 13, 2010 9:26:44 PM

Would it be worth waiting for the next mid range Nvidia cards to come out then?

I have no preference really to Nvidia or ATi, just my last 2 cards have been Nvidia.
a c 124 U Graphics card
July 14, 2010 2:44:08 PM

icraig said:
Would it be worth waiting for the next mid range Nvidia cards to come out then?

I have no preference really to Nvidia or ATi, just my last 2 cards have been Nvidia.


If you're not in a hurry, there should be some new cards coming out around christmas or thereabouts, so I hear. But there hasn't been any real hard facts or announcements so that might be gibberish. Hard to suggest waiting for something that at this point may or may not happen.
a c 273 U Graphics card
July 14, 2010 3:00:09 PM

wolfram23 said:
Yeah isn't the GTS 250 a shrunk down 9800GT? Something along those lines anyway.

No, its a 9800GTX+ which is a 55nm version of the 9800GTX which is a renamed 8800GTS 512. The 9800GT is an 8800GT with "Hybrid Power" and some of them have a 55nm GPU as well but the shader count is what separates the GT and GTS/GTX's as it's 112 and 128 respectively.
a b U Graphics card
July 14, 2010 3:28:10 PM

wolfram23 said:
If you're not in a hurry, there should be some new cards coming out around christmas or thereabouts, so I hear. But there hasn't been any real hard facts or announcements so that might be gibberish. Hard to suggest waiting for something that at this point may or may not happen.


there are alot of different rumours out there but the one that keeps cropping up is that the gts455/450 will be released in august and that the gt440 will be released in september for under $100. other rumours say that they might be released in 2011 but that cant be true as nvidia are already 6 months behind ati as it is.
a c 124 U Graphics card
July 14, 2010 4:02:04 PM

infernox_01 said:
there are alot of different rumours out there but the one that keeps cropping up is that the gts455/450 will be released in august and that the gt440 will be released in september for under $100. other rumours say that they might be released in 2011 but that cant be true as nvidia are already 6 months behind ati as it is.


Yeah, I'd be a bit suprised if we don't see some of those cards out in the next few months.

But, on ATI's side of things, there's rumors that the 6xxx series will be coming out around the end of the year as well, or possibly something like a 5890.

It'll be very interesting to see what happens.
July 14, 2010 4:18:01 PM

Cheers guys for the responses.

I think I've decided to go with ATi and am still stuck between the 5750 and 5770.

Although a couple of my games use the Phsyx engine, so I am concerned with there performance with them. Do you think it'd matter?
a b U Graphics card
July 14, 2010 4:26:17 PM

icraig said:
Cheers guys for the responses.

I think I've decided to go with ATi and am still stuck between the 5750 and 5770.

Although a couple of my games use the Phsyx engine, so I am concerned with there performance with them. Do you think it'd matter?


You can set the actual PhysX level of effect in games that support GPU accelerated PhysX, and can turn it off completely. If on, it will run off the CPU, which can destroy frame rate and playability. There is a lot of talk about this recently, and this may change in the future when PhysX moves to an instruction set that wasn't abandoned by the industry 6 years ago, after several decades of use (currently x87, an SSE variant in the future, hopefully).
a b U Graphics card
July 14, 2010 7:18:53 PM

wolfram23 said:
Yeah, I'd be a bit suprised if we don't see some of those cards out in the next few months.

But, on ATI's side of things, there's rumors that the 6xxx series will be coming out around the end of the year as well, or possibly something like a 5890.

It'll be very interesting to see what happens.


yeh, I've heard that as well. they call them the 'southern island' cards, which could mean anything. there are still some gaps in their current line-up. there are also 'northern island' cards which they say could be the 7xxx series.
July 14, 2010 7:44:27 PM

Right so I can run a 5750/5770 without a bottleneck on my CPU and I think my PSU is fine isn't it?
a b U Graphics card
July 14, 2010 7:48:56 PM

Your PSU is fine. A 5770 shouldn't be too limited much by a 3.2ghz E6700, in fact, it should be a great match.
July 15, 2010 11:41:55 AM

Hi Guys,

I've just been looking at a few online stores and noticed I can get a GTX460 for £150. I really want the highest possible upgrade to my PC, so I don't have to bother upgrading again till Windows 8 comes out in a few years time.

If I went to for the GTX460 would there be any issues with my PSU or CPU? Whats the minimum wattage/ampage one requires? Also with me only having a Pentium Dual Core E6700 is it going to cause performance issues or will they be negligable if any?

Thanks

Craig
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