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July 13, 2010 6:08:06 PM

I have a XPS 410
Motherboard : DXP061
RAM: 2GIG DDR3
Vista
And right now i have a nvidia geforce 7300

right now i can play codmw2 at 800x600 and the graphics are just so bad. im looking for a card thats around 100 - 200$ that will allow me to play codmw2, assassins creed, or maybe even crysis at mid - high settings.


thanks
July 13, 2010 6:18:51 PM

its an intel processor 2? not sure if thats what you mean. im pretty my motherboard is pcie compatible but do you know?
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a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 6:21:53 PM

Which intel processor?
If the processor is not powerful enough then getting a very good graphics card would be a waste.
July 13, 2010 6:23:50 PM

how do i find out which processor i have? sorry for such big fail. :( 


*nvm Intel Core Processor 2 6420 2.13Ghz 2.13 Ghz.
July 13, 2010 6:32:44 PM

Intel Core 2 Duo Cpu E6420
July 13, 2010 6:46:37 PM

haha yea thats exactly my computer.
July 13, 2010 6:49:26 PM

Hmmm, I'm not sure how well Dell PSU's are, but it only has 375watts and the video card above says it requires 400watts.
July 13, 2010 6:51:05 PM

if i were you id look to get 2 more gigs of ram, a better processor, and the get your video card.. youd just be wasting your money on getting a video card.. with your ram and processor bottlenecking you you wouldnt see that much more improvement. soo... 2 more gigs of ram.. a processor then a video card..
July 13, 2010 6:53:28 PM

good eye.. most ppl wouldnt have caught that..i didnt. :p 
July 13, 2010 6:53:35 PM

well i have another computer that i can take the ram out of so that makes 4 gigs ddr 3. i got ram covered, but what would be a good graphics card for my situation or processor. all i want to be able to play is assassins creed 2, codmw2,mass effect, or bioshock at a mid - high setting.
July 13, 2010 7:02:31 PM

in your other computer what kind of power supply is in there.. you may be able to switch those out too.. cause so far your looking at a video card, processor, and a new power supply.
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 7:08:43 PM

jesman1985 said:
if i were you id look to get 2 more gigs of ram, a better processor, and the get your video card.. youd just be wasting your money on getting a video card.. with your ram and processor bottlenecking you you wouldnt see that much more improvement. soo... 2 more gigs of ram.. a processor then a video card..

Despite the processor not being ideal for current games he has a 7300 at the moment and would certainly see a massive improvement with a better card like the HD5670 sabot recommended.
Considering you said you have up to $200 to spend adding another 2 gigs of ram is a good call.
From what I'm seeing your system can handle better processors, up to the Q6600. It would be a good upgrade if you want your system to last a few more years.
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 7:10:45 PM

Dell PSUs are actually quite good and rated for continuous usage rather than peak like most. The 375w can easily handle an HD5670 or even up to an HD5770.
July 13, 2010 7:13:39 PM

jyjjy said:
Dell PSUs are actually quite good and rated for continuous usage rather than peak like most. The 375w can easily handle an HD5670 or even up to an HD5770.


good.. so thats another down.. only thing thats left is a processor.. i think the 5670 you choose earlier is a pretty good choice considering his budget..
July 13, 2010 7:22:39 PM

alright awesome. so with the ati 5670 ill be able to run assassins creed 2, or codmw2?
even without the change in processors?
July 13, 2010 7:23:11 PM

$236.98 for an upgraded video card and an upgraded processor.. if $200.00 is your very maximum amount let me know and i can shop around a little more..
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 7:23:15 PM

jesman1985 said:
good.. so thats another down.. only thing thats left is a processor.. i think the 5670 you choose earlier is a pretty good choice considering his budget..

Well you are piling a huge amount of expense on him right now. His processor isn't good but it's not so bad it needs to be upgraded immediately if he can't afford it. Card + ram for now should be a good start and well within his stated budget.
I would probably choose this HD5670 myself;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The card sabot linked is a good choice as well and has a better cooler but this one is $4 less and has a $15 rebate on top of that.
July 13, 2010 7:25:00 PM

yetbutno said:
alright awesome. so with the ati 5670 ill be able to run assassins creed 2, or codmw2?
even without the change in processors?


nooo .. please upgrade your processor.. you wont be able to use the new video card to its maximum potential without upgrading your processor..
July 13, 2010 7:27:49 PM

i have ram down already, and ill probably get a processor soon, but the first thing i want to fix is my low fps on alot of games. with the new card do u think it'll be possible to play codmw2 or assassins creed at like 30 - 40 fps at decent settings?
July 13, 2010 7:29:18 PM

jyjjy said:
Well you are piling a huge amount of expense on him right now. His processor isn't good but it's not so bad it needs to be upgraded immediately if he can't afford it. Card + ram for now should be a good start and well within his stated budget.
I would probably choose this HD5670 myself;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The card sabot linked is a good choice as well and has a better cooler but this one is $4 less and has a $15 rebate on top of that.


good find on the video card.. but i have to strongly disagree on the processor.. he would see so much more of an improvement if he would upgrade his processor.. it'd be better to save up 36 more dollars and get what hes looking for than to spend money on a video card that would end up being bottle necked in the first place..
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 7:29:25 PM

yetbutno said:
with the new card do u think it'll be possible to play codmw2 or assassins creed at like 30 - 40 fps at decent settings?

I think it should be able to handle that.
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 7:33:49 PM

BTW even if he could use a Wolfdale core the E7600 is a rather poor value. It is exactly the same processor as the E6600 the only difference being 1mb of L2 cache. That's nowhere near worth an extra $51
July 13, 2010 7:33:51 PM

thanks, also the bottlenecked card would just not last aslong as an unbottlenecked card correct?
July 13, 2010 7:39:22 PM

im honestly not seeing why he wouldnt be able to use this processor..its a LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor.. the same chipset and wattage as the processor he has now.. you may be right tho.. but im not catching it.. and the processor he has now would most definitely bottleneck him.. i just dont see a point in upgrading a video card that wont be able to be used..
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 7:48:21 PM

The chipset is not something on a processor, it is on the motherboard. LGA 775 is the socket type and yes, they are the same but that doesn't mean his chipset can handle all LGA 775 processors and all front side bus speeds that they might use.
As I said earlier he definitely will be able to use a card like the HD5670 and it will be a massive improvement over his 7300. His current processor will bottleneck the card in more the CPU intensive current games which isn't optimal but it is no reason to think he MUST upgrade the processor to use the card.
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 7:49:31 PM

yetbutno said:
thanks, also the bottlenecked card would just not last aslong as an unbottlenecked card correct?

No, bottlenecking will just limit the performance of your card on games that need more processing power until you upgrade it. It has nothing to do with the lifespan of any of your components.
July 13, 2010 7:56:40 PM

jyjjy said:
The chipset is not something on a processor, it is on the motherboard. LGA 775 is the socket type and yes, they are the same but that doesn't mean his chipset can handle all LGA 775 processors and all front side bus speeds that they might use.
As I said earlier he definitely will be able to use a card like the HD5670 and it will be a massive improvement over his 7300. His current processor will bottleneck the card in more the CPU intensive current games which isn't optimal but it is no reason to think he MUST upgrade the processor to use the card.


yes he will still be able to use the card.. but.. if he were to go just a little bit over his max of 200 bucks.. hed see sooo much more of an improvement than just an upgraded gpu.. and very good eye on the processor (major props).. i just REALLY want to see that processor upgraded.. :)  it would turn his pc from just being able to play the games he want to killing the fps on the games he wants to play.
July 13, 2010 7:59:30 PM

well, after what you jsut said, i think im goign to get a processor so i can own the fps on such games. the previously mentioned processor would that work on my motherboard?
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 8:00:34 PM

Researching your computer more I've noticed that the XPS 410 uses a BTX case. This case only allows for single bracket video cards so don't get the HIS card. The Sapphire card may fit but it may not. It is single bracket card but a dual slot cooler. Often the CPU cooling shroud in those cases will prevent block a dual slot coolers although if they are centralized on the card it will probably fit. I can't tell just from looking at it whether the Sapphire card will fit in there. To be safe I would recommend this single slot XFX card;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 13, 2010 8:17:46 PM

either card will do.. itll fit..
July 13, 2010 8:18:35 PM

yetbutno said:
well, after what you jsut said, i think im goign to get a processor so i can own the fps on such games. the previously mentioned processor would that work on my motherboard?


pleaasseeee get an updated processor.. trust me you wont regret it..
July 13, 2010 8:25:43 PM

Just save up and get a new computer. You really might as well just go all the way if you are going to replace a psu, cpu, ram, and graphics card.
July 13, 2010 8:28:47 PM

bertimus said:
Just save up and get a new computer. You really might as well just go all the way if you are going to replace a psu, cpu, ram, and graphics card.


i 2nd that.. itll cost more but you might as well
July 13, 2010 8:30:52 PM

naaaa... i dont second that.. you can always get the other stuff youd need later down the road and salvage the parts your getting now.. to do what your asking go ahead and go with the hardware mentioned above..
a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 8:33:32 PM

I 3rd it, also, don't buy a Dell, do it yourself!
July 13, 2010 8:36:30 PM

what processor should i get with my mother board though?
July 13, 2010 8:41:16 PM

If you make decisions based off what you are salvaging from your sub-par machine, and you just keep upgrading for the next year, you are going to end up with a "less-good" system than had you just saved up for a couple more months and started over.
July 13, 2010 8:45:16 PM

yetbutno said:
what processor should i get with my mother board though?


hontestly it looks like im going to have to agree with jyjjy on this one.. your motherboard only allows you to upgrade to an e6700 and it wouldnt be that far off from what you have now.. if you were going to.. id suggest in all honesty.. just get you the video card and start saving for a new system build.. you could salvage your video card and ram depending on your new motherboard.. so in all honesty it wouldnt make since to get the e6700... just start saving to get a new system build going.. AND PLEASE!!!! dont buy a dell.. build it yourself.. but the new video card should hold do for now..
July 13, 2010 8:53:08 PM

okay thanks
a b U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 8:55:58 PM

I cant believe everyone is saying buy a new processor an E6240, white its not a high end processor it will run those games just fine. Core 2's are solid chips. While I have a slightly better core 2 (E6750) I havent come close to max CPU utilization while playing games, my limiting factor is my 4870. I would say Get you self one of the ATi Card listed above and save money for a new computer down the road
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 9:17:15 PM

Your board can handle a quad core like the Q6600 as I said earlier. It would be a decent, if expensive upgrade.
Just getting the card for now and saving up to build yourself a new system is probably a better idea though. Once again I would recommend the single slot HD5670 to be certain it will fit in your case.
a c 376 U Graphics card
July 13, 2010 9:23:11 PM

Snipergod87 said:
Core 2's are solid chips. While I have a slightly better core 2 (E6750) I havent come close to max CPU utilization while playing games

Keep in mind your processor is clocked nearly 25% higher than his. Also from what you say I doubt you have been playing particularly CPU intensive games on your system and have been using a high resolution. That said his should be mostly capable if not ideal. If he could OC that would clear any problem right up but of course you can't OC on a Dell.
July 13, 2010 9:52:01 PM

damn you DELL!!!
July 14, 2010 2:12:41 AM

radeon hd 4350 is that good for me?
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